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Gun Ownership - NO politics, just "Do you or do you not own a firearm"

Do you legally own a firearm of any kind?

  • I own one or more firearms, and am an American

    Votes: 443 55.5%
  • I own NO firearms, and am an American

    Votes: 125 15.7%
  • I own one or more firearms, and am other than American (Feel free to specify Citizenship)

    Votes: 82 10.3%
  • I own NO firearms, and am other than American (Feel free to specify Citizenship)

    Votes: 120 15.0%
  • I am not legally able to own a firearm (Feel free to specify reason)

    Votes: 28 3.5%

  • Total voters
    798
If you have access to a cnc and/or a welder you can make some pretty sophisticated arms as well. In fact AU the police have a problem with biker gangs manufacturing firearms and ammunition and distributing them
 
If you have access to a cnc and/or a welder you can make some pretty sophisticated arms as well. In fact AU the police have a problem with biker gangs manufacturing firearms and ammunition and distributing them
I made a black powder smoothbore .38 when I was 13 in my dad's tool shop. Made the ball from melted fishing weights.
I kinda underestimated how loud of a *BANG!* it would make and got caught after the first shot :eek:
 
I've made a few 12 ga and .45 acp zippers in my time, though one of my favs is the pipe slam shotgun, gotta make it right though, or the pipes could burst and hurt you more than whatever it's pointed at.

And yeah, black powder is a lot easier to get your hands on and or make, but I'd never recommend anybody makes smokeless without knowledge, proper tools, and a clean room. That stuff is SUPER volatile
 
I've made a few 12 ga and .45 acp zippers in my time, though one of my favs is the pipe slam shotgun, gotta make it right though, or the pipes could burst and hurt you more than whatever it's pointed at.

And yeah, black powder is a lot easier to get your hands on and or make, but I'd never recommend anybody makes smokeless without knowledge, proper tools, and a clean room. That stuff is SUPER volatile
Smokeless is outside the range of knowledge, equipment, and materials easily/economically available for probably 99.9% of the population. I *MIGHT* be able to do it, given several items I currently lack, and plenty of time to dick around (probably with several failed attempts in the process) but it's definitley not something I'd want to try without having a *VERY* pressing motivation.

Black powder is dead easy, pretty cheap, and damned hard to mess up unless you're just plain stupid. (assuming you can put hands on the materials, of course - not too many folks have access to clean-enough-to-be-trustable KNO3 without going shopping and leaving a mile-wide paper trail in the process) It's also pretty forgiving - Foul it up, and you're MUCH more likely to get away with nothing worse than a pile of stinking black mess that sputters and barely burns, rather than the building-leveling kaboom that a botched attempt at smokeless is likely to give you, especially if you're insane enough to try messing with the picrates. And if there's ever been a truly "safe" method of nitrating just about anything in a "bathtub lab" type situation, I've never heard of it.
 
Smokeless is outside the range of knowledge, equipment, and materials easily/economically available for probably 99.9% of the population. I *MIGHT* be able to do it, given several items I currently lack, and plenty of time to dick around (probably with several failed attempts in the process) but it's definitley not something I'd want to try without having a *VERY* pressing motivation.

Black powder is dead easy, pretty cheap, and damned hard to mess up unless you're just plain stupid. (assuming you can put hands on the materials, of course - not too many folks have access to clean-enough-to-be-trustable KNO3 without going shopping and leaving a mile-wide paper trail in the process) It's also pretty forgiving - Foul it up, and you're MUCH more likely to get away with nothing worse than a pile of stinking black mess that sputters and barely burns, rather than the building-leveling kaboom that a botched attempt at smokeless is likely to give you, especially if you're insane enough to try messing with the picrates. And if there's ever been a truly "safe" method of nitrating just about anything in a "bathtub lab" type situation, I've never heard of it.
If you live up north you could always store the KNO3 for de-icing the driveway if anyone asks...
 
If you have access to a cnc and/or a welder you can make some pretty sophisticated arms as well. In fact AU the police have a problem with biker gangs manufacturing firearms and ammunition and distributing them
But what about the mass shootings in the USA? (Gang crime is also included in those stats.) But gun control works, right? I mean, they've "stopped" the crooks from obtaining them, right? No more mass shootings, RIGHT???

