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i do not wish to offend anyone with this post. do any of you feel... ashamed of who you are?

Puhp said:
I appreciate the note, @Steven Raccoon ... I wouldn't go so far as to tell you to fuck off, partner *shrug* but maybe just a lil reminder to make sure you're not being as much of an asshole as they are being the idiot. New face or old hand around here, the outside world is a VERY incredibly unfriendly place for everyone in the zoo universe. Sorta nice that this place is 180° different than that.

Or should be.
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Very well said Puhp.
It's very nice to have a private platform here, with other like minded people who understand and can discuss things without judgement.
It makes a person who feels alienated feel like they are not so strange after all.
It's refreshing and uplifting.
You got it spot on for sure.
 
Goozeflzh said:
I am a 23 y/o transguy who have always been into girls.
I also happen to have a rather low sex drive, and I am very content with being single and I do not crave for any sort of intimacy. Especially not emotionally.
But at the same time, I have also always been into male dogs. Which is weird because I'm not into human males at all really. At least I don't think so. I consider myself straight. Seriously. I am so confused by this.

I do not live by myself at the moment, and I have only been with a dog yeaaaars ago, but ever since then I have had, uh, a craving. But I hate it. It makes me feel ashamed. I don't understand why. Is it the taboo of it all? What else could it be? I want to keep it behind closed doors, but internally acting out on it would make me feel so ashamed, even though I really want to act on it someday.

Does anyone else feel the same?
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Same here
 
Growing up in a religious community, I had to overcome the shame of sex with another human outside of marriage - an absolutely normal and accepted thing to do in a modern society. I'm not sure if my strict upbringing pushed me more towards the idea of sex with an animal (as nobody had ever mentioned it), or if I just have no shame left. Either way, I've never been given a good reason to feel ashamed of how I feel as long as no one is hurt by my actions.
 
It's hard not to feel ashamed when you are mentally living this double life! Having a partner or friend to confide into would make this so much easier.. it's just hard and unrealistic to expect it.
 
Goozeflzh said:
I am a 23 y/o transguy who have always been into girls.
I also happen to have a rather low sex drive, and I am very content with being single and I do not crave for any sort of intimacy. Especially not emotionally.
But at the same time, I have also always been into male dogs. Which is weird because I'm not into human males at all really. At least I don't think so. I consider myself straight. Seriously. I am so confused by this.

I do not live by myself at the moment, and I have only been with a dog yeaaaars ago, but ever since then I have had, uh, a craving. But I hate it. It makes me feel ashamed. I don't understand why. Is it the taboo of it all? What else could it be? I want to keep it behind closed doors, but internally acting out on it would make me feel so ashamed, even though I really want to act on it someday.

Does anyone else feel the same?
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You absolutely will feel it at first, I did. Some nights I’d throw up because the thought stressed me out. What would my family say? What would my friends and colleagues say? But ultimately if you keep it behind closed doors you feel .. better. Joining a community like this will help you to accept this part of you. Act on it, try it. You will feel guilt and shame after, but after a few times and tries it’ll ease and feel so much better. Its helped me since i’ve been here
 
rosethedoglover2000 said:
You absolutely will feel it at first, I did. Some nights I’d throw up because the thought stressed me out. What would my family say? What would my friends and colleagues say? But ultimately if you keep it behind closed doors you feel .. better. Joining a community like this will help you to accept this part of you. Act on it, try it. You will feel guilt and shame after, but after a few times and tries it’ll ease and feel so much better. Its helped me since i’ve been here
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I can totally relate to your words.. it just has to be accepted and it is so much of a mental struggle to get to that point
 
For me, as a guy with a high sex drive and even close to hypersexuality, the want and desire for an animal companion as WELL as a human is a hard thing to deal with.

The stigma that's associated with "us" will push so many away. This "stigma" that I can't love animals in a different way breeds shame in my heart because I knew if anyone not of the same kind of mentality found out, shame floods in and my reputation is tarnished.

It's fickle. If you can find someone who is into it (don't go asking or telling random people) or can bear the shame of the double life in secret, there isn't any reason you can't do what you're desiring to do.
 
Goozeflzh said:
I am a 23 y/o transguy who have always been into girls.
I also happen to have a rather low sex drive, and I am very content with being single and I do not crave for any sort of intimacy. Especially not emotionally.
But at the same time, I have also always been into male dogs. Which is weird because I'm not into human males at all really. At least I don't think so. I consider myself straight. Seriously. I am so confused by this.

