Der.Zoomer
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
Wish I could see a few pics of her and her bits.
Dolphins (Cetaceans)
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CetaceanLover23
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
I understand, but that won't happen. At least for now.
ReinhardRausweich
Tourist
And why?
CetaceanLover23
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
Because she is easily identifiable. And I have every right not to share photos or videos of her.
Der.Zoomer
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
Well too bad, but thats your decision... not even sharing to people like me, where you know they dont share it with others...
CetaceanLover23
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
I know. Sorry bud.
CetaceanLover23
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
I should note the penetration picture is indeed fake unfortunately . I spoke with the guy who created this photoshop masterpiece and I have to say, I was fooled.
Der.Zoomer
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
What makes it even more sad that I invited you to my place, so you could get everything from me and now you just left with questionable reasons.
TursiopsTruncatus
Tourist
It's a pretty good fake, yeah. There's been a couple other faked dolphin pics in the past too.
Sexystallion
Tourist
Same here
Sexystallion
Tourist
I am sorry to break your bubble there, but dolphins are actually much safer (and happier) in parks than in the seas. With all the lack of food for marine mammals, miles long fishing nets, plastic pollution and oil spills, soon there will not be any more cetacean in the seas. Sadly, nobody seems to car about this. But when it comes to a "poor" dolphin in a park, then people are ready to jump on the bandwagon. There is a good comics that exactly resume this situation which was recently published (see attached).
Don't get me wrong, I love dolphins and have also lot of experiences with them as well, which i can't talk about much on here though. I like also to see them in the seas jumping around and all. But I just wanted to point out that right now, with the way our planet is going, they are MUCH safer in parks (in serious parks who take real care of them. Not talking about the crappy Chinese, European or Russian parks that keep their animals in poor condition).
But anyway, I don't wanted to start a drama. I just wanted ti give my two cents into a important subject.
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Sexystallion
Tourist
Yup I was aware it was fake as well. People tend to easily believe in something they hope to see, when finally they see it, even if fake.
Sexystallion
Tourist
From what I heard, that's also exactly how that personal Dolph's video leaked. He truested someone who said he will never share them, but this someone then got betrayed by other friends who steal the material from said friend laptop, and then posted the whole thing on the net.
So, no matter how trustful someone claim to be, or you think he/she is, the best way to avoid your material to leak all over the internet, is to NEVER share anything with anyone. Enjoy what you have, share the experience with story if you like, but keep your material for you eyes (or computer) only.
Wrongkindoflove
Tourist
I have always signed up to swim with dolphins while at sunny destinations and they we're canceled everytime due to rough water.... I have my fingers crossed for good weather as I'm headed to a group of islands in the USA where I'm hoping to meet some I'd love to just be around them and swim the visit is going to be too short to build up the trust to try anything sexual.
Wrongkindoflove
Tourist
And hold the cameraThe amount of coordination necessary...
Wrongkindoflove
Tourist
I have had sex with women in water and often said to myself why does water make it dry.... Would it be the same with a dolphin or do they have more or natural lubricant that works in water?
Der.Zoomer
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
From what I heard, that's also exactly how that personal Dolph's video leaked. He truested someone who said he will never share them, but this someone then got betrayed by other friends who steal the material from said friend laptop, and then posted the whole thing on the net.
So, no matter how trustful someone claim to be, or you think he/she is, the best way to avoid your material to leak all over the internet, is to NEVER share anything with anyone. Enjoy what you have, share the experience with story if you like, but keep your material for you eyes (or computer) only.
So true, never trust a human.
Every dog is more trustworthy.
Truer Words Have NEVER Been Spoken!
I don't think dolphins are happier in the artificial environment of captivity. The enclosures that captive dolphins live in are like dolphin prisons. Dolphins become neurotic going around the same enclosure their whole lives (versus the thousands of miles / kilometers they would travel in the wild).
TursiopsTruncatus
Tourist
Certainly possible. It does seem to affect some more than others. The facility itself also matters a lot. The enrichment programs at different parks are definitely important. And switching up which tanks they're in may also help. But there's to many variables on what can contribute or detract from quality of life in a broad statement.
CetaceanLover23
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
No offense, but saying that dolphins are happier in captivity than the wild is the biggest horse shit I’ve ever heard. And I watched a Republican National debate one time.
SevenThePotato
Tourist
Firstly, that's a hilarious comeback.
