i do not wish to offend anyone with this post. do any of you feel... ashamed of who you are?
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There is a difference between keeping your love life private because of shame,
and doing it to avoid torment, judgement,
and persecution.
It takes a certain kind of very open minded person to be able to understand this,
but believe it or not,
it is much more common than most people know, or will admit.
These are just regular people.
Some are very successful.
They go to work every day, just like everyone else.
The people around them never even suspect,
and see no signs.
For REAL beast lovers,
it is not a relation that is based on just sex.
The establishment states that it is only the most abominable form of sexual perversion,
and yet a higher percentage of the population than they will reveal, have chosen an alternative life, with an alternative life lover.
The establishment says a canine is being abused and forced.
It says that a canine cannot consent.
I have some news for all you narrow minded propaganda preachers and censor artists.
The owners purchase their animals as pets.
They take good care of them,
show them love, teach them rules,
let them sleep in their bed,
and that animal loves them deeply.
and then.....when the time comes.....
the sex is THEIR idea.
So the reality of the situation is such,
that it's up to YOU to consent.
That is an undeniable truth that cannot be disputed.
No matter what the mainstream claims.
If the owner has an animal that truly loves them,
and this owner chooses to consent to this animals sexual desires for them,
I see absolutely nothing wrong with this choice.
Some women say they will never have another man again.
They don't fight and argue,
they can communicate surprisingly well,
and both are perfectly happy in life.
They also say that a man could never be equal in love, or sex.
If you know what goes on when he's inside her,
it's easy to understand why.
The harshest condemnation will come from those who have secretly fantasized about doing it just one time, with sex being the only objective.
Only being deeply jealous of someone who has made the choice to live it in reality, and is happier in life because of it.
Try to look at it in a different perspective.
You' re not keeping your feelings hidden because of shame.
You do it to keep from being shunned, tormented, and stoned to death by a society that doesn't understand.
In 1941, Jewish people hid if they could.
In 1950, being gay was a dark underworld.
In 1960, being trans was nearly non-existent.
Society always rejects unconformity.
You're not any more abnormal than any of the millions of people who also have the same feelings.
They just dont advertise.
But I would say that you are much different than those who engage in the so-called "taboo" sins, strictly for sexual gratification only, that they keep hidden so well.
At least it sounds like you are not just a fetishist.
It sounds like all you need to do is accept it about yourself, and embrace it.
Live a life that makes YOU and your lover happy.
Not everyone else.
Happiness always breeds contempt from those who don't have it.
Haters please try to keep your envy in check.
If I had a wife,
I would rather have her taking my Danes knot during the day while I'm at work, than having her take turns with my friends and neighbors.
Wouldn't have to worry about a paternity test,
and wouldn't have to worry about an STD.
Just to clarify,
I hate using the term "owner",
but I use this term for literary purposes,
just to clarity character identification.
Best of luck to you.
Be proud....inside.
But be careful....everywhere else.
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and doing it to avoid torment, judgement,
and persecution.
It takes a certain kind of very open minded person to be able to understand this,
but believe it or not,
it is much more common than most people know, or will admit.
These are just regular people.
Some are very successful.
They go to work every day, just like everyone else.
The people around them never even suspect,
and see no signs.
For REAL beast lovers,
it is not a relation that is based on just sex.
The establishment states that it is only the most abominable form of sexual perversion,
and yet a higher percentage of the population than they will reveal, have chosen an alternative life, with an alternative life lover.
The establishment says a canine is being abused and forced.
It says that a canine cannot consent.
I have some news for all you narrow minded propaganda preachers and censor artists.
The owners purchase their animals as pets.
They take good care of them,
show them love, teach them rules,
let them sleep in their bed,
and that animal loves them deeply.
and then.....when the time comes.....
the sex is THEIR idea.
So the reality of the situation is such,
that it's up to YOU to consent.
That is an undeniable truth that cannot be disputed.
No matter what the mainstream claims.
If the owner has an animal that truly loves them,
and this owner chooses to consent to this animals sexual desires for them,
I see absolutely nothing wrong with this choice.
Some women say they will never have another man again.
They don't fight and argue,
they can communicate surprisingly well,
and both are perfectly happy in life.
They also say that a man could never be equal in love, or sex.
If you know what goes on when he's inside her,
it's easy to understand why.
