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Gun Ownership - NO politics, just "Do you or do you not own a firearm"

Do you legally own a firearm of any kind?

  • I own one or more firearms, and am an American

    Votes: 443 55.5%

  • I own NO firearms, and am an American

    Votes: 125 15.7%

  • I own one or more firearms, and am other than American (Feel free to specify Citizenship)

    Votes: 82 10.3%

  • I own NO firearms, and am other than American (Feel free to specify Citizenship)

    Votes: 120 15.0%

  • I am not legally able to own a firearm (Feel free to specify reason)

    Votes: 28 3.5%
  • Total voters
    798
UR20Z said:
<heheheh> Yep, that's it exactly. So far as I know, there are only 7 *REAL-WORLD* (as opposed to pure bullshit media/anti-gun hype) firing modes:

Single-shot = one trigger pull makes one bang, then manually reload the weapon before you can shoot again. EVERY muzzle-loader is a single-shot gun. There are also a good number of (reasonably-)modern breech-loaders that are single-shot.

Semi-auto = one trigger pull makes one bang. Repeat until magazine is empty, you have a round fail to fire, or have a mechanical failure of some type. Then either reload, manually cycle the action, or fix the malfunction (if possible) before you can start firing again.

Single-action revolver = Pull back hammer, pull trigger. One bang. Repeat as many times as there are holes in the cylinder, then reload. A very few, very old, very scarce nowdays models may require manually rotating the cylinder between shots.

Double-action revolver = Pull the trigger, get one bang. Pull it again. One bang. And again. One bang. Repeat until you run out of whatever capacity your cylinder has. Reload and start again.

Burst mode = one trigger pull makes <insert round count that particular gun is set up to produce> bangs. Repeat until mag is empty, reload.

Full-auto = One trigger pull-then-hold goes bang over and over again until the trigger is released, the magazine runs dry, or a mechanical failure (perhaps you've shot so many rounds the barrel melts...) or similar issue stops the fire/eject/load/fire cycle.

Continuous fire = Gatling gun, the A-10 Warthog's GAU-8 Avenger, the M-134 Minigun (AKA "The gun Jesse Ventura's character uses in the movie Predator") etc - Hit the switch or turn the crank - it keeps firing until you stop turning the crank, release the switch, the ammo supply is gone, or there's some sort of mechanical failure, whichever comes first.
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Luckily cranks still count as semi auto - you have to manually active the crank per shot. :)
 
Damn 4473 got me paranoid though, ever seen what happened in Red Dawn? I tell you, those forms are a very bad idea.

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Pillar said:
Damn 4475 got me paranoid though, ever seen what happened in Red Dawn? I tell you, those forms are a very bad idea.
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That's why you need to have an unfortunate boating accident not long after you take possession... It's a shame how poorly most firearms float. :)
 
Pillar said:
80 percent lowers are kinda moot if you used your credit card to buy one. :censored:
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Not really - In the eyes of the law, an 80% lower isn't a gun, and as such, it gets basically ignored in the commerce stream. It can BECOME a gun, but until it's finished, so what? A rubber band, piece of hollow tubing, and a nail *CAN* become a gun, too. How much do the feds (or anybody else) care about rubber bands, tubing, and nails? Until the milling work needed to complete one is done, an 80% lower is nothing but a funny-shaped paperweight. It's just a chunk of metal (or nowdays, plastic) with a slightly odd shape. So is the main body of a carburetor, or a brake caliper As such, they get roughly the same amount of scrutiny, and monitored about as closely as a six-pack of Dr. Pepper. And with the prices being what they are (Depends on exactly where you source it, but based on the small amount of looking I've done, the MONEY price is cheap - $51.99 (plus sales tax and and shipping, of course) will put one on your doorstep, and that's just grabbing the first result I got back on a google search for "AR 80% lower price" without bothering to do anything even a little like comparison shopping.
 
I am from Pakistan.
Own one12 gauge pump action shotgun made by daudsons armoury,2 tokarevs one is original Russian and other is local darra made from Soviet tank metal,one Enfield revolver 38 bore original England made,one double barrel shotgun local darra made, 1 fully automatic ak47 Soviet Union made,1 heckler and cock G3 fully aumomatic rifle used by pakistan army and was made by Pakistan ordinance factories under license by H&K Germany.
 
dogfuck1900 said:
I am from Pakistan.
Own one12 gauge pump action shotgun made by daudsons armoury,2 tokarevs one is original Russian and other is local darra made from Soviet tank metal,one Enfield revolver 38 bore original England made,one double barrel shotgun local darra made, 1 fully automatic ak47 Soviet Union made,1 heckler and cock G3 fully aumomatic rifle used by pakistan army and was made by Pakistan ordinance factories under license by H&K Germany.
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I heard about how all you need is an license in Pakistan to pretty much buy any kind of small arm under the sun. Granted, I also hear they're hard to get if you're not Pakistani.

Some of the arms readily available in Pakistan make America look second class in comparison. Over here we're mainly restricted to semi automatics only without licensing. :(
 
Pillar said:
I heard about how all you need is an license in Pakistan to pretty much buy any kind of small arm under the sun. Granted, I also hear they're hard to get if you're not Pakistani.

Some of the arms readily available in Pakistan make America look second class in comparison. Over here we're mainly restricted to semi automatics only without licensing. :(
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We don’t live in a practical war zone either.
if we lived in constant threat of death and war things would be different.
 
Pillar said:
I heard about how all you need is an license in Pakistan to pretty much buy any kind of small arm under the sun. Granted, I also hear they're hard to get if you're not Pakistani.

