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How long do you think that it will take before zoosexaulity starts to become as accepted as other sexualities?

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  • 5 years

    Votes: 39 5.5%
  • 2 years

    Votes: 18 2.5%
  • 10+ years

    Votes: 592 83.6%
  • 7 years

    Votes: 19 2.7%
  • Never

    Votes: 40 5.6%

  • Total voters
    708
Zoo is illegal in most places. If it were to become accepted and normalized, then it will create a "slippery slope" that will lead to people with other illegal/taboo kinks and fetishes wanting there's to be accepted and normalized as well. Then who decides where to draw the line on what is "right" and "wrong" ?
They called that "The Domino Theory" for a lot of years. Whether or not its true matters little. What matters is how people see it, and how they react when it comes onto their radar. There will be those who see legalization of it as a major invitation to other problems. And they could even be right.
 
In the UK most acts of bestiality were legalised in 2013 because they recognised it was only severely criminalised for "moral reasons". Legal to suck off a horse now, so that's some progress. :D
And yet teaching your dog to do a funny trick with it's paw is illegal.
 
Like most I put 10 plus years. Public opinion needs to change, or rather public perception needs to change. Most people are pretty ignorant about
this sex, and think only 1 in a million do it. Plus many sincerely believe dogs are 'forced' to do it. That somehow a woman grabs a dog's penis, masturbates it, and then forces it into her vagina (the zoo porno of 20 years ago gave that impression - with dog dildo vids). Whlle female dogs get raped by sex crazy men !
I may be too optimist, but there seems to be slow change in public perception in our favour. More and more bestiality jokes in mainstream entertainment, bestiality sex scandals involving likeable and normal people, and evidence to the public opinion that zoo people treat their dogs lovingly and well, unlike many non zoo people who really treat badly their dogs.
But still in this Trumpian times, with right wing populists running wild also in Europe, such a issue is easy picked up by populists to argue how 'sick' our society is, and only their poltical party will put an end to it.
 
Like most I put 10 plus years. Public opinion needs to change, or rather public perception needs to change. Most people are pretty ignorant about
this sex, and think only 1 in a million do it. Plus many sincerely believe dogs are 'forced' to do it. That somehow a woman grabs a dog's penis, masturbates it, and then forces it into her vagina (the zoo porno of 20 years ago gave that impression - with dog dildo vids). Whlle female dogs get raped by sex crazy men !
I may be too optimist, but there seems to be slow change in public perception in our favour. More and more bestiality jokes in mainstream entertainment, bestiality sex scandals involving likeable and normal people, and evidence to the public opinion that zoo people treat their dogs lovingly and well, unlike many non zoo people who really treat badly their dogs.
But still in this Trumpian times, with right wing populists running wild also in Europe, such a issue is easy picked up by populists to argue how 'sick' our society is, and only their poltical party will put an end to it.
If you honestly believe it's just the right wing that despises us, you're living in a bubble
 
If you honestly believe it's just the right wing that despises us, you're living in a bubble
True, also animal rights groups (generally lefty), ...but right wing political groups tend to be more obsessed about sexual morals...at least here in Europe ! For example, a right wing idiot in Spain said the reason why the Spanish countryside is depopulating is because young people only care about ' casual sex' , and should instead, only think about making babies.
 
True, also animal rights groups (generally lefty), ...but right wing political groups tend to be more obsessed about sexual morals...at least here in Europe ! For example, a right wing idiot in Spain said the reason why the Spanish countryside is depopulating is because young people only care about ' casual sex' , and should instead, only think about making babies.
There is merit in that. No one likes the idea or at least one side over the other anyway, of the nuclear family. You can’t exactly hold down a house and pass generational ideas for long if you can’t keep track or at least pin down some sort of structure day to day family wise. Promiscuous nature is a big reason I don’t generally take part too much in the gay community. Not exactly what the nuclear family is. However it could and dose work with some self control.
 
There is merit in that. No one likes the idea or at least one side over the other anyway, of the nuclear family. You can’t exactly hold down a house and pass generational ideas for long if you can’t keep track or at least pin down some sort of structure day to day family wise. Promiscuous nature is a big reason I don’t generally take part too much in the gay community. Not exactly what the nuclear family is. However it could and dose work with some self control.
The reason why all countrysides are depopulating is lack of..............jobs, jobs, jobs !!
 
If we hang all the violent extremists maybe we can get acceptance alot quicker.

Those types willing to go outta their way to make others hell just cloud the views of those who are neutral.

It turns into one big guerilla warfare scene. You never know who's your enemy.

The only reason why it's not accepted because it's like a Martin Luther King situation where somebody of importance gets assassinated politically or personally before they rise to fame
 
If we hang all the violent extremists maybe we can get acceptance alot quicker.

Those types willing to go outta their way to make others hell just cloud the views of those who are neutral.

It turns into one big guerilla warfare scene. You never know who's your enemy.

The only reason why it's not accepted because it's like a Martin Luther King situation where somebody of importance gets assassinated politically or personally before they rise to fame
Who exactly is political and or famous in the zoo community to even have a shot in hell? The public don’t even know our so called activists among the movement. Hell, most of us here don’t know them at all.
 
Who exactly is political and or famous in the zoo community to even have a shot in hell? The public don’t even know our so called activists among the movement. Hell, most of us here don’t know them at all.
fortunately, that is the case.
 
