Also in reply to I love female GSD: I wonder why you guys hated yourself so much. Perhaps it's somewhere in this thread where you explain it. Has it got to do with upbringing, with the expectations of your parents or society? I mean, I was probably lucky because I began to "create" myself at a very early age already. I think it was mostly in the lyrics of songs I heard at that time, e.g. Iron Man by Black Sabbath, Don't let it show by Alan Parson's Project, Rough and Ready by Saxon, I can survive by Triumph, and the like, supported by several books and texts. One was "The Little Prince" where a scientist dressed in the traditonal clothes of his country made a presentation about the Prince's home planet, and nobody would listen to him. Some time later he did the same dressed up in a suit "and everybody agreed to what he said". That told me very early how stupid ppl are for example by judging other ppl according to the clothes they wear. And that's why I began building my own standards and not worrying so much about what other ppl think or say. But of course that's not always easy as we all are social beings and want to be accepted.