Some of the arms readily available in Pakistan make America look second class in comparison. Over here we're mainly restricted to semi automatics only without licensing. :(
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No actually that's not true . You need separate license for each small fire arm. But in tribal areas near the afghan border , in northern areas and in most parts of baluchistan province you don't need any kind of license. You can even own a rocket launcher ,grenades and anti aircraft guns. The reason being is that's the culture of those tribal areas ,they need guns to survive in those harsh terrains and to protect themselves from foreign Invaders and other tribal enemies. Hospitality and enmity is famous in those pakhtun and baluch tribes. Over the course of history they were invaded by one foreign Invader after another i.e the ancient Greeks,English,Russians and recently americans. The reason behind that is the geo political position in that region. They developed their own methods of making arms to defend themselves and for generations they are making arms and ammunitions in small workshops ,homes etc. They copy and clone every small weapon in the world. Some cheap clones are mediocre quality but if willing to pay more some ones are really good ones almost close to the original. Some are not copies but their own hybrid inventions. A local made copy of fully auto AK costs $150. Mostly they are handmade.
Roughly all pakistanis use local made weapons because few afford to pay much more for the original imported ones.
Posting some video links to show you what I am talking about.
https://youtu.be/tAWA9Um2MmY
Bloodwolf said:
We don’t live in a practical war zone either.
if we lived in constant threat of death and war things would be different.
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We are not living in a war zone either. Since 2014 things are normal here.
 
dogfuck1900 said:
No actually that's not true . You need separate license for each small fire arm. But in tribal areas near the afghan border , in northern areas and in most parts of baluchistan province you don't need any kind of license. You can even own a rocket launcher ,grenades and anti aircraft guns. The reason being is that's the culture of those tribal areas ,they need guns to survive in those harsh terrains and to protect themselves from foreign Invaders and other tribal enemies. Hospitality and enmity is famous in those pakhtun and baluch tribes. Over the course of history they were invaded by one foreign Invader after another i.e the ancient Greeks,English,Russians and recently americans. The reason behind that is the geo political position in that region. They developed their own methods of making arms to defend themselves and for generations they are making arms and ammunitions in small workshops ,homes etc. They copy and clone every small weapon in the world. Some cheap clones are mediocre quality but if willing to pay more some ones are really good ones almost close to the original. Some are not copies but their own hybrid inventions. A local made copy of fully auto AK costs $150. Mostly they are handmade.
Roughly all pakistanis use local made weapons because few afford to pay much more for the original imported ones.
Posting some video links to show you what I am talking about.
https://youtu.be/tAWA9Um2MmY

We are not living in a war zone either. Since 2014 things are normal here.
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That’s good to know. At least things are stabilized in some Middle East areas.
 
i owned a .38 S&W pre victory model still own a .22 enfield rifle, a 1875 7mm pinfire revolver, a .22 revolver in black powder short rifle. where i live they class wall hangers real guns too, i own the deactivated .38 S&W (1st in the list) a .303 Brengun, 2x Mosin Nagant, Enfield rifle that dry fires.... i love them all as little works of art, i do hope i can shoot again soon as i miss it.
 
dogfuck1900 said:
Lol you Americans need to take some geography classes. Pakistan is not in the middle east.
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Where exactly is Pakistan then? The only thing I know geographically about Pakistan is that it is next to India.

Bloodwolf said:
We don’t live in a practical war zone either.
if we lived in constant threat of death and war things would be different.
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If this was a war zone here I would've left long ago. I'm not looking to die anytime soon anymore.

I was just saying I wished Class III weapons weren't so heavily regulated, because the crooks here never needed government permission to get theirs.


dogfuck1900 said:
No actually that's not true . You need separate license for each small fire arm. But in tribal areas near the afghan border , in northern areas and in most parts of baluchistan province you don't need any kind of license. You can even own a rocket launcher ,grenades and anti aircraft guns. The reason being is that's the culture of those tribal areas ,they need guns to survive in those harsh terrains and to protect themselves from foreign Invaders and other tribal enemies. Hospitality and enmity is famous in those pakhtun and baluch tribes. Over the course of history they were invaded by one foreign Invader after another i.e the ancient Greeks,English,Russians and recently americans. The reason behind that is the geo political position in that region. They developed their own methods of making arms to defend themselves and for generations they are making arms and ammunitions in small workshops ,homes etc. They copy and clone every small weapon in the world. Some cheap clones are mediocre quality but if willing to pay more some ones are really good ones almost close to the original. Some are not copies but their own hybrid inventions. A local made copy of fully auto AK costs $150. Mostly they are handmade.
Roughly all pakistanis use local made weapons because few afford to pay much more for the original imported ones.
Posting some video links to show you what I am talking about.
https://youtu.be/tAWA9Um2MmY

We are not living in a war zone either. Since 2014 things are normal here.
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Thank you for the informative response. :) (y)
 
Pillar said:
A 9mm is always better than a .22 for defense.
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Watch this video by a fellow often called "the Gunfather of YouTube". If this man has *EVER* said anything that wasn't dead-on right (and often QUITE amusing in the WAY he says it) I haven't encountered it yet.
 
@UR20Z

Here's why 80 percent lowers aren't foolproof when purchased online:

townhall.com

Despite Restraining Order, ATF Raids Ares Armor Over Plastic Parts

Last week Ares Armor, a company that sells firearms parts in San Diego, obtained a restraining order against the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.
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www.nbcsandiego.com

Gun Owner Info Seized in ATF Raid in San Diego: Store CEO

Some San Diego-area gun owners are concerned about federal agents taking their personal information in a weekend raid on a gun parts store.
www.nbcsandiego.com www.nbcsandiego.com
 
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