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Dog sperm as a way to prevent unwanted pregnancy in women.

i am just telling it as it is and if you are hurt you can go back to your safe space
No, you're not. You pushing your delusional masturbation fantasy as a plausible reality, when it's about as fucking far from that as it can possible be. And the more you get told it's a hoseshit delusion, the more you dig down. MY safespace is ignoring your stupid ass so I no longer have to see your incredibly stupid and highly delusional ideas or the way you dig down everytime you get told no.

It's cool. STAY as fucking ignorant as you want. Makes zero difference to me. I won't be seeing anymore of your stupidity unless I choose to make myself fucking dumber by reading it.

Again, and for the final time, later, stupid. Enjoy your time here. But don't be surprised when anyone with a brain calls you out for being an ignorant and delusional nitwit.
 
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No, you're not. You pushing your delusional masturbation fantasy as a plausible reality, when it's about as fucking far from that as it can possible be.
my god, angry people do have lower IQ ------- how is it dellusional if even ally told you "objectivly scientific it MAY BE as a contrcaptive"
words dogdaddy read the words
 
a lot of bullshit overhere, especialy the one who started it....
why bullshit? someone here explained that dog sperm does not activate human eggs and by that killing them but according to her explanation if there would be an animal with ZP2 (what humans have) it might activate an egg and act as a contracaptive and probebly better then the chemical pills we use today
 
Wow 5 pages of this stuff, I read the OP post and skipped most the rest so am probably repeating others comments, but there is no possible way dog sperm is entering a human egg without the use of a pipette injecting it in. Large quantities may be a factor if it impedes the human sperms ability to reach the egg somehow, or dogs have hunter-killer sperm which exists in some species that attacks other sperm of a competing male. But even then if the dog has such sperm would it recognise human sperm as the enemy and go after it.

It all just sounds very odd to me, but the chances of it having anything to do with a dog sperm getting into the egg is 0.0%. The lock and key don't match each other.
 
Wow 5 pages of this stuff, I read the OP post and skipped most the rest so am probably repeating others comments, but there is no possible way dog sperm is entering a human egg without the use of a pipette injecting it in. Large quantities may be a factor if it impedes the human sperms ability to reach the egg somehow, or dogs have hunter-killer sperm which exists in some species that attacks other sperm of a competing male. But even then if the dog has such sperm would it recognise human sperm as the enemy and go after it.

It all just sounds very odd to me, but the chances of it having anything to do with a dog sperm getting into the egg is 0.0%. The lock and key don't match each other.
but what if there was an animal sperm who has the key (ZP2) - it could act as an contracptive
 
@amorousdog5
yes, no contradiction there because i wasnt insisting on it the moment I saw i can find what i previously read so i retracted it and kept discussing the idea itself without my first statment about the egg and sperm
Oh, fantastic. Then you completely agree that nobody should be attempting to use dog semen for contraception until it's been proven effective with scientific research?
 
but what if there was an animal sperm who has the key (ZP2) - it could act as an contracptive
Find that animal, then we'll talk. But keep in mind that not even every human sperm that gets to the egg will be able to get in.

For all we know without actual research on the subject (like that is ever going to happen) It might just be a traffic jam around the egg that the human sperm get stuck in. After all the egg probablly looks like a huge ball to the dog sperm and they are all waiting for someone to throw it, so they can chase it. :gsd_wink:

Yes that was a joke, but nothing discussed in this thread can be taken seriously without actual science being done in the lab to prove what if anything is actually stopping human conception happening. We don't even know if the OP's female partner is capable of having children in the first place, dog semen may have nothing to do with anything what so ever. And someone else stated earlier in the thread that their partner got pregnant despite having regular canine sex. So nobody should be relying entirely on dog sperm to stop a human conceiving even if there is something going on that has a contraceptive effect with dog sperm.

But I guess I have been having sex with dogs for many many years and I haven't got pregnant yet, so maybe... Mind you I am male so that might have some minor effect on the results, who knows.
 
Find that animal, then we'll talk. But keep in mind that not even every human sperm that gets to the egg will be able to get in.

For all we know without actual research on the subject (like that is ever going to happen) It might just be a traffic jam around the egg that the human sperm get stuck in. After all the egg probablly looks like a huge ball to the dog sperm and they are all waiting for someone to throw it, so they can chase it. :gsd_wink:

Yes that was a joke, but nothing discussed in this thread can be taken seriously without actual science being done in the lab to prove what if anything is actually stopping human conception happening. We don't even know if the OP's female partner is capable of having children in the first place, dog semen may have nothing to do with anything what so ever. And someone else stated earlier in the thread that their partner got pregnant despite having regular canine sex. So nobody should be relying entirely on dog sperm to stop a human conceiving even if there is something going on that has a contraceptive effect with dog sperm.