Who exactly is political and or famous in the zoo community to even have a shot in hell? The public don’t even know our so called activists among the movement. Hell, most of us here don’t know them at all.
Exactly... Because they end up criminalized or killed before their rise to fame. If only there's a way to do it to those extremists themselves. By functioning within the law until they strike they have a invisible shield.

Think of a guy scouting a fence before striking a household. They have a lot more freedom as well as leeway then a zoo type representative does in terms of information as well as tools at their disposal it makes me sick.

All they need is public discussed or dirt on the individual and they win legally speaking and then now it produced them as a Target while the attacker is anonymous and a bonus points if they are known they are congratulated for doing such a thing.

Now let's go the other route if they were assassinated physically it's just 3 to 5 steps back on this movement as a zoo group due to loss of leadership.
 
It’s rare we agree. But the first rule to being a donor or a fallower of a movement will always be “know your chairman”.
Nobody else knew she was a pro MAP though. So that's lumping everyone together with one person it's a fallacy people do.

Not even I knew that
 
It’s rare we agree. But the first rule to being a donor or a fallower of a movement will always be “know your chairman”.
And 2ndly you have the mindset of a normie sheep. This is literally typical crowd behavior exhibited from USA in all rights/respects.
 
Nobody else knew she was a pro MAP though. So that's lumping everyone together with one person it's a fallacy people do.

Not even I knew that
Still referring to current chairman of today. Not many know them. Yet give digital currency to them. It’s like buying a car without even seeing it.
 
And 2ndly you have the mindset of a normie sheep. This is literally typical crowd behavior exhibited from USA in all rights/respects.
Normie sheep? I’m far from normal and I’m sure as hell not a sheep. Your still the mouthpiece of anyone who has the slightest similarities to your own. You flip on the dime time and time again on various ideologies. And yes, I perpetuate constitutional values. Got a problem with that? Don’t forget your right to privacy is do to paper written 200 years ago. All of us would be fucked without such.
 
Normie sheep? I’m far from normal and I’m sure as hell not a sheep. Your still the mouthpiece of anyone who has the slightest similarities to your own. You flip on the dime time and time again on various ideologies. And yes, I perpetuate constitutional values. Got a problem with that? Don’t forget your right to privacy is do to paper written 200 years ago. All of us would be fucked without such.
I still don't know why you bother.
It's very evident he's beyond retarded and as mentally unstable as one can possibly get.
 
Still referring to current chairman of today. Not many know them. Yet give digital currency to them. It’s like buying a car without even seeing it.
Giving faith is what we are doing. Why else do people believe in the Bible. It's a idea that keeps up hopeful
 
Normie sheep? I’m far from normal and I’m sure as hell not a sheep. Your still the mouthpiece of anyone who has the slightest similarities to your own. You flip on the dime time and time again on various ideologies. And yes, I perpetuate constitutional values. Got a problem with that? Don’t forget your right to privacy is do to paper written 200 years ago. All of us would be fucked without such.
200 years that's outdated that also turns rights into privileges also.

Hell even they say it
 

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200 years that's outdated that also turns rights into privileges also.

Hell even they say it
No shit.😑 what do you think I’ve been fighting for the last 11 years? But background check are something I can get behind. 4473s are as far as I’m willing to go to keep the idiots and those with Ill internet from having them. Your state is quite good at turning you into cotton while turning out the bottom 6th worst unemployment rates making it next to impossible to practice any rights outside from being an oasis for abortion.
 
No shit.😑 what do you think I’ve been fighting for the last 11 years? But background check are something I can get behind. 4473s are as far as I’m willing to go to keep the idiots and those with Ill internet from having them. Your state is quite good at turning you into cotton while turning out the bottom 6th worst unemployment rates making it next to impossible to practice any rights outside from being an oasis for abortion.
Again though rights are absolute or they might as well be banned. It's unfortunate ALL felons are excluded because of a technical definition of a Year in prison equals a felony regardless if it's truly violent/malicious.

The definition should be reworked to a total of 5 to 10 years equals a felony in accumulation.
 
Well, it wuold have to start with movements, education and publicity. Nameful outings.
BUT: The Pressure would be huge, the punishments severe, the battles hard and bloody and sacrifices plenty.
For this change to happen, our community would have to unionise, stand together and help one another. Someone would have to take the piss, the blows and the prison times.
I dont see THAT happen anytime soon.
 
Well, it wuold have to start with movements, education and publicity. Nameful outings.
BUT: The Pressure would be huge, the punishments severe, the battles hard and bloody and sacrifices plenty.
For this change to happen, our community would have to unionise, stand together and help one another. Someone would have to take the piss, the blows and the prison times.
I dont see THAT happen anytime soon.
Yes, well. The thing is.... what for?
Gay people were fighting for legal rights as couple, I can get that. The rest, parades and pride days they are mostly ashamed of.

In our case, I do not want a zoo parade day, I am not asking to legally marry my dog or grant him rights. I don't want to fuck my Mayor.... er... mare in Main Street in front of the Council, and would actually be ashamed if someone did...

What us there to win?

Do not get me wrong here. IF someone is made public, will be good raising his/her head and making a point there was nothing wrong in what happened and defending consent but... willingly expose ourselves has never brought but more troubles.
 
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