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How rare are girls that are into this ...

I actually have to say I think it is more common then you think. i believe there are million of women active including in conservative places like the middle east (i was once in the facebook account of observing muslim woman who was active with her dog)

I recall there was a nice little video from Indonesia of a Muslim woman having sex with her dog out in the woods posted on Beast Forum back in the day.
 
id say in place where people are more liberal then it is more common and in conservative places it is in small amount but still happening.
I suppose there is not much difference. I think the conservative ones just hiding it strictly not being shamed in society.
 
Honestly I find that there are actually a lot of girls curious about it. The real question is, how are you trying to meet these girls? Are you expecting them to advertise it to you or are you bringing it up to the girl. When I'm interested in a girl I'm either very upfront about my sexual tastes and kinks, or I make comments in a way that it could be a joke or might not be a joke and judge their reaction. But, I've found the upfront approach works a lot better. If you're on a fetish site looking you have to be careful because there are A LOT of kink shamers out there and they will do their best to destroy you on the sites. But I've always posted dog knot and bad dragon toys and went from there. Often times I'll find someone into my other kinks and then start talking limits as well and bring it up that way. Some sites let people put up the human sex map, that's a great way to find out as well. But I always make sure I approach the subject first, so that if she is interested then she doesn't have to have the insecurity of hiding it from me or the pressure of being the one to bring it up.
 
Honestly I find that there are actually a lot of girls curious about it. The real question is, how are you trying to meet these girls? Are you expecting them to advertise it to you or are you bringing it up to the girl. When I'm interested in a girl I'm either very upfront about my sexual tastes and kinks, or I make comments in a way that it could be a joke or might not be a joke and judge their reaction. But, I've found the upfront approach works a lot better. If you're on a fetish site looking you have to be careful because there are A LOT of kink shamers out there and they will do their best to destroy you on the sites. But I've always posted dog knot and bad dragon toys and went from there. Often times I'll find someone into my other kinks and then start talking limits as well and bring it up that way. Some sites let people put up the human sex map, that's a great way to find out as well. But I always make sure I approach the subject first, so that if she is interested then she doesn't have to have the insecurity of hiding it from me or the pressure of being the one to bring it up.
I like your style. A lot. Unfortunately where I am at I can do no such thing without bringing unwanted attention.
 
Unfortunately where I am at I can do no such thing without bringing unwanted attention.
How is that possible, if you keep it as your little pleasureful, loving secret between you and your partner?
 
I actually came out on beastfourm years ago before it was taken down. And well I got swarmed yes, it was lots of support for me and encouragement to try and do it then I finally did and have not looked back since.

But I do agree guys can be overly excited about finding a girl who likes this stuff.

it is only a natural thing where guys looking for their match and when they have apportunity so they try to act on it.

i love the name of your account by the way it sounds like a name of a noble or a knight :) Lol
 
I've been hoping to build a life with a zoo woman for many years. I'm staring at 40 now, and it is in some way part of why I'm still single. At 22 I started talking to my first love again. We had broke up 6 years earlier because I was very religious and worried about fornication, and we fornicated a lot! haha...... We even tried fisting, and I didn't know it was a sex act. She often wanted more fingers, had a roomy vagina, and I was ever curious!

So, after a couple of days of talking again, she brings the subject to sex. We talk about fantasies. FFM threesomes is at the top of her list. I tell about fisting, and she's somewhat receptive. We talk about erotic stories. I then take a big leap and tell her about my fascination with zoo women (but didn't admit my own experiences). She agreed that her and her best friend really liked beastie stories. Her tone changed though. Things wound down. Our phone call lasted about 10 mins more. She never spoke to me again. She was a pshychology major and has ended up counseling kids. Even if she genuinely liked the zoo erotic stories, it was a conflict with her career, and possibly would have been too stressful for her to consistently dabble in those fantasies with another person's knowledge.