But I guess I have been having sex with dogs for many many years and I haven't got pregnant yet, so maybe... Mind you I am male so that might have some minor effect on the results, who knows.
loved the jokes, you have healthy sense of humor

well the interesting part is knowing how much dog cum can prevent contraception just because it flooded the vagina and "jamming" the way

and yes - obviously one incident of a person does not tell nothing the same as the incident of the guy whos girlfriend did get pregnant does not tell everything


the interesting part for me is about an animal who do have ZP2 ---- because if it does unlock the egg, and starts the process but fails because of different DNA that could probebly be safter contraceptive then the chemical pills we have today that are filled with side effects
 
See folks? If you squeeze hard enough, you can squeeze the stupid right out of them. And with that, I'm out!
I never said from the start to do it I was just discussing it ---- maybe you are allergic to dogcock it seems to hurt your brain cells
 
My wife can be proof of the effectiveness of this. She's been doing this for a year and hasn't gotten pregnant yet. Our mutual friend. She has been living with us for half a year and uses this method. Both ladies fuck dogs regularly. We also do orgies with lots of guys who fuck my ladies without condoms and flood them with cum. We also did fertility tests on both ladies. Both ladies are fertile and would have no problem getting pregnant.
Me and my girlfriend used plan b for 2 years, and it worked until it didn't. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
loved the jokes, you have healthy sense of humor

well the interesting part is knowing how much dog cum can prevent contraception just because it flooded the vagina and "jamming" the way

and yes - obviously one incident of a person does not tell nothing the same as the incident of the guy whos girlfriend did get pregnant does not tell everything


the interesting part for me is about an animal who do have ZP2 ---- because if it does unlock the egg, and starts the process but fails because of different DNA that could probebly be safter contraceptive then the chemical pills we have today that are filled with side effects
Wonderful, I'm sure all the dogs of the world can now secure plenty of humpies for the rest of their life if they want it. Ah, but wait... how do you plan to get the great news out to all the girls that rather than taking a pill, they just need to find a willing canine to fill them up with puppy juice? (which actually sounds far more appealing to me.) Perhaps Radio, or a TV spot, maybe a megaphone on a mountain top.

Whether it works as a contraceptive or not is only half the issue if you're talking about replacing the contraceptive pill, you need the idea of something based upon canine semen being palatable to the woman who might want to use it. And I'm not talking about the taste, I'm almost completely sure swallowing dog sperm will most certainly not have the desired result unless you are after a tasty treat.

The ethics barrier to research into this would be a nightmare to any overseeing body.
You also need a scientist willing to propose the research in the first place, given it could potentially destroy their professional reputation.
You then need a group of peers willing to verify your results.
Take on big pharma companies who produce the current contraceptive
Convince women that taking the substance will not make them have mutant dog children
And so on. Getting to the point it would be a viable and reliable alternative to the current contraceptive pill is one huge up hill battle.

So this is where I probably should be quoting my fictional countryman Darryl Kerrigan's famous phrase and tell ya you're dreaming.

How much time have I spent in this thread today? That much! Damn can I get a refund, I'm sure I could have spent that precious resource in a far better way. Time to unwatch this thing I think.
 
my god, angry people do have lower IQ ------- how is it dellusional if even ally told you "objectivly scientific it MAY BE as a contrcaptive"
words dogdaddy read the words
lol....

Angry? Is that what you are when you're laughing your ass off at ignorant interweb trolls?

Seriously, like any troll, that's your whole focus in life, irritating and angering people. I'd rather drink my own piss than give you or any other idiot troll like you the satisfaction of making me angry. Instead, I laugh at you, point out the ignorant shit you say, the blatant and obvious examples where you contradict yourself and in general make it apparent to anyone who cares to look that you are just another internet jerkoff wasting everyones time.

If I word things in a way that makes you think I'm mad, that's on you bud, I just say it straight up, how you interpret it is completely irrelevant to me because I seriously doubt you've read anything in any post I've made, with the one exception being you reading into it anger where there isn't any.

You read enough to be able to cherrypick points here and there, but beyond that, anything said to you is just a waste of time and, if it doesn't correlate with your masturbation fantasy, sails completely over your head.
 
Wonderful, I'm sure all the dogs of the world can now secure plenty of humpies for the rest of their life if they want it. Ah, but wait... how do you plan to get the great news out to all the girls that rather than taking a pill, they just need to find a willing canine to fill them up with puppy juice? (which actually sounds far more appealing to me.) Perhaps Radio, or a TV spot, maybe a megaphone on a mountain top.

Whether it works as a contraceptive or not is only half the issue if you're talking about replacing the contraceptive pill, you need the idea of something based upon canine semen being palatable to the woman who might want to use it. And I'm not talking about the taste, I'm almost completely sure swallowing dog sperm will most certainly not have the desired result unless you are after a tasty treat.