The harshest condemnation will come from those who have secretly fantasized about doing it just one time, with sex being the only objective.
Only being deeply jealous of someone who has made the choice to live it in reality, and is happier in life because of it.
Try to look at it in a different perspective.
You' re not keeping your feelings hidden because of shame.
You do it to keep from being shunned, tormented, and stoned to death by a society that doesn't understand.
In 1941, Jewish people hid if they could.
In 1950, being gay was a dark underworld.
In 1960, being trans was nearly non-existent.
Society always rejects unconformity.
You're not any more abnormal than any of the millions of people who also have the same feelings.
They just dont advertise.
But I would say that you are much different than those who engage in the so-called "taboo" sins, strictly for sexual gratification only, that they keep hidden so well.
At least it sounds like you are not just a fetishist.
It sounds like all you need to do is accept it about yourself, and embrace it.
Live a life that makes YOU and your lover happy.
Not everyone else.
Happiness always breeds contempt from those who don't have it.
Haters please try to keep your envy in check.
If I had a wife,
I would rather have her taking my Danes knot during the day while I'm at work, than having her take turns with my friends and neighbors.
Wouldn't have to worry about a paternity test,
and wouldn't have to worry about an STD.
Just to clarify,
I hate using the term "owner",
but I use this term for literary purposes,
just to clarity character identification.
Best of luck to you.
Be proud....inside.
But be careful....everywhere else.
? ?
Atta boy JazzyPaws.
Well written.
You got this....
Well written.
You got this....
Very well said Puhp.
It's very nice to have a private platform here, with other like minded people who understand and can discuss things without judgement.
It makes a person who feels alienated feel like they are not so strange after all.
It's refreshing and uplifting.
You got it spot on for sure.
nang95
Tourist
Same here
Growing up in a religious community, I had to overcome the shame of sex with another human outside of marriage - an absolutely normal and accepted thing to do in a modern society. I'm not sure if my strict upbringing pushed me more towards the idea of sex with an animal (as nobody had ever mentioned it), or if I just have no shame left. Either way, I've never been given a good reason to feel ashamed of how I feel as long as no one is hurt by my actions.
heartofzoo
Tourist
It's hard not to feel ashamed when you are mentally living this double life! Having a partner or friend to confide into would make this so much easier.. it's just hard and unrealistic to expect it.
rosethedoglover2000
Tourist
You absolutely will feel it at first, I did. Some nights I’d throw up because the thought stressed me out. What would my family say? What would my friends and colleagues say? But ultimately if you keep it behind closed doors you feel .. better. Joining a community like this will help you to accept this part of you. Act on it, try it. You will feel guilt and shame after, but after a few times and tries it’ll ease and feel so much better. Its helped me since i’ve been here
heartofzoo
Tourist
I can totally relate to your words.. it just has to be accepted and it is so much of a mental struggle to get to that point
jhallec3875
Citizen of ZooVille
For me, as a guy with a high sex drive and even close to hypersexuality, the want and desire for an animal companion as WELL as a human is a hard thing to deal with.
The stigma that's associated with "us" will push so many away. This "stigma" that I can't love animals in a different way breeds shame in my heart because I knew if anyone not of the same kind of mentality found out, shame floods in and my reputation is tarnished.
It's fickle. If you can find someone who is into it (don't go asking or telling random people) or can bear the shame of the double life in secret, there isn't any reason you can't do what you're desiring to do.
The stigma that's associated with "us" will push so many away. This "stigma" that I can't love animals in a different way breeds shame in my heart because I knew if anyone not of the same kind of mentality found out, shame floods in and my reputation is tarnished.
It's fickle. If you can find someone who is into it (don't go asking or telling random people) or can bear the shame of the double life in secret, there isn't any reason you can't do what you're desiring to do.