Before that though, I had told 3 women. One was a coworker that was chubby and bisexual. She was so open and giddy. She admitted to even having an incest dream about her mom, after I told her about zoo stuff. She went on to date a woman for a while. She was genuinely interested in being mounted.

Woman #2- army girl. She was about 28, and a single mom, average or slightly below in attractiveness. She was blunt and talked about sex a whole lot, and wanted to fuck asap. She was legit curious, and would have definitely tried being mounted. Her vagina was definitely smaller than average too. Her gyno said that too. Her pelvic opening was narrow. A medium to small dog could have probably tied with her. She was open to incest with her sister, and sis's husband. They joked about having a threesome first, then literally kicked the idea around. I'm not sure what she chose in the long run, but she did marry and they had threesomes. She contacted me a couple of years later.

Met with a M/F couple from BeastForum back in 2004, for her sake, at a nudist campground that was their 2nd home. Nearly everyone there was a swinger. I was an owner. They got cold feet that day. I think the woman in the neighboring camper was looking at us too suspiciously.

2 different FWB's in small towns in the south said they might try it, but it was to involve blindfolds and be a part of BDSM play. One said she might need a few drinks. I considered them to just be game for most anything, but they probably would not become zoo. Both of these women are conservative in their world view, which leads me to the topic of liberal or conservative women that was mentioned above. If more liberal women have sex with dogs than conservative women, it isn't by a long shot. I've been in both swinging and polyamory for 10 years +. The conservatives are more likely to compartmentalize, and still do adventurous things, or things that consider sinful. They have the perspective that most people color outside the line in one way or another.

The few liberal poly people that I've admitted this to? Two of them admitted that they like the erotic stories, but that was it. One trans guy heard me out, but didn't show any sign one way or the other, but still fooled around with me. Another trans guy recently admitted high interest in being mounted. The rest of the liberal women I've admitted this two have been a mix. Two of them were a maybe. Both of them having already let a female dog lick their pussy juice off of their fingers. One of them definitely would have tried taking the knot, but she was used to coloring outside the lines and owns a pot farm in California. The author one is/was a published author. She left my city with a broken heart due to a different guy. She kinda threw me under the bus, but didn't expose me, on her blog.

One other liberal and openly bi and poly woman that I had a date with said that zoo sex wasn't for her, but that she had met a woman that was into it, and that if I kept waiting that I'd meet such a woman. In general though, the other liberal woman say either "yuk", or they bring up the topic of consent. They are also much more likely to use condoms all the time in non-monogamy. Slightly more than half of the conservative swingers I was with wanted to go bare. So, each mindset approaches hush hush sex topics from a different angle. No doubt there are lots of exceptions to my experiences, but....... I've seen a pattern, the liberal poly women are more likely to stick with rules, while the conservative women were just barely more likely to break their local culture's rules, but not consider it a lifestyle, or maybe not do it often.

On Bad Dragon forums, that aren't as active anymore, I chatted and had extended conversations with several women into fantasy dildos, especially bigger ones. If something tipped me off that they may be into zoo fantasies, I'd ask in due time. Nearly 50% of the women that I asked were into the fantasies. Some of those were a "maybe", but a few would have come vacation in my city if I had a pony that would mount them, or a decent sized dog. Of the rest, maybe only one or two had a huge objection to it. They usually, mentioned consent and we changed the subject after I reassured that I'd witnessed consent. Things stayed light, or we drifted and stopped sending messages over days.
 
Idk how like much I can really provide to this thread but like low key as a girl a lot of my friends are also into zoo and it's honestly so different for us than I would say guys. I just see a lot more guys are hesitant to open up about anything where I am like an emotional fountain. So yeah girls are out there but like with everything it takes time to find people~
 
Met my zoo wife at 45. Was worth the wait!

But toss this into your calculations, using her example. She won't come in here. Lost interest in online zoo groups eons ago. Nothing in it for her, from her point of view. Doesn't need approval, validation, community... none of that. (That's all me. I'm the talker. She's the "doer," into face-to-face communications).