The ethics barrier to research into this would be a nightmare to any overseeing body.
You also need a scientist willing to propose the research in the first place, given it could potentially destroy their professional reputation.
You then need a group of peers willing to verify your results.
Take on big pharma companies who produce the current contraceptive
Convince women that taking the substance will not make them have mutant dog children
And so on. Getting to the point it would be a viable and reliable alternative to the current contraceptive pill is one huge up hill battle.

So this is where I probably should be quoting my fictional countryman Darryl Kerrigan's famous phrase and tell ya you're dreaming.

How much time have I spent in this thread today? That much! Damn can I get a refund, I'm sure I could have spent that precious resource in a far better way. Time to unwatch this thing I think.
daam... you went from being funny and nice to being over sarcastic and rude

this is a theoratical conversation --- who said anything about starting a research about this?

1. who said anything about swallowing dog sperm? we were talking about flooding the vagina and obviously we are talking about zooactive people here and not regular people

2. the replacement i was talking about to contraceptives wasnt the dog sperm and not by swallowing --- it was about finding a non human (and far enough geneticly) sperm that has the ZP2 like humans so it can help make eggs waste themsevles by starting a false pregnancy
 
lol....

Angry? Is that what you are when you're laughing your ass off at ignorant interweb trolls?

Seriously, like any troll, that's your whole focus in life, irritating and angering people. I'd rather drink my own piss than give you or any other idiot troll like you the satisfaction of making me angry. Instead, I laugh at you, point out the ignorant shit you say, the blatant and obvious examples where you contradict yourself and in general make it apparent to anyone who cares to look that you are just another internet jerkoff wasting everyones time.

If I word things in a way that makes you think I'm mad, that's on you bud, I just say it straight up, how you interpret it is completely irrelevant to me because I seriously doubt you've read anything in any post I've made, with the one exception being you reading into it anger where there isn't any.

You read enough to be able to cherrypick points here and there, but beyond that, anything said to you is just a waste of time and, if it doesn't correlate with your masturbation fantasy, sails completely over your head.
1. considering that the only person here who has qualification (allyfitz) said that actually we might have a point --- then you are the ignorant
2. I think you are angry enough already no need for outside influence to piss off people like you
3. I think you already are drinking piss without my influence so maybe the high amount of toxins from the urine is why you are such angry person ?‍♂️
 
Ah, people.
Someone ought to tell you the raw truth some day, so let me do a sock puppet explanation so I can convey the idea.
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Um. I wonder if it would be good to put on the zoo guides section ?
actually we are talking here on 2 possible situations ----- 1. is dog sperm being contraceptive by disturbing the human sperm movement in the vagina (allyfitz acknoledged it is somewhat possible)
2. find a sperm that has ZP2 which will start false pregnancy and waste healthy eggs
 
I'm WELL aware of what she said, and what she HAS been saying. Guessing I've spoken with her directly a bit more than you have.

2 questions for you.......Do you even understand what the phrase objective scientific view means? Do you understand what the word may means?

Objective scientific view mean s not starting with assumptions, any assumptions. The word may implies a *might*, not a fact, a maybe, at best.

What she is saying there, is that she approaches it with an open mind, meaning no starting with the end result and fudging backwards to make the science match the masturbation. It looks a lot to me like you are both trying to misinterpret what she said AND attempting to take issue with what she said, being as you posted an issue with what she said right after you quoted me on the last page.

To sum that up for you in words you can't twist, ..........you're perfectly willing to twist what @allyfitz says to dispute something I, or anyone else has said, and at the same time perfectly willing to take issue with what she said when it isn't a full on endorsement of your delusion. To sum that up in even shorter untwistable terms, talking out of both sides of your mouth.

It is a known scientific fact that members of different species can't breed. This applies to every species I am aware of including humans and chimpanzees, who share a 98% genetic match. At best, you can get breeding between different breeds of the SAME species, like donkeys and horses, and even then, the offspring are genetic dead ends because they are sterile.


When you understand something about the classification system, you'll know something you should already know.

Short answer, when it doesn't match all the way down the line, it's a no go.

The reason humans don't get dog diseases is because virus and bacteria are supremely specialized, same as dogs don't get human diseases.

Sexual, OR asexual reproduction works the same way, highly specialized and highly specific to those animals and those animals alone. No match, no go. Period. No exceptions for your fantasy. Nature does not give a fuck about your wildest dreams.

IF you have some verifiable scientific evidence, produce it. If not, I guess just keep spouting masturbation fantasies and bullshit, it's not like you'll lose any more credibility by doing so, you have none as it is.
Sir I agree with almost all you said. But some very closely related species (not
 
Also horses and donkeys even if their chromosome count does not match

actually we are talking here
What we are talking here is a contraceptive method based on something unproved.

