Fake User Awareness Thread

[Mesond]

or worse

What's "worse" for you might be "fine" for me. In this situation it has to do with the upfront/honesty factor. Which is a good argument. The concern is how others take the flak because of using their pictures.

People have this unrealistic expectation that conversations are going to go the way they want/expect. In reality people will misunderstand each other and they will take issue with it. It's better to accept it as an invertibility. This way you'll be prepearing counter moves for arguments sooner rather then later.

To quoite Tony Robbins:
To effectively communicate, we must realize that we are all different in the way we perceive the world and use this understanding as a guide to our communication with others.

 

[RunFun]

What a pointless. thread if you think about it.
It has been nothing but AI generated shit pics and some poorly programmed chat bots 95% of the time on here since I joined.

Why not make a "Beware! Legit user awareness thread" instead? lol.

 

[Oldman]

and asked for verification pics and videos, which were provided, with a view to arrange a meet.

WHY THE FUCK DID YOU DO THIS!!!!! God damnit people! Stop thinking with your fucking dicks! Don't ever ever ever ever give anyone any "verification" bullshit!

Good luck with whatever the fuck is going to happen to you.

 

[Mesond]

WHY THE FUCK DID YOU DO THIS!!!!! God damnit people! Stop thinking with your fucking dicks! Don't ever ever ever ever give anyone any "verification" bullshit!

Good luck with whatever the fuck is going to happen to you.

Probably because not everyone is afraid of showing their face. It's things like credit card information not to give out. That's when they're trying to scam you for money.

I'd want to know what someone looks like before meeting them too. Imagine meeting somoene someone chubby. That just makes the first meeting awkward. Then it's like "You came here for nothing". I don't think showing pics is the problem. I think being shady enough to talk off site ASAP is.

I'm noticing they'll do it less then five messages in a convo. Session or telegram probably.

 

[YanchaOkami]

Probably because not everyone is afraid of showing their face. It's things like credit card information not to give out. That's when they're trying to scam you for money.

I'd want to know what someone looks like before meeting them too.

Did you know that there are AI based reverse search engines existing which can basically crawl the .nets with just one to two pictures of your face (or anything with your face being a part of it) and in many cases find lots of trails where you've posted..? Directly linking your "verification" to your real life with predestined results if it gets into the wrong hands?

Nooooo?

Have fun trying it with your own image for a test run: https://pimeyes.com/en

Holy sh*t, people are not clever nowadays.

 

[Mesond]

Did you know that there are AI based reverse search engines existing which can basically crawl the .nets with just one to two pictures of your face (or anything with your face being a part of it) and in many cases find lots of trails where you've posted..? Directly linking your "verification" to your real life with predestined results if it gets into the wrong hands?

Nooooo?

Have fun trying it with your own image for a test run: https://pimeyes.com/en

Holy sh*t, people are not clever nowadays.

I'm aware. It's not like people weren't photobucketing before that though. What are people going to do with fake pictures when it would never hold up in a court of law because of how easy it is to fake?

You can fake ID easily enough regardless. But just a picture? What are people going to do with that? Now if someone had your picture AND you're bank account details that's another matter. But then you'd have to release something like bank account details in the first place.

 

[Edenraed]

Did you know that there are AI based reverse search engines existing which can basically crawl the .nets with just one to two pictures of your face (or anything with your face being a part of it) and in many cases find lots of trails where you've posted..? Directly linking your "verification" to your real life with predestined results if it gets into the wrong hands?

Nooooo?

Have fun trying it with your own image for a test run: https://pimeyes.com/en

Holy sh*t, people are not clever nowadays.

Tried it with a pic of me, didn't work, didn't find any pic of me from Facebook or any other social media, it showed me pics of people who looked similar to me

 

[saddlebum66]

Probably because not everyone is afraid of showing their face. It's things like credit card information not to give out. That's when they're trying to scam you for money.

I'd want to know what someone looks like before meeting them too. Imagine meeting somoene someone chubby. That just makes the first meeting awkward. Then it's like "You came here for nothing". I don't think showing pics is the problem. I think being shady enough to talk off site ASAP is.

I'm noticing they'll do it less then five messages in a convo. Session or telegram probably.

