Thanks for thought out response. Certainly was a bit aggressive overall in hindsight. But I don't see why you should accept that you are talking to catfish just because it's online.
It's less about accepting it and more about expecting it. On the internet people can lie. If people CAN do something, some of them certainly WILL. That's a truth that was already known even when the internet wasn't a common household item yet.
Here's a cartoon from the fifth of july, 1993 showcasing it:
It's a vulnerable topic and it does not matter if a man or woman talks. Just that they aren't lieing constantly. It's not called Storyville? How do you form online community built on lies.
Pretty easily actually. Happens all the time online, for the better or the worse...
You insinuate alot here when a person just wants not to be lied to. I dont like lies in person or online.
Me neither. All I'm saying is, it happens. Forcing people to verify their identity won't change that. I mean, we even lie to websites and service providers now, ever since geoblocking was around and people felt the need to use VPNs to circumvent them.
I'm not sure what you are trying to say.
Then let me be clear: Don't give out personal information to strangers, don't be voluntarily vulnerable and expect to talk to a person of nondescript sex until proven otherwise. Of course people can tell you things and you have to decide for yourself if you want to believe these things or not, but in the end, they may lie and you would be better off if you expected this to happen than being shocked and surprised when you find out it happened.
Internet means you can lie. Very strange argument to me.
Not to most people who use the internet for about three decades now. On the internet people may lie. They don't necessarily have to, but they can and some of them will. Blindly trusting people to tell the truth is like blindly trusting a Nigerian prince to send you a few million dollars or pounds for money-laundering reasons, where you can keep part of that sum, if only you were to make a teeny, tiny deposit first to show you are trustworthy... Blind trust on the internet is a pretty dangerous game to play.
Very wrong assumption to, said like you know of intent.
I don't know. I CAN'T know. And neither CAN you. That's my point. Even if someone tells you "trust me, bro!", can you really trust them? Especially if you never met that person before? How would that work?
it's a poor way to argue. Community of misunderstood people I wanted to enter it's not like can feeling accepted elsewhere. But if your lied to ......how is this even a discussion
It's less about a discussion and more about a cautionary tale. Like I said, not everybody lies. Not everybody intents to lie. Not everybody cares to lie. But some people will. That's why you, in general, should take everything said to you with a grain of salt, especially if it sounds to be too good to be true, because in most cases this means it certainly is.
Sorry if I'm wrong but catfishes will defend catfish.
Thanks for the unnecessary namecalling. I never catfished in my life. And I never will. I find that concept rather strange personally and couldn't even begin to comprehend what I would get out of that practice. But if this is how you want this conversation to go, fine, be my guest. Believe everything everybody ever tells you on the internet, because people are sooo good at heart and never would intentionally hurt and deceive others for some weird gain. See where that attitude will take you.
If you cannot have emotional intelligence to see harm that could happen to someone else through fake online life I can't be bothered with you
Funny for you to assume I have no emotional intelligence while I just tried to tell you that on the internet everybody can lie, which is no defense of liars at all and was just meant to protect you from potential harm.
You remind me of one furry guy I once ran into. He read my profile on a furry forum and hit me up on telegram, he talked to me, well, he wrote me, later we talked via teamspeak, as he wanted to voice and didn't have discord yet. Later he made weird innuendos and suddenly expected me to send him dick pics of me. I refused to do so, due to the nature of this weird request. He interpreted my refusal as proof that I was catfishing him. He assumed I was a girl (I'm not, I'm a guy) an just lied to him due to wanting to abuse him. I asked him what he was on and what he was talking about. He even heard my voice over teamspeak, to which he assumed I used a voice modulator. When I asked him, why I would jump through so many hoops just to deceive him, he came up with weird conspiracy theories and asked me, why his last online boyfriend who turned out to be a girl would deceive him. I told him that I couldn't even begin to comprehend her motives and we had a lengthy conversation over this topic. I thought about to send him to ask a few furries I know iRL for decades know to confirm my sex for him, but then again I decided against it, because it wasn't worth it to pull more people into that mess. In the end that guy asked if I would at least consider to create a club or pact with him, an inner circle where we would only allow people inside who had proven that they were trustworthy.
Not gonna lie, that dude had a childlike mentality when it came to stuff like this and pretty weird hangups due to one girl pretenting online to be a guy to him.
In the end, he put himself in the position to get deceived by not comprehending how someone might lie to him, which led to him lashing out against anyone who wasn't comfortable with having to prove who they were. (That's the part that reminds me of you right now.)
So, I still implore you to be a bit more rational and try to understand that I don't defend liars and deceivers and just intend for you to be more skeptical about others in general, WITHOUT lashing out at them for not wanting to share certain pieces of information.