Given a chance in a..whatever. One in two or one in one trillion of that happening:

1 - the chance of that happening (big or small) is enough to refreain from sexing an animal someone expects to get breed... just in case.
2 - The chance of that not happening (big or small) is enough to refrain from using it as contraceptive methode because of the dire consequences of unwanted pregnancies if you are wrong.


Actually I had better hopes of that happening before reading that paper.
I admit I was curious imagining it could happen and how many divisions could take place before decaying, but now I tend to think it just won't happen at all.
 
Dog and human) such as buffalo and cows can hybridize freely with fertile offspring. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovid_hybrid

See also coyote/wolf/dog
Back in school, the definition of species was that they could interbreed and procuce fertile offsprings.

So count that buffalo and cows should end as subspecies of the same species.

It took way too long for science to move Canis familiaris to Canis lupus familiaris, and I count coyote will be the next joining the "lupus" club :)
 
Dog and human) such as buffalo and cows can hybridize freely with fertile offspring. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovid_hybrid

See also coyote/wolf/dog

Also horses and donkeys even if their chromosome count does not match


What we are talking here is a contraceptive method based on something unproved.

Given a chance in a..whatever. One in two or one in one trillion of that happening:

1 - the chance of that happening (big or small) is enough to refreain from sexing an animal someone expects to get breed... just in case.
2 - The chance of that not happening (big or small) is enough to refrain from using it as contraceptive methode because of the dire consequences of unwanted pregnancies if you are wrong.


Actually I had better hopes of that happening before reading that paper.
I admit I was curious imagining it could happen and how many divisions could take place before decaying, but now I tend to think it just won't happen at all.

100% we are talking about possibilities
some people here are just over reacting

one possible situation was about animal semen causing disturbens in human sperm movement which will act as "somewhat" contracaptive (obviously dont know how much) which if i had to guess i think pig sperm could maybe be better due to it being so thick and second option was creating false pregnancy which I will paste something I got from AI chatbot
 
AI chatbot:
Some animals have eggs and sperm that are similar to those of humans in terms of structure, physiology, and genetics. These species are commonly used as models for human reproductive research due to their similarities to humans and their ease of manipulation in a laboratory setting. Some examples include:

  • Primates: Primates, including monkeys and apes, have similar eggs and sperm to those of humans and share many physiological and biochemical similarities. This makes primates good models for the study of human reproduction.
  • Domestic animals: Domestic animals, such as cows, pigs, and sheep, also have similar eggs and sperm to those of humans and share many physiological and biochemical similarities. These animals are commonly used for reproductive research and for the production of transgenic animals.
  • Rodents: Rodents, such as mice and rats, have similar eggs and sperm to those of humans and are commonly used as models for human reproductive research due to their short generation time and easy manipulation.
 
A dog has up to 4 times the amount of sperm it can ejaculate in one mating over a human male. when an incompatible sperm cell such as a dogs meets a human ovum the protein mismatch of the dogs sperm will cause the human ovum protein layer that surrounds it to jell. The volume of sperm cells the dog produces will have a much higher chance of reaching the ovum first, thus preventing the human sperm cell from having the ability to penetrate the ovum. Birth control ? NO, just the dogs sperm in numbers favors reaching it's goal first over the human males.
 
A dog has up to 4 times the amount of sperm it can ejaculate in one mating over a human male. when an incompatible sperm cell such as a dogs meets a human ovum the protein mismatch of the dogs sperm will cause the human ovum protein layer that surrounds it to jell. The volume of sperm cells the dog produces will have a much higher chance of reaching the ovum first, thus preventing the human sperm cell from having the ability to penetrate the ovum. Birth control ? NO, just the dogs sperm in numbers favors reaching it's goal first over the human males.
isnt by causing it to jell it causes it to have lower chances of pregnancy?
and also whats your opinion about pig sperm as something to help disturb the human semen movement
 
isnt by causing it to jell it causes it to have lower chances of pregnancy?
and also whats your opinion about pig sperm as something to help disturb the human semen movement
same as to pig sperm, the proteins are mismatched , if a pigs sperm cell gets to the human ovum first it will prevent the human sperm cell from penetrating the ovum, a dogs nor a pigs sperm can even penetrate a human ovum, so even the >> for a few moments the dog/pig whatever has impregnated a human female is , pure bunk.
 
and even if it could penetrate the human ovum, then you have the chromosome mismatches in numbers of chromosome's and genomes
 
same as to pig sperm, the proteins are mismatched , if a pigs sperm cell gets to the human ovum first it will prevent the human sperm cell from penetrating the ovum, a dogs nor a pigs sperm can even penetrate a human ovum, so even the >> for a few moments the dog/pig whatever has impregnated a human female is , pure bunk.
but the pigs thickness - being extremly thick - can prevent human sperm movment - no? acting like a disturbens because 1. pig ejculates alot 2. its so thick
 
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