BangWithHands
Tourist
No I don't feel ashamed, just wish I could find people of same interests closer to me
Danbeast
Tourist
Not sure if I've really responded to your specific concern, and I'm in the middle of getting ready for work so I'll just say this briefly, and I'm really kind of echoing the sentiment of many queer activists and people I've met - not to say you have to take on any labels whatsoever - because really sexuality is fluid and I don't think this is anything you need to be ashamed of. I was rereading your comment and had the urge to reassure you that there's really nothing wrong with that. There's plenty of gay men that seem to inexplicably be attracted to female animals. To me it's just a wonderful curiosity so be curious and kind to yourself. It's just the other side of the coin really if you think about it.
dogsexromania
Citizen of Zooville
As long as i dont hurt or force animals i dont harm them. That would be shameful in my eyes. As long as i dont lie to my partnwr about it i dont have to be ashamed , he knows about it , got me into it a long time ago in fact and enjoys seeing me like that. The religious part i couldnt care less about cathlic priest molesting boys is abd such creatures are protected by there church so chrches in general lost all credibility and reason of exiating in my eyes.
Where i live in 2001 a gay teen was beaten to death by 2 cops and the media had a good chuckle about it so ofc i am hiding i see hear and feel therr hate daily but ill never be ashamed wouldnt give them the satisfaction
Where i live in 2001 a gay teen was beaten to death by 2 cops and the media had a good chuckle about it so ofc i am hiding i see hear and feel therr hate daily but ill never be ashamed wouldnt give them the satisfaction
Redsy-Reddy
Tourist
Sometimes yeah, but also other times not at all. I do hope that you stop feeling ashamed very soon.
eye_spy_you
Lurker
I can only think of two instances in my whole life I truly felt shame from my zoophilia, at the times I didn't even know the word. The majority of my life has been spent ignoring it. When I wanted a pet I would always get a cat. Because, if I got a dog. . . I lived with the thought that if I didn't feed it it would go away.
I've been able to have three zoo relationships. All where sexual, two had an emotional connection, and one lasted a few years.
Today, I feel no shame.
I've been able to have three zoo relationships. All where sexual, two had an emotional connection, and one lasted a few years.
Today, I feel no shame.
BalalaikaHucow
Tourist
Not at all
shipfaced76
Tourist
Not in the least little bit. Why should I? It's my life, my kinks.
valleyyote
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
I just gotta say you are awesome! Unlike you I at times still have doubt and feelings of guilt simply because of the folks around me and the way they feel about zoo and the things they have said. I am also very pansexual and have moments of hey I just wanna let lose and feel pretty but again I am very closeted because o folks around me and knowing some are very phobic about certain things. It pisses me off so much that we still have these kinds of things going on where people have to hide who they are. I am proud of you and your ability to just be who and what you are.
I am so happy that you can live your truth, be proud of who you are, and comfortable with who you love. I'm just sorry that our society has decided that, what you do with your free time has become a debate worthy of legislation based completely on fear and loathing. I find myself in the same boat of being front facing for showing our companions are capable of, and often enthusiastically eager for sex. I just hope that someday, that our species gets more comfortable with the fact that sex is a natural and beautiful form of expression and we stop stamping down on those who want it different. ^_^
plbest566
Tourist
It's only been within the last 4 or 5 months that I found this site and saw that there are other people like me out there that I can talk to. I've been this way since as long as I can remember and always kept it very deep down and hidden. Scared that it'll come out in a drunken moment or something, but it's been really great seeing others here who feel similar things to me. I admire you for your strength. Things are scary for me as a cis gay/pan man and I recognize that I don't face obstacles that my trans community does. So, Im really happy to hear that you're doing well and are strong. So many reasons to feel proud of our community here.
anhinga
Tourist
i also suffer severe depression and i have no good peoplke in my life that care for me either... isolation can drive a person absolutely out of mind, its awful to realize thaty i'm probably never going to be "okay" or "loved", i just look forward to my final moment
You are speaking here, so you are not isolated ...
nikk13
Tourist
Haha yeah telling a pro you fuck animals is gonna get you a couple places
nikk13
Tourist
Yes bc I love animals so much and there well being!!! I view pleasuring them and myself as a weird pay it forward bc of how the world treats them. And my partner he doesn’t know or deserves too hahah I almost feel like it’s SA
and that makes me sad too but like I said I get through it as pleasuring them and bc the deserve wayyyyy more from this world
sy_renscall
Lurker
Gone through a phase of shame when I was younger and didn't understand why I felt this way. But now? Who TF cares lol the world's on fire, live your best life
KnottyLplates
Zooville Settler
I think everyone goes thru the same things the shame feeling dirty I still get it sometimes now but it passes and I won't change the feeling will alway come and go
Same