(Hint: Even New Zealand admits gun control doesn't work.)
 
Nope, British civilians aren't aloud to have firearms. I think there are exceptions if you have military history, or if you're a member of the armed police, but I'm too lazy to check.
 
In Denmark illegal weapons like knives and clubs is punishable by a fine. But having unlicensed firearms always jail, minimum 6 months.
Handguns is only allowed in shooting clubs and the gun is stored there.
Hunting rifle and shotgun are allowed after a police check and further more acquiring the license to hunt, that is to pass the course about what and how to hunt and includes the training how to handle the weapon.
 
Im in a shooting club and own firearms. In Germany its one of a few possibilities to get them legal, but its not easy.
 
It is argued that a gun is bought as a defence against burglars.
According to statistics a gun in the house increases the risk of being shot.
Every 40 times someone gets shot in the house, only one is a burglar. The other 39 is someone living in the house.
Every year this death toll in USA is higher than on 9-11.
It is simple psychology, when you feel in danger, the animal instincts takes control to defend you with whatever is at / in hand. So instead of hitting with your hand, you use the gun.
Lol! Ok then, by that logic driving a car increases your chances of dying in a car accident. Having a knife inside your house increases your chances of getting stabbed, owning a bar of soap and a sock increases your chances of getting sock partied to death. You really really need to stop spewing your cracker jack research in this thread where it specifically asks not to. Any more arguments or opinions will be deleted and offender warned
 
It is argued that a gun is bought as a defence against burglars.
According to statistics a gun in the house increases the risk of being shot.
Every 40 times someone gets shot in the house, only one is a burglar. The other 39 is someone living in the house.
Every year this death toll in USA is higher than on 9-11.
It is simple psychology, when you feel in danger, the animal instincts takes control to defend you with whatever is at / in hand. So instead of hitting with your hand, you use the gun.
Which part of "NO politics" don't you get?

You've already made it clear in various posts that you've been brainwashed into the whole "Guns bad!" concept. Which likely answers the question posed - "Nope, I think guns are bad, so I don't own one". OK, goody for you. Now move on.

This thread is for one purpose, which is outlined in the original post - To sum that purpose up, "Do you own a firearm?"

Not "OMG! Guns are evil!", but "Do you own a firearm?" That's it, that's all. Your opinion on whether guns are good, bad, or somewhere in between is of no interest - at least in this thread. You want that thread and the flamefest that I'm ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN it'll turn into, just like it does every single time the subject comes up? Then find yourself a corner of the dumpster fire, pile you up a nice mound of tinder, pour some gasoline over it, and strike the match. I (and no doubt several others) will GLADLY hammer you into the ground like a short tent-peg with the "pro-gun" side of the discussion in the proper venue. But that venue isn't this thread...
 
Criminals aren't? They use a gun for everything because they're not man enough to deal with anything.
You don't hear about legit gun owners just shooting up places.
Kinda weird it always happens when a democRAT gets in office.
Criminals are miss understood and don't have any other path in life.
 
Criminals are miss understood and don't have any other path in life.
The "snarkasm" is strong in this one...

ESPECIALLY since one of the requirements listed for interning on his ranch is "gun-friendly", though I forget the precise wording he used, he did manage to make that QUITE clear. <snicker>

NAUGHTY gun-guy! No ammo for you for a week! Next offense gets you a straight month in the pit pulling targets! :devilish:
 
Not only do I own I conceal carry and think we should be allowed to open carry
Some of us are...

I'm also a CPL holder, in a state where open carry is perfectly legal. Have even had the pleasure of schooling a pair of cops on the legalities when they thought they were gonna play the "me cop, you perp, you lose" card. The looks on their faces when their captain rolled up and informed them I was 100% right (as well as 100% legal) was absolutely priceless :)

And unlike some places I've been, having a CPL is specifically "holder MAY carry concealed", rather than the "A concealed carry permit holder MUST conceal" I've encountered in other places. Which makes printing/flashing a "Yeah? So what?" event, rather than a crime.
 
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