By definition it isn't murder.
Murder is when you take a life without a valid reason to take it. If a person didn't had a valid reason to kill an animal, then that is murder. I'm calling murder murder. I'm not calling the killing of an animal in self defense, murder, nor calling killing an animal for survival to eat them murder.
Gays get murdered for being gay in countries where it is illegal to be gay, they put them to death, it is still murder even if the country have it as legal. Murder is murder, legal murder of gays is still murder. Legal murder of animals is still murder. Understood?
And second, this weird leap from killing to raping. I do not rape my food ever, folks. I doubt many people here do. "You will kill it; therefore, you will rape it."
It is no a weird leap, that person has made it clear in comments that he enjoy animal suffering and being mmurdered just so that he can eat them, he even gloat about it. If he enjoys animals being murdered to eat them, what makes you think that he won't enjoy raping them to get sexual pleasure?
I do not know why you don't understand this. You love animals, but you don't get this? Your dog understands this, but you don't get it?
I don't understand what? My dog understand whats?
Talk about animal abuse -- To own a hunting dog and not take it him/her hunting, now that's ABUSE!
Fact: Animal abuse is defined as to cause unnecessary distress, harm or death to an animal. Or to put the animal in an significant and unnecessary risk of harm or death. (This is know as animal neglect)
How does "not taking a hunting dog to hunt" = Animal abuse?
To me, it seem that you are calling a non-abuse behabior as abuse. AKA you are misusing the term. It is not abuse to not take them hunting.
If not for my dogs, I probably would not hunt pheasants or rabbits anymore. If not for my boys, I would not hunt deer. (I'd still eat burgers, though).
So, you are blaming your dogs for sport hunting? (aka animal abuse for fun/sport) Why do you make this invalid excuse? You abuse animals because you want to, not because your dogs make you do it. At least be a man and accept responsibility of your actions.
You believe you understand animals, yet you don't understand that you are a predator? You completely baffle me. You are not a sheep nor deer nor cow nor horse. You are a human being, an apex predator.
Humans are scientifically classified in the food chain right next to anchovies, nowhere near the apex predators. It is a fact that humans are not nowhere near apex predator. You thinking that humans are an apex predators is a wishful thinking fallacy. You are delusional.
I understand animals and I understand facts, something you clearly can't do, as shown by your many delusional beliefs.
You value life. But so do I. Death is part of life.
Again, more delusional thoughts... you murder animals for sport/fun and delude yourself that you are doing it because you value their lives... what other delusions do you have? Do you perhaps think that rape is equal to pleasuring animals?
But when someone says irresponsibly and cheaply that *because* I am a hunter, because I am an omnivore, because I eat meat -- I am a rapist?
Possible rapist. People who don't care about murdering others, have little restrain in doing other crimes like rape. If you can delude yourself that animal murder for sport/fun is Ok, what stops you from deluding yourself that animal rape is OK?
How do you keep attempting such an inductive leap without hurting yourself?
Again, if a person is OK with animal abuse/murder, to the point of ENJOYING IT. It is not farfetched to think that they may also enjoy animal rape. As if they don't give a fuck about murdering animals, why would they give a fuck about animal rape?
Do you have a problem with animals being raped? Yes or NO? It would be highly hypocritical if you have a problem with rape but at the same time being totally in favor of animal murder. As murder is far much worse of a crime than rape.
Or let's go back to the OP's concern that vegans are going to cost us, eventually, our right to own companion animals.
Thing is, assuming "worst case scenario" only carnivore animals would be forbidden as being pets. You could still own dogs and rabbits if you like, as any omnivore or vegetarian pet can still eat vegan. The problem with having a carnivore pet, is that you must murder animals to feed that pet and that would go against vegan ideals.
As a vegan, I don't want some one having the right to own a python as a pet, is not fair to the cats, dogs, chickens, etc that are murdered to feed to the python. Why do they have to be murdered just because some loser wants to have a pet python?
Also, to make it worse, some people live feed their pythons.
The vile video, entitled Python Christmas, shows a man in his 20s placing the kitten called Jasmine on a bed where a Burmese python lurks under a pillow. It was posted from an account in Islington, north London.
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We vegans call it murder and animal abuse, people like you and them call it "mother nature" or "giving value to their lives" but lets face it, it is in the end animal abuse, murder. You and them calling it by any other name won't change the reality.