What does she "need"? Well, nothing that would get her "counted" in the tallies.

So thinking of that, how likely are you to get a sound accounting of the number of female zoos from an online community polling?
 
Met my zoo wife at 45. Was worth the wait!

But toss this into your calculations, using her example. She won't come in here. Lost interest in online zoo groups eons ago. Nothing in it for her, from her point of view. Doesn't need approval, validation, community... none of that. (That's all me. I'm the talker. She's the "doer," into face-to-face communications).

What does she "need"? Well, nothing that would get her "counted" in the tallies.

So thinking of that, how likely are you to get a sound accounting of the number of female zoos from an online community polling?

This right here is why I'm so open when I start talking to a girl... maybe some girls come to these forums to meet a guy, but I think for most it's either to learn, or just to be open so they don't feel alone with it. And let's face it, guys are absolutely ridiculous when it comes to any sex site and a girl being on it. (Myself included, lol).. they bombard them with messages and dick pics, etc.. I mean I'm not shy about my kinks at all.. had more than one girl walk away because of what I like, but had more stay for a while in all honesty... Not all liked zoo, some liked my other fetishes, but I've always been upfront in hopes of finding the right girl..
 
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And let's face it, guys are absolutely ridiculous when it comes to any sex site and a girl being on it. (Myself included, lol).. they bombard them with messages and dick pics, etc..
That's it right there. It's fun for her for a second. Then it's wearisome. She tires and she leaves.

Over and over and over, this has been her experience. So... she just quit entirely. The most recent "quit"? A couple from one site *insisted* I prove I was a couple, not just a man. So I talked to her, she agreed but... she asked what was the proof they required? I mean, she doesn't *owe* anyone proof she exists. That's stupid for a guy to insist that. But it was the husband's idea. He wanted her to get a KIK profile (she hates KIK. After all, that's a kids' site, never meant for adults). So... she took the time to make one. And then he (though asking as a couple) insisted that we all get together for a chat. Problem is, *his* wife seemed never to be available. He just wanted him and us. How... interesting.

And then it was all the requests for pictures.

Oh fuck. She gave him a few right away (she isn't bashful), but right away he doubted they were "hers." And that was it. She said "You talk to him." And she left it to play games on her iPad.

It's the way it goes... over... and over... and over... and over... again.

Oh the OTHER hand... We'll go to a local bar on a Friday night, she'll see some guy that just piques her interest, and ... I'll nod, she'll leave with him, and I'll come back to pick her up when she texts.

She doesn't HAVE to prove to anybody that she's real. She doesn't OWE anyone proof that she's a lusty gal. Or a true redhead. Or loves cocks. Or loves to play with animals involved. And she gets SO TIRED THAT SHE GETS DEMANDS TO PROVE IT, over and over and over.

So she doesn't come here. She just enjoys "real life." :)

And although she says she doesn't need it, I believe she enjoys the protection of a fucking, "pro-wrestler" huge Czech husband who, if someone hurts my best friend, my wife, I will make sure no one finds the body.

Testosterone has TWO outs. One's a hard cock. The other is a hard fist. Women may never understand that correlation. Almost all heterosexual men, however, do. I relish it. I love it when she "unleashes her beast." (We have a "contract" between us. I do not leave my seat, I do not interfere, unless she beckons me. And *if* she can't handle something, if she beckons me, pity the foo.)
 
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Idk how like much I can really provide to this thread but like low key as a girl a lot of my friends are also into zoo and it's honestly so different for us than I would say guys. I just see a lot more guys are hesitant to open up about anything where I am like an emotional fountain. So yeah girls are out there but like with everything it takes time to find people~
You haven't met me then. I'm very open about my interest in K9 women on this site. Now, in person, I don't dare bring it up. Not only would I put myself in harms way, as a single guy over 30 I would certainly get funny looks and unwanted attention by doing so.
 