Got a problem with chubbies? You know what they say, bud, "Buggers can't be choosers". Pretty lame, body shaming.

And if you can't figure out a way of getting a look before introducing yourself, good luck the day a Cop shows up.

 

[Mesond]

Got a problem with chubbies? You know what they say, bud, "Buggers can't be choosers". Pretty lame, body shaming.

And if you can't figure out a way of getting a look before introducing yourself, good luck the day a Cop shows up.

I got a problem with people that can't look after their health and make excuses for it. Chubby people pretend they're not unhealthy. To that I say I know a lot of people that have suffered and died from bad eating habits. It catches up when you neglet it.

It's what you don't think is dangerious that's more dangerious. Not just talking about food either. I also strip away moral high grounds. A cop won't work with me when the law is hypocritical. Also at that point you're talking about a site with dog fucking anyway. Pictures are the least of your problems there.

 

[saddlebum66]

What a pointless. thread if you think about it.
It has been nothing but AI generated shit pics and some poorly programmed chat bots 95% of the time on here since I joined.

Why not make a "Beware! Legit user awareness thread" instead? lol.

Pointless comment for a pointless Thread....Seems appropriate. I guess the 5% legit stuff keeps you here, hmm?

 

[RunFun]

Pointless comment for a pointless Thread....Seems appropriate. I guess the 5% legit stuff keeps you here, hmm?

You have a point I guess.
When you're right you're right. Even if you're being an ass about it.

 

[YanchaOkami]

Social network information or different contact information was quite thoughtlessly shared even two years ago.

And it's not necessary to find out your exact real life data just by one posting or one verification. There are "games" like geoguesser while a lot of people enjoy doing this just as a private hobby. With all the information which might get collected over time from your postings, from different (fake) conversational contacts and whatnot. Why? Maybe because they just don't like people which copulate with animals or wish to do so? That's quite a big reason for some folks.

Tried it with a pic of me, didn't work, ..

It's one tool which can be used to find out more details about people. It doesn't have to be a one-try-hit. There are enough people which would dedicate their whole free time to actually catch zoophiles (and they do, some at least). ?‍

I saw people here and otherwise posting geolocation'ed pictures and their registration plates (if they were theirs), you wouldn't believe how carefree many people are.

From my side it's a friendly warning as it is easier than many assume to find out more than they would ever want to get combined and known about them.

If you don't care: that's fine, consequences are your own hassle, if they should appear. ?‍

 

[saddlebum66]

You have a point I guess.
When you're right you're right. Even if you're being an ass about it.

Unless it was "attitude" inserted by a translator, your statement was pretty much the problem. The place is the only game in town. Youve been here 6 months....You ought to learn to navigate it. You do tend, in this world, to get what you give.

 

[saddlebum66]

Funny....long before AI, people managed to meet. The ease of contact brought with the net, also seems to have increased, rather than lessened, fear.

 

[Edenraed]

Social network information or different contact information was quite thoughtlessly shared even two years ago.

I agree with what you are saying, a confirmation pic to strangers should never include your face, a piece of paper or any other part of your body can do the trick, but never your face

 

[RunFun]

Unless it was "attitude" inserted by a translator, your statement was pretty much the problem. The place is the only game in town. Youve been here 6 months....You ought to learn to navigate it. You do tend, in this world, to get what you give.

I simply observed the behaviour put forth by people like you and then adopted that.
True story.

 

[saddlebum66]

I simply observed the behaviour put forth by people like you and then adopted that.
True story.

Except, that like many of the junior grade nutcakes here, you only saw part of it. You have no clue about what I may or may not be like. This is not the place for argument, in any case. True story.

 

[saddlebum66]

I agree with what you are saying, a confirmation pic to strangers should never include your face, a piece of paper or any other part of your body can do the trick, but never your face

The keyword is "Strangers"....expecting a doggie booty call after a day or a week is unreasonable....The person youre looking to meet, if legit, will understand slow. If they push, maybe that's the clue to bag it as experience. I've met ten people from the larger "Community"; taking the time to get to know them pays off. They are all still friends.

 

[YanchaOkami]

Funny....long before AI, people managed to meet. The ease of contact brought with the net, also seems to have increased, rather than lessened, fear.