I do not live by myself at the moment, and I have only been with a dog yeaaaars ago, but ever since then I have had, uh, a craving. But I hate it. It makes me feel ashamed. I don't understand why. Is it the taboo of it all? What else could it be? I want to keep it behind closed doors, but internally acting out on it would make me feel so ashamed, even though I really want to act on it someday.

Does anyone else feel the same?
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No I don't feel ashamed, just wish I could find people of same interests closer to me
 
Goozeflzh said:
I am a 23 y/o transguy who have always been into girls.
I also happen to have a rather low sex drive, and I am very content with being single and I do not crave for any sort of intimacy. Especially not emotionally.
But at the same time, I have also always been into male dogs. Which is weird because I'm not into human males at all really. At least I don't think so. I consider myself straight. Seriously. I am so confused by this.

I do not live by myself at the moment, and I have only been with a dog yeaaaars ago, but ever since then I have had, uh, a craving. But I hate it. It makes me feel ashamed. I don't understand why. Is it the taboo of it all? What else could it be? I want to keep it behind closed doors, but internally acting out on it would make me feel so ashamed, even though I really want to act on it someday.

Does anyone else feel the same?
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Not sure if I've really responded to your specific concern, and I'm in the middle of getting ready for work so I'll just say this briefly, and I'm really kind of echoing the sentiment of many queer activists and people I've met - not to say you have to take on any labels whatsoever - because really sexuality is fluid and I don't think this is anything you need to be ashamed of. I was rereading your comment and had the urge to reassure you that there's really nothing wrong with that. There's plenty of gay men that seem to inexplicably be attracted to female animals. To me it's just a wonderful curiosity so be curious and kind to yourself. It's just the other side of the coin really if you think about it.
 
As long as i dont hurt or force animals i dont harm them. That would be shameful in my eyes. As long as i dont lie to my partnwr about it i dont have to be ashamed , he knows about it , got me into it a long time ago in fact and enjoys seeing me like that. The religious part i couldnt care less about cathlic priest molesting boys is abd such creatures are protected by there church so chrches in general lost all credibility and reason of exiating in my eyes.
Where i live in 2001 a gay teen was beaten to death by 2 cops and the media had a good chuckle about it so ofc i am hiding i see hear and feel therr hate daily but ill never be ashamed wouldnt give them the satisfaction
 
Goozeflzh said:
I am a 23 y/o transguy who have always been into girls.
I also happen to have a rather low sex drive, and I am very content with being single and I do not crave for any sort of intimacy. Especially not emotionally.
But at the same time, I have also always been into male dogs. Which is weird because I'm not into human males at all really. At least I don't think so. I consider myself straight. Seriously. I am so confused by this.

I do not live by myself at the moment, and I have only been with a dog yeaaaars ago, but ever since then I have had, uh, a craving. But I hate it. It makes me feel ashamed. I don't understand why. Is it the taboo of it all? What else could it be? I want to keep it behind closed doors, but internally acting out on it would make me feel so ashamed, even though I really want to act on it someday.

Does anyone else feel the same?
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Sometimes yeah, but also other times not at all. I do hope that you stop feeling ashamed very soon.
 
I can only think of two instances in my whole life I truly felt shame from my zoophilia, at the times I didn't even know the word. The majority of my life has been spent ignoring it. When I wanted a pet I would always get a cat. Because, if I got a dog. . . I lived with the thought that if I didn't feed it it would go away.

I've been able to have three zoo relationships. All where sexual, two had an emotional connection, and one lasted a few years.
Today, I feel no shame.
 
forest said:
i'm also a trans man, my feelings about it are the same about me being trans and pansexual and polyamourous, very proud but wary of those who hate me for it. i used to push my zoophilia down, i thought it made me a bad person. but i understand that non-humans are people, with the ability to consent to and desire sex. i feel no shame for it. i'm into most animals (all mammals including humans, reptiles, birds, some fish and insects) regardless of sex or gender. if i was someone who really cared what society had to say about me, i wouldn't be out as trans
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I just gotta say you are awesome! Unlike you I at times still have doubt and feelings of guilt simply because of the folks around me and the way they feel about zoo and the things they have said. I am also very pansexual and have moments of hey I just wanna let lose and feel pretty but again I am very closeted because o folks around me and knowing some are very phobic about certain things. It pisses me off so much that we still have these kinds of things going on where people have to hide who they are. I am proud of you and your ability to just be who and what you are.
 