I actually came out on beast forum years ago before it was taken down. And well I got swarmed yes, it was lots of support for me and encouragement to try and do it then I finally did and have not looked back since.

But I do agree guys can be overly excited about finding a girl who likes this stuff.
I am not overly exited about it. It is just a normal part of my life and like to be with someone who feels the same way. I hope it makes sense to you.
 
You haven't met me then. I'm very open about my interest in K9 women on this site. Now, in person, I don't dare bring it up. Not only would I put myself in harms way, as a single guy over 30 I would certainly get funny looks and unwanted attention by doing so.
Oh I mean irl and on like not zooville or other such forums!~ I like constantly joke and prod people testing what their limits are before I like commit to friendships like I first joke about being into furry stuff then bad dragon dicks them talk about how cute dogs are etc and like gage hope they react if it's even slightly negative at any point I abort. It's led to a decent life with people who think I'm chill including my doggy love.
 
That's it right there. It's fun for her for a second. Then it's wearisome. She tires and she leaves.

Over and over and over, this has been her experience. So... she just quit entirely. The most recent "quit"? A couple from one site *insisted* I prove I was a couple, not just a man. So I talked to her, she agreed but... she asked what was the proof they required? I mean, she doesn't *owe* anyone proof she exists. That's stupid for a guy to insist that. But it was the husband's idea. He wanted her to get a KIK profile (she hates KIK. After all, that's a kids' site, never meant for adults). So... she took the time to make one. And then he (though asking as a couple) insisted that we all get together for a chat. Problem is, *his* wife seemed never to be available. He just wanted him and us. How... interesting.

And then it was all the requests for pictures.

Oh fuck. She gave him a few right away (she isn't bashful), but right away he doubted they were "hers." And that was it. She said "You talk to him." And she left it to play games on her iPad.

It's the way it goes... over... and over... and over... and over... again.

Oh the OTHER hand... We'll go to a local bar on a Friday night, she'll see some guy that just piques her interest, and ... I'll nod, she'll leave with him, and I'll come back to pick her up when she texts.

She doesn't HAVE to prove to anybody that she's real. She doesn't OWE anyone proof that she's a lusty gal. Or a true redhead. Or loves cocks. Or loves to play with animals involved. And she gets SO TIRED THAT SHE GETS DEMANDS TO PROVE IT, over and over and over.

So she doesn't come here. She just enjoys "real life." :)

And although she says she doesn't need it, I believe she enjoys the protection of a fucking, "pro-wrestler" huge Czech husband who, if someone hurts my best friend, my wife, I will make sure no one finds the body.

Testosterone has TWO outs. One's a hard cock. The other is a hard fist. Women may never understand that correlation. Almost all heterosexual men, however, do. I relish it. I love it when she "unleashes her beast." (We have a "contract" between us. I do not leave my seat, I do not interfere, unless she beckons me. And *if* she can't handle something, if she beckons me, pity the foo.)
Just a small side commentary but like I thought everything you said was really cool as like a starry eyed 20 year old thinkin bout cute relationships like that, and like you get it I hate being asked to prove stuff or so anything I don't want to but get pressured into it cause online it doesn't seem as annoying but irl nobody would ever do that shit (unless they're only used to online interactions). I'm only here to possibly make friends and be in an environment where I can safely maybe make new friends who not only accept me but would also (figuratively and literally) take a hit from a dog cock bong with me~
 
I once knew a guy from it was Israel or one of the stans I donf recall anyways he was like here let me buy you a plane ticket yoh come visit be my girl! I was like helllll na. Point being at least here in America field are taught to avoid those places nd men like the plague. Best of luck man. Foreigners certainly wont be much help to you
 
