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How many are zoo exclusive?

are your zoo exclusive?

  • I'm zoo exclusive

    Votes: 445 33.5%

  • I'm not zoo exclusive

    Votes: 790 59.5%

  • I'm Involuntarily celibate - Incel

    Votes: 92 6.9%
  • Total voters
    1,327
juan_doe_drei said:
damn, i wish i would have read "the little prince" when i was young and understood it's meaning. sounds like you're the exception to the rule,
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Do you really think there are so few zoos who didn't hate themselves for who they are? i have no idea but i hope it's not so. Is there a thread somewhere here that is about that problem of struggling with your zoo identity?

juan_doe_drei said:
honestly. i can't speak for others, but yes, society at large and parents and family and religion .. all told us we were not supposed to like animals the way we did,
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I can't remember for sure, but I think when I was young that topic of zoophilia never came up in talks with other people like parents, friends or so. In fact I got caught once when in the neighbour's stable when I was about 12-14, and he wanted to know what I did with the animals and I answered "not much, just some petting" which was quite the truth as I was still far from sexual approaches. I never found out whether he ever told my parents, but they were good friends and I always had the impression that my mother knew something, especially later when I was around 18 and often came home late at night, but she never spoke of it which is probably a typical way of parents to deal with it, i.e. ignore the fact and then it doesn't exist. Same for some of the folks in my village, I suppose. Good old times (?) when ppl still didn't care too much about such things and accepted the people as they were.

juan_doe_drei said:
and that we should be ASHAMED, terribly _ashamed_ for even thinking such things... really sucks. :(
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As mentioned in my former posting I was lucky not to give too much of a damn to what ppl say, and that already at a young age. I agree that when you are younger you are much more dependent on the opinion of others, and unfortunately most people still are even as a ripe and grown-up person. Therefore books like "The little Price" should be promoted and discussed at school: easy to understand, simple language, and with great insights. However, the messages are so unspectacular and simple that probably nevertheless many readers will fail to internalize them, or they simply don't care. If you haven't read it yet I recommend doing so. Apart from the good examples for human's stupidities it has a nice chapter about how to build a friendship (episode with the fox). Again something that is so basic and simple that readers may not understand the importance of the procedure.

juan_doe_drei said:
it gets internalized in the absence of others who have been through that and come out the other side with self understanding and self confidence and self love
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Almost impossible to meet such a person in real life, I would say, and I wonder how many online examples there are.
juan_doe_drei said:
.. turns to confusion, doubt and self hate.
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Sad but understandable. If you've learned that you ought to be like everyone else (an idea that is very prominent in the US, but probably also in every other society), and you can't because you notice that you are different and noone supports you in your individuality you will get in mental trouble. Fortunately not only with the internet there are many places where you may find support and assistance.
juan_doe_drei said:
it's (part of) why i spend time in spaces like this -- to try to help others who are struggling spend less time struggling before they reach self acceptance.
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That's a good motivation. I wonder, though, how many zoos really come here to talk about their problems. Perhaps it is already enough for them to see that there are other ppl like themselves?
 
Rainbowgazer said:
Do you really think there are so few zoos who didn't hate themselves for who they are? i have no idea but i hope it's not so. Is there a thread somewhere here that is about that problem of struggling with your zoo identity?


I can't remember for sure, but I think when I was young that topic of zoophilia never came up in talks with other people like parents, friends or so. In fact I got caught once when in the neighbour's stable when I was about 12-14, and he wanted to know what I did with the animals and I answered "not much, just some petting" which was quite the truth as I was still far from sexual approaches. I never found out whether he ever told my parents, but they were good friends and I always had the impression that my mother knew something, especially later when I was around 18 and often came home late at night, but she never spoke of it which is probably a typical way of parents to deal with it, i.e. ignore the fact and then it doesn't exist. Same for some of the folks in my village, I suppose. Good old times (?) when ppl still didn't care too much about such things and accepted the people as they were.