Secondly, I have no experience with cetaceans, yet as always I'm stuck logically in the middle of the road once again. On the one hand, being in captivity that is a fraction of the natural range and contains practically no variety is a surefire way to make any living creature (at the very least the intelligent ones) go insane. Obviously that's garbage, and we can all agree on that.
However, that fella brings up some interesting points. Safetywise, a park that is constantly under human supervision, a tank that contains only dolphins with or without harmless fish or other animals, and a guaranteed source of food seems like a great safety net to have. A dolphin in captivity would never want in regards to their base survival needs. Indeed, with all that clean water pollution or trash would also not be an issue.
Of course, all animals in captivity tend to have shorter lifespans, and cetaceans are no exception. Whether this is because of diseases, inactivity, or depression seems difficult to say, but for an intelligent species with large migrations, it could easily be a combination of these factors. With this, the safety of survival is traded for the danger of a zoo.
I don't think it would be impossible to keep a dolphin happy in captivity. Sufficiently enriching activities, a much larger and more diverse holding area, and a large variety of food might be enough to keep them from slipping into depression. But, of course, nothing that could be made by humans could hold a candle to the majesty of the wide open ocean.
batty_hyena
Lurker
There was a video of a man mating with a dolphin?
Oily
Zooville Settler
There's no need to be in the middle. There is overwhelming suggestion, even beyond that which you know, that captivity is a slow death. The way things have evolved is antithetical to the premise of having all needs met to their desire. You can draw examples from pretty much anywhere to see. To live is to suffer to some degree. The stress of a life in the wild might just be what the body needs to keep fit, because it still is survival of the fittest.
Sexystallion
Tourist
No hard feeling here, just stating the fact: For someone who claim to love dolphins, I think you need to start being more educated about them and the reality they face everyday in the seas, instead of attacking parks who actually do their best to make them happy and healthy (the good professional facilities, not the crappy ones of course, which I love to help closing down).
Fact is that, one-third of all marine mammals are facing extinction. The oceans are increasingly unhealthy. Dolphins living off the Atlantic coast are less healthy than those living in human care, and are getting even sicker from pollution. Whales off the Pacific coast die from ship strikes and malnutrition, and 83% of endangered North Atlantic right whales are being entangled in fishing gear. Noise pollution in the ocean is endangering marine life, and conservationists rely on the results of hearing studies conducted in aquariums to inform conservation policy.
The future will not be positive if we stop learning from marine mammals in human care, when these learnings are driving conservation solutions to protect them. Just as the future health of children and communities is endangered by the anti-vaccine movement, so too is the future for marine mammals if we "empty the tanks".
For your info and to break any myth people believe in:
Recent peer-reviewed, published, scientific research shows that:
--Dolphins in accredited facilities live as long as their ocean counterparts, and in many cases longer, thanks to high-quality food, professional veterinary care, and constant play and exercise to keep them mentally and physically healthy.
--Stress levels of dolphins in human care – measured by the level of their cortisol hormone – are equal or lower than in wild dolphins.
--Wild dolphins have more compromised immune systems than those in human care.
So, stop watching "free willy" & "Black fish" style movies and instead read real scientific research papers. Here are some good example:
UK porpoise calves exposed to chemical pollutants in mothers' milk
Scientists found the most persistent toxins remain in the harbour porpoise mother’s body until they are passed on to their babies through lactation.
www.sciencefocus.com
Science | AAAS
www.sciencemag.org
Microplastics found in the stomach and intestines of Arctic belugas harvested for food | The Narwhal
In the North, where food prices are notoriously high, beluga whales are a staple community resource
thenarwhal.ca
Oh and btw about the case of Keiko, the killer whale who starred in the 1993 film "Free Willy". It took $23 million dollars to get him released back into the waters off of Iceland where he was collected as a young calf. Yet, this release is not considered to be successful, due to the fact that Keiko never fully reintegrated into a wild pod with all interactions between him and every wild pod he encountered often ended with the animals getting too aggressive towards him. From there, Keiko who was still dependent on humans for survival swam to the coast of Norway where he allowed kids to swim with him, and even ride on his back for fun. Official cause of the death was that he died of pneumonia. Non-official reason was that he was killed by local fisherman who didn't liked the "competition". This was back in 2003. How I know ?... Well I was involved in the whole thing. But not telling more on here to keep my identity private. Just showing you (and other readers) that I know what I am talking about, for being involved in the marine mammals field as well.