forest said:
i'm also a trans man, my feelings about it are the same about me being trans and pansexual and polyamourous, very proud but wary of those who hate me for it. i used to push my zoophilia down, i thought it made me a bad person. but i understand that non-humans are people, with the ability to consent to and desire sex. i feel no shame for it. i'm into most animals (all mammals including humans, reptiles, birds, some fish and insects) regardless of sex or gender. if i was someone who really cared what society had to say about me, i wouldn't be out as trans
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I am so happy that you can live your truth, be proud of who you are, and comfortable with who you love. I'm just sorry that our society has decided that, what you do with your free time has become a debate worthy of legislation based completely on fear and loathing. I find myself in the same boat of being front facing for showing our companions are capable of, and often enthusiastically eager for sex. I just hope that someday, that our species gets more comfortable with the fact that sex is a natural and beautiful form of expression and we stop stamping down on those who want it different. ^_^
 
forest said:
i'm also a trans man, my feelings about it are the same about me being trans and pansexual and polyamourous, very proud but wary of those who hate me for it. i used to push my zoophilia down, i thought it made me a bad person. but i understand that non-humans are people, with the ability to consent to and desire sex. i feel no shame for it. i'm into most animals (all mammals including humans, reptiles, birds, some fish and insects) regardless of sex or gender. if i was someone who really cared what society had to say about me, i wouldn't be out as trans
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It's only been within the last 4 or 5 months that I found this site and saw that there are other people like me out there that I can talk to. I've been this way since as long as I can remember and always kept it very deep down and hidden. Scared that it'll come out in a drunken moment or something, but it's been really great seeing others here who feel similar things to me. I admire you for your strength. Things are scary for me as a cis gay/pan man and I recognize that I don't face obstacles that my trans community does. So, Im really happy to hear that you're doing well and are strong. So many reasons to feel proud of our community here. :)
 
i hate me, but not because of this thing i do, because well, because im a person, i guess, a human and thats the worst thing i think a thing can be i think
 
anhinga said:
i hate me, but not because of this thing i do, because well, because im a person, i guess, a human and thats the worst thing i think a thing can be i think
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i also suffer severe depression and i have no good peoplke in my life that care for me either... isolation can drive a person absolutely out of mind, its awful to realize thaty i'm probably never going to be "okay" or "loved", i just look forward to my final moment
 
anhinga said:
i also suffer severe depression and i have no good peoplke in my life that care for me either... isolation can drive a person absolutely out of mind, its awful to realize thaty i'm probably never going to be "okay" or "loved", i just look forward to my final moment
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You are speaking here, so you are not isolated ...
 
Goozeflzh said:
I am a 23 y/o transguy who have always been into girls.
I also happen to have a rather low sex drive, and I am very content with being single and I do not crave for any sort of intimacy. Especially not emotionally.
But at the same time, I have also always been into male dogs. Which is weird because I'm not into human males at all really. At least I don't think so. I consider myself straight. Seriously. I am so confused by this.

I do not live by myself at the moment, and I have only been with a dog yeaaaars ago, but ever since then I have had, uh, a craving. But I hate it. It makes me feel ashamed. I don't understand why. Is it the taboo of it all? What else could it be? I want to keep it behind closed doors, but internally acting out on it would make me feel so ashamed, even though I really want to act on it someday.

Does anyone else feel the same?
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Yes bc I love animals so much and there well being!!! I view pleasuring them and myself as a weird pay it forward bc of how the world treats them. And my partner he doesn’t know or deserves too hahah I almost feel like it’s SA :( and that makes me sad too but like I said I get through it as pleasuring them and bc the deserve wayyyyy more from this world
 
Sometimes I wish I could have spoken up for someone who was being ostracised, teased or attacked by people using the subject of zoophilia or attraction to animals to belittle them, sometimes I feel ashamed that I have denied my own feelings and even used disgust as a deflection, it's started to dawn on me that my shame is driven by others displaying their own prejudice against zoos who very well could have been doing the same thing to deflect, I'm ashamed of the projection of my insecurities about being outted as a degenerate might have feed into others denial and repression of their own thoughts, it's a vicious cycle to get caught into and helps no one
 
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