As mentioned in my former posting I was lucky not to give too much of a damn to what ppl say, and that already at a young age. I agree that when you are younger you are much more dependent on the opinion of others, and unfortunately most people still are even as a ripe and grown-up person. Therefore books like "The little Price" should be promoted and discussed at school: easy to understand, simple language, and with great insights. However, the messages are so unspectacular and simple that probably nevertheless many readers will fail to internalize them, or they simply don't care. If you haven't read it yet I recommend doing so. Apart from the good examples for human's stupidities it has a nice chapter about how to build a friendship (episode with the fox). Again something that is so basic and simple that readers may not understand the importance of the procedure.


Almost impossible to meet such a person in real life, I would say, and I wonder how many online examples there are.

Sad but understandable. If you've learned that you ought to be like everyone else (an idea that is very prominent in the US, but probably also in every other society), and you can't because you notice that you are different and noone supports you in your individuality you will get in mental trouble. Fortunately not only with the internet there are many places where you may find support and assistance.

That's a good motivation. I wonder, though, how many zoos really come here to talk about their problems. Perhaps it is already enough for them to see that there are other ppl like themselves?
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It's nothing to be ashamed of in fact you should feel better , freedom of being zoos for me is that you can make fun healthy relationships with any animals and do even more in private because they also have needs and want a pleasurable experience,to compliment being content and comfortable with you dogs are so much fun I can't seem to find a single one that didn't like me and I could just pet even complete strangers dogs ,but I refrained from interaction with more distant friends pets since it takes some time for them to see if they like you ,even with dogs that bite or snap I would talk to them and they calm down enough I could pet and make friends ,I don't really have bad motives so I just am a friendly person to animals when you can get through to aggressive ones it's kind of satisfying and you feel like you've earned it.
 
I'm not exclusive because I do still enjoy sex with humans and I'm in a relationship with one. Sometimes I do feel like certain dog breeds are visually more attractive to me than humans though. If I ever end up being alone again I'll probably get a dog for companionship and maybe a sexual connection would develop but I wouldn't want to force anything.
 
juan_doe_drei said:
is that an autism thing? i swear i'm undiagnosed autistic .. because my understanding is that's very much a common feeling, of needing things to fit into their proper boxes, and being quite frustrated when they don't. i suffer from that A LOT.
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Regarding proper boxes, I wish people would use this sub forum for its exact overarching topic "zoo exclusive". This is one of the threads that does do that. So many threads on this sub forum should be in the Bestiality as a Fetish sub forum.

Regarding the autistic spectrum, I think there's a higher representation in the zoo community than in the population at large. In my experience in a large polyamory community, it sure is that way, quite a bit, even though I've heard of a study (survey) that didn't find that. The thing is, the survey was done at a large poly conference. The attendees of a nation wide conference is not a good place to sample.

This topic has its own large thread, but I didn't get in that discussion when it was active.
 
Renee said:
Regarding proper boxes, I wish people would use this sub forum for its exact overarching topic "zoo exclusive". This is one of the threads that does do that. So many threads on this sub forum should be in the Bestiality as a Fetish sub forum.
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yeah, this subforum went to shit a while ago when the former owner decided to encourage a bunch of people who aren't really zoo exclusive to make this their home on zooville. it just kinda snowballed from there to the point where people don't even seem to really know what zoo exclusive means.
 
Renee said:
Regarding proper boxes, I wish people would use this sub forum for its exact overarching topic "zoo exclusive". This is one of the threads that does do that. So many threads on this sub forum should be in the Bestiality as a Fetish sub forum.
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Just finished moving about a dozen pages worth of threads out of here, hopefully I can keep it to zoo exclusive discussions now.
 
juan_doe_drei said:
there are lots of people like that.
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Not here. Too many fetishists. But among actual zoos excluding fetishists, yes. It bothers me when people think it's something they can choose to be, or that just because they can't find a human partner it makes them zoo exclusive to have a fetish/kink and/or partial attraction to animals. As I've expressed before.
MESSIAHofLove said:
hot and ROMANTIC
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One of these things I see. I'm with juan doe drei tho, idk how it's hot. Unless it's the dedication? In which case wouldn't it be hot for someone to never have had an animal partner and just a human partner? I disagree, but you're entitled to your feelings. What you might like to hear considering that you already seem to like the idea of someone only ever having been with an animal is the fact that I am exclusive, so I only ever want to be with an animal. As my username suggests, a german shepherd. She'll be my girl, and though I still have years before she's even born and I can be with her, I love her more than life itself already. I love and care about her more than I ever have anything.
MashaSobaka said:
Who would have thought
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Me
 
The fetishists, people who have the worst luck with finding a relationship with someone, and the people who have the worst taste in people all claiming zoo exclusive just makes things so much worse for those of us who are zoo exclusive or even partial zoo.