Alright, now back to porn! ?
TursiopsTruncatus
Tourist
Yeah. I read a lot about the release efforts for Keiko. A bit of a sad story, honestly. Definitely not a successful reintegration. Despite the efforts to do so. The intentions were nice, sure. But reintegration can be rather tough sometimes. It doesn't always work out. Especially those that were either born in captivity or were captured at a young age.No hard feeling here, just stating the fact: For someone who claim to love dolphins, I think you need to start being more educated about them and the reality they face everyday in the seas, instead of attacking parks who actually do their best to make them happy and healthy (the good professional facilities, not the crappy ones of course, which I love to help closing down).
Fact is that, one-third of all marine mammals are facing extinction. The oceans are increasingly unhealthy. Dolphins living off the Atlantic coast are less healthy than those living in human care, and are getting even sicker from pollution. Whales off the Pacific coast die from ship strikes and malnutrition, and 83% of endangered North Atlantic right whales are being entangled in fishing gear. Noise pollution in the ocean is endangering marine life, and conservationists rely on the results of hearing studies conducted in aquariums to inform conservation policy.
The future will not be positive if we stop learning from marine mammals in human care, when these learnings are driving conservation solutions to protect them. Just as the future health of children and communities is endangered by the anti-vaccine movement, so too is the future for marine mammals if we "empty the tanks".
For your info and to break any myth people believe in:
Recent peer-reviewed, published, scientific research shows that:
--Dolphins in accredited facilities live as long as their ocean counterparts, and in many cases longer, thanks to high-quality food, professional veterinary care, and constant play and exercise to keep them mentally and physically healthy.
--Stress levels of dolphins in human care – measured by the level of their cortisol hormone – are equal or lower than in wild dolphins.
--Wild dolphins have more compromised immune systems than those in human care.
So, stop watching "free willy" & "Black fish" style movies and instead read real scientific research papers. Here are some good example:
UK porpoise calves exposed to chemical pollutants in mothers' milk
Scientists found the most persistent toxins remain in the harbour porpoise mother’s body until they are passed on to their babies through lactation.Science | AAAS
Microplastics found in the stomach and intestines of Arctic belugas harvested for food | The Narwhal
In the North, where food prices are notoriously high, beluga whales are a staple community resource
Oh and btw about the case of Keiko, the killer whale who starred in the 1993 film "Free Willy". It took $23 million dollars to get him released back into the waters off of Iceland where he was collected as a young calf. Yet, this release is not considered to be successful, due to the fact that Keiko never fully reintegrated into a wild pod with all interactions between him and every wild pod he encountered often ended with the animals getting too aggressive towards him. From there, Keiko who was still dependent on humans for survival swam to the coast of Norway where he allowed kids to swim with him, and even ride on his back for fun. Official cause of the death was that he died of pneumonia. Non-official reason was that he was killed by local fisherman who didn't liked the "competition". This was back in 2003. How I know ?... Well I was involved in the whole thing. But not telling more on here to keep my identity private. Just showing you (and other readers) that I know what I am talking about, for being involved in the marine mammals field as well.
Alright, now back to porn! ?
There can be all sorts of arguments as to whether keeping cetaceans in captivity is justified or not can be argued ad nauseum. Both have their particular merits. In captivity though, there should be good efforts to have a large enough space to swim in with enrichment objects and environments to make it less bland. Some places do this better than others.
Oily
Zooville Settler
None of the linked articles reinforce what you just claimed, why is that?
CritterFunatic
Citizen of Zooville
Oh, so Dolph found out who the weak link was? I always thought he never knew.From what I heard, that's also exactly how that personal Dolph's video leaked. He truested someone who said he will never share them, but this someone then got betrayed by other friends who steal the material from said friend laptop, and then posted the whole thing on the net.
So, no matter how trustful someone claim to be, or you think he/she is, the best way to avoid your material to leak all over the internet, is to NEVER share anything with anyone. Enjoy what you have, share the experience with story if you like, but keep your material for you eyes (or computer) only.
Sexystallion
Tourist
Yup, this was a huge thing at the time, and lot investigations have been done by Dolph and all his friends, including myself. I believe that they even found out about the name of the person who leaked the file. He was also a furry apparently. Not sure if that was published somewhere or not though, or if that guy is even still around now, or got lynched away and is hiding in a cave of shame now or something.