That's somewhat dependent on regions and risks. In this country it was fully legal to that time, as long as no cruelty / enforcing / torturing would've been applied. Even meeting with others and all such was fully legal.

Nowadays it's not only more risky by law (even if in detail - under specific circumstances - still not judgeable), but the "social" networks which proved to be a hoard for denunciation in extreme terms ..

.. can nowadays ruin a whole life by just stating something half-true to look true by just a partly screenshot of a conversation or comparable. Job gets instantly canceled to prevent bad influence on the company, every other dependence in life gets spied out and flooded by "haters" (which there are a lot in our topic) with "proof" and suggestive or endangering writings and so on. Family, friends, whole contact lists of "social" networks.

I can absolutely understand why there are new denunciation problems which weren't given around 18 to 25 years ago, let alone before this.. And surely the correct decision is to be somewhat more careful in terms of "the .nets don't forget".

 

[SxaBeast]

Got a problem with chubbies? You know what they say, bud, "Buggers can't be choosers". Pretty lame, body shaming.

And if you can't figure out a way of getting a look before introducing yourself, good luck the day a Cop shows up.

Buggers?

 

[saddlebum66]

That's somewhat dependent on regions and risks. In this country it was fully legal to that time, as long as no cruelty / enforcing / torturing would've been applied. Even meeting with others and all such was fully legal.

Nowadays it's not only more risky by law (even if in detail - under specific circumstances - still not judgeable), but the "social" networks which proved to be a hoard for denunciation in extreme terms ..

.. can nowadays ruin a whole life by just stating something half-true to look true by just a partly screenshot of a conversation or comparable. Job gets instantly canceled to prevent bad influence on the company, every other dependence in life gets spied out and flooded by "haters" (which there are a lot in our topic) with "proof" and suggestive or endangering writings and so on. Family, friends, whole contact lists of "social" networks.

I can absolutely understand why there are new denunciation problems which weren't given around 18 to 25 years ago, let alone before this.. And surely the correct decision is to be somewhat more careful in terms of "the .nets don't forget".

This may be true. There may have been places where it was legal. I'd have to see a law book to assess that. In many areas of the World, the fact that this was not specifically ILLEGAL reflects the mores of a time and a belief in class, and not the idea that no one cared. But as the World has developed, especially since WWI, the example of people setting standards has faded into nothing. The net allowed seekers to find. But it also has allowed seekers to be found....and there are reasons to worry about that.

What I do know is we have a remarkable number of people here who think this lends itself to "Saturday night Specials" and a fairly large number of people who prey on them in various degrees. AI has nothing to do with it, as someone here seems to think....since all of the issues were in place 30 plus years ago. The morons of the online world are no different than their earlier counterparts. Computers dont make the Nigerian Prince more Nigerian or more Royal. Protecting yourself is not a job for someone else.....it's your job to do or not.

 

[saddlebum66]

Buggers?

I said it the way I meant it...either you know or you don't.

 

[SxaBeast]

Presumed it was one of your typos. You don't use a lot of limey slang.

Now I'll let you back to your mission of writing half the posts on Zooville, 24/7.

 

[YanchaOkami]

Protecting yourself is not a job for someone else.....it's your job to do or not.

That's always correct. In a forum at least the background security and right management is established by the forums software and protective measurements, but how people throw around their personal information - that's their own choice.

"AI"s are just tools right now, not sentient AI - mere a training data based emulation of neuronal networks. Big difference. But tools can be used and compare / analyze things ways quicker than humans. Together with snippets of personal information it ends in easier denunciation through those that use them, not themself.

Even with their own responsibility for their risk management .. it doesn't hurt me to mention from time to time how problematic freely shared personal information can get at the end. What people do, that is their own decision.

 

[Schuppentier]

Did you know that there are AI based reverse search engines existing which can basically crawl the .nets with just one to two pictures of your face (or anything with your face being a part of it) and in many cases find lots of trails where you've posted..? Directly linking your "verification" to your real life with predestined results if it gets into the wrong hands?

Nooooo?

Have fun trying it with your own image for a test run: https://pimeyes.com/en

Holy sh*t, people are not clever nowadays.

I did try the search. Nothing came up, just a random dude with a fisherman's hat smiling into cam.