This right here is why I'm so open when I start talking to a girl... maybe some girls come to these forums to meet a guy, but I think for most it's either to learn, or just to be open so they don't feel alone with it. And let's face it, guys are absolutely ridiculous when it comes to any sex site and a girl being on it. (Myself included, lol).. they bombard them with messages and dick pics, etc.. I mean I'm not shy about my kinks at all.. had more than one girl walk away because of what I like, but had more stay for a while in all honesty... Not all liked zoo, some liked my other fetishes, but I've always been upfront in hopes of finding the right girl..
I really appreciate your posts on this thread. They are encouraging. I may be a little more open again after reading this thread, but I was that way at age 21 to age 23. As I wrote above, I almost was able to get back with my first love, but she completely changed her mind after I mentioned zoo, even though she said that she liked the stories. She told a brother who then told a different family who has known me my whole life. I was open about it to my "buddies" too, but they started to tell friends of my parents. No major info got back to my parents, except once my dad told me that everyone knew I was a perv, but I think he said that because people knew I was interested in swinging as well.

Anyway, I still feel that being forward and telling a woman this on the 2nd or 3rd date is..... risky, but overall it may be a risk worth taking, especially if we look for clues of acceptance first.
 
I am not overly exited about it. It is just a normal part of my life and like to be with someone who feels the same way. I hope it makes sense to you.

Makes total sense I dont hate the attention at all sometimes guys can be jerks just as girls can be the same. Maybe its because I grew up in the country on a farm i have thicker skin? I haven't really been bothered, in fact I'm happy i found places like beastfourm and this place where I'm not alone and people understand.
 
A lot of men have this fantasy because they are fans of knotty girls. Reality for them is what they see in porn. At first its exciting to see a knotty girl do her thing right in front of you and you become more aroused because she's your girlfriend....but the male ego doesn't care about fandom because you'll quickly realize that your girlfriend may have more sex with her dog(s) than she does you.

The problem with fans is that all they care about is a canine-girl being tied to a dog's knot. They never pay attention to the canine-girl herself. Unfortunately, the "lifestyle" is an illusion. If you cant tell the difference between Sarah (Zoe Matthews) "Sink Into Sarah/American Pet" and Lise (Eloa Lombard) "Petals and Pets/Pleasure Flower" then don't get a K9 girlfriend.



I'm sure Israeli girls do something with their lovely canines. but they will never ever talk about it to anyone! Israel isn't as bad as the rest of the Middle East, but women are still treated horribly. Imagine what would happen to some girl who innocently "came out" to her crush?



If a guy is lucky enough to put a ring on me or one of my canine/wolf sisters, then chances are we chose to be with them long before they fell in love with us. I will say that certain guys in your "community" ultimately screwed you by glorifying the...... zoo exclusive "lifestyle,"......... then they give new and seasoned canine women an excuse to be zoo exclusive by acting like disrespectful misogynists and wonder why some if not most of us want anything to do with guys lol.

So before you or any other fan of ours decide that turning one of us into a housewife is a good idea, you need to have your priorities straight. Do you want a live-in amateur porn star that reenacts all your favorite scenes from zooskool, bfi, and japanese beast videos....or do you want a wife? There's a difference!

Yes I take 4 doggy knots like Stray X while I give my husband (and sometimes others) a blowjob, but, he's not obsessed with me being knotted every minute of every day. I also have a boyfriend who could be my knotty husband if I weren't already married. The difference between him and the rest of you?....He pays attention to me--and he knows what he's doing and also knows how to pleasure me using one of my rotties while getting what he wants.

Lastly, did you see how I wander away from my husband to sleep with his friend after he gets his k9 wolfia fix, and called him my boyfriend?
Can you explain the very last part I don’t get what you mean
 
Anyway, I still feel that being forward and telling a woman this on the 2nd or 3rd date is..... risky, but overall it may be a risk worth taking, especially if we look for clues of acceptance first.
I think it is a must. Why do you try to be with someone who can or will not accept you the way you are? A relationship will never be satisfying and a truly loving relationship, if you have to hide some for you important desires.
 
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