Cause the fetishists just spout the same “hot hot hot i wanna be next.” Drivel with the only thinking being done by the horny brain.

The other two groups just fall to zoo because they keep trying the wrong things with the wrong people.

I would love to be able to talk with ACTUAL zoo minded people but due to the nature of things, the paranoia, and the muddy murky waters of the whole thing it makes it a pain to even consider talking with anyone cause there’s that uncertainty on whether or not they are being honest or they are lying and have no issues dragging someone into a baited trap.

I don’t do much interacting on here because of all that.
 
shadow hawk said:
I would love to be able to talk with ACTUAL zoo minded people but due to the nature of things, the paranoia, and the muddy murky waters of the whole thing it makes it a pain to even consider talking with anyone cause there’s that uncertainty on whether or not they are being honest or they are lying and have no issues dragging someone into a baited trap.

I don’t do much interacting on here because of all that.
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the zoo exclusives room on beast chat is pretty decent lately. took several years to reach critical mass, but there are conversations in there quite frequently now.
 
shadow hawk said:
I would love to be able to talk with ACTUAL zoo minded people but due to the nature of things, the paranoia, and the muddy murky waters of the whole thing it makes it a pain to even consider talking with anyone cause there’s that uncertainty on whether or not they are being honest or they are lying and have no issues dragging someone into a baited trap.

I don’t do much interacting on here because of all that
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Might I recommend Zoocadia? It's much better there. Soooo much better
 
juan_doe_drei said:
that's what friends are for, IMO. i'm lucky to have a zoo exclusive roommate. there's no sexual tension between us.
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If I could get a close friend who was also a roommate and supported my zoo-based endeavors, that would be great, but I'm still undecided on romance in general. I think I want involved romance that I doubt I could get from an dog or a horse (even if they showed me immense love and compassion), but I'm really not sure, since I've never experienced it. I'm also not even sure if I'm capable of romantic affection, with anyone, but certainly not with a human unless they're wearing a fursuit or something.
 
Aspen Tuwal said:
If I could get a close friend who was also a roommate and supported my zoo-based endeavors, that would be great, but I'm still undecided on romance in general. I think I want involved romance that I doubt I could get from an dog or a horse (even if they showed me immense love and compassion), but I'm really not sure, since I've never experienced it. I'm also not even sure if I'm capable of romantic affection, with anyone, but certainly not with a human unless they're wearing a fursuit or something.
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Animals show more true and pure love and affection than most people nowadays. My dog knows when I’m distressed and she will come to me and put her head on my leg to comfort me. I’ve gotten more love and affection from animals than i have from some members of my family.
 
shadow hawk said:
Animals show more true and pure love and affection than most people nowadays. My dog knows when I’m distressed and she will come to me and put her head on my leg to comfort me. I’ve gotten more love and affection from animals than i have from some members of my family.
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Love, affection, and romance are all related, but different concepts. I don't think anyone would argue against the claim that animals are capable of showing great love and affection, but I think romance is likely just too high-order of a social, human-made construct for an animal to realistically engage in.
 
Aspen Tuwal said:
Love, affection, and romance are all related, but different concepts. I don't think anyone would argue against the claim that animals are capable of showing great love and affection, but I think romance is likely just too high-order of a social, human-made construct for an animal to realistically engage in.
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fwiw, i agree about wanting a level of romance that is probably something only humans can share, as it's a human concept, and thus feeling like something is missing. it's definitely something one has to come to terms with. i've found certain ways to enjoy my time with my dogs that are satisfying in a romantic sort of way, like.. my girl is really cuddly, so we often sit on the couch and i just pet her and squeeze her and she loves it. but not all breeds enjoy that, either (my girl is a mastiff). what i find romantic i'm not sure any non-human appreciates (kissing with lips more than tongues).

being zoo exclusive definitely can have downsides.
 
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