But, to be honest, I don't have any social media, and I also have a very featureless face.
Iam completely bold, without any special birthmarks, no piercings, no tattoos, no glasses. The only thing special of my faca are my teeth (I have a genetical thing, witch turns my little upper front flat teeth into pointy ones, inherited from my father), but I Usualy don't like showing my teeth during photos, because of that genetic anomaly.
So iam basicly impossible to find on the internet.

The only advice I can give is: never upload any photos of yourself to the internet, and do not make any social media profiles. They are useless anyway, unless you are kinda famous for something, and whant to grow. You don't need to have an Instagram, with hundreds of photos of you, that will barely have any more 5 followers.

 

[YanchaOkami]

That's for sure: if you're someone who finds almost similar looking people quite often or you don't usually post much images on the .nets, then it's a quite low chance to actually find you with the help of such tools.

But if you have tattoos visible, scars, defects (heterochromia as example) or even "just" birthmarks, colorization which is not that usual, you wear specific (not often seen) rings, any piercings or even accessories - this raises the identifiable markers by a lot.

If someone is careful with images of themself, I don't see a "really high risk" by just this one tool, don't worry. But after all: it's the combination of told information, profile or nick related information (as example your region / country / state), your animal companions and ways more. And each day there are new "helping" tools and they get better rapidly.

The more "unique and easy to recognize under 1000s of comparable looking people" one is by even smaller details, the higher is the risk, as nowadays people upload even images of you without asking you, because you're just a "part of the open space in their own image".

 

[Chiara2003]

While words matter, the majority of how we communicate is non-verbal which we don't get too much of through online communication. Without the non-verbal forms of communication at our disposal, it's easier for people to misrepresent themselves in all sorts of ways.

The fear comes from experiencing that phenomenon over and over.

I still remember the very first guy I met IRL from an AOL chatroom shortly after my divorce. He spent a good portion of our first and only date accusing me of misrepresenting myself. At first I didn't get it as I had sent him a photo I had taken the day I sent it, and didn't tell him anything online that wasn't true. I did leave off the zoo thing as that was extremely new and at the time I was pretending it never happened, but he didn't know that nor did he have a way of knowing that.

What it turned out to be was he hadn't gleamed from our online conversations and the headshot I sent him that I was about 5" taller than him, plus whatever heels I wore for our date which back then were probably the defacto 3". It was a date, I'm sure I dressed to impress.

And our date was really unpleasant because of it. It ended with him stomping out of the coffee house saying I'm a "lying piece of shit" to use his words. That was shocking to me, because that is not a phrase anyone had ever aimed at me previously.

Afterwards, I realized it had never occurred to me to mention my height unless asked as being tall is my normal. And it wasn't an issue in any way for my ex-husband or the several guys I dated before that. Granted, I met those men in face-to-face situations so they knew how tall I was before they approached me and introduced themselves.

And while that was accidental and not catfishing, it made me very aware of how easily it is for people, myself included, to plug the holes in information we're missing with assumptions and projections, only to be potentially disappointed down the road when we meet in person.

It was for the best, u finding his true self. He nooo worth it ?

 

[Kristy]

WHY THE FUCK DID YOU DO THIS!!!!! God damnit people! Stop thinking with your fucking dicks! Don't ever ever ever ever give anyone any "verification" bullshit!

Good luck with whatever the fuck is going to happen to you.

That was excellent. It said what had to be said, exactly HOW it had to be said.
Too many people on this site have their brain stuck in their zippers, or lost under their skirts.

 

[Kristy]

Absolutely While a bit annoying in the moment, it's awesome when they blow themselves up before I finish my coffee!

Though that was like forever ago.

Still, I'm sorry you had to mess with that. You shouldn't have had to.

 

[SxaBeast]

Thanks, though in my experience it's par for the course with online dating.

It's always felt like catalog shopping to me. Ooooh, a handsome fireman, let me order one of those! And of course being in such a catalog is just gross to me. But that's what online dating is it seems.

Not a fan of actual catalog shopping. Other than socks I still trek to stores to buy most of my clothes. I look at the stitching, feel the fabric's drape or stiffness, and I definitely try most everything on. Amazon is for gizmos and cheerios

Though, worse than online dating is speed dating lol.

Yeah, speed makes me twitchy and the ladies don't like it.