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Do all guys think like that?

Furvert810 said:
Okay, I’m going to stop you there. Trying it, does NOT equate to being something. If I tried a drink of alcohol, am I an alcoholic now??

I have zero attraction or desire to be with any male of any species. However, I have tried things with males, thinking maybe I could have such desire or attraction if I tried it. That was not the case. In fact, trying those things with other males of both the same AND other species lessened any inkling of such that I had to begin with.

So again, I say no. Experimenting does NOT instantly make someone gay.
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Nice strawman argument you got there. Alcoholism is NOT the same as homosexuality. Willingly engaging in homosexual acts shows you are, at minimum, find male genitalia attractive.

And your use of one dictionary does not negate the other dictionary definitions of gay. And the fact you're willing to dismiss those other definitions, such as the one found on WordNik, tells me y'all are a bunch of gays that can't accept yourselves as such.

Enjoy your denial because you can't dare to face reality. And they let y'all vote... No wonder we are in so much trouble.
 
I wonder what it’s like to be as stupid and ignorant as pillar…let’s follow his line of logic, shall we?

If you google “definition of gay”, wordnik comes up as result number thirty four. Which is hilarious by itself that that’s his chosen source of truth. Then, add the fact that the link from the google results, screenshot below, defines it:
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Now, click into the link, desperately searching for a line that doesn’t include “people”, “persons” or “men” but NOT FINDING A SINGLE ONE. Then, just switch to the word “homosexual”, since the 1,000 definitions of “gay” all implied human-human relationships. Hmm, “homosexual” says person…ignore…ignore…scroll down…ignore…AHA!!! It says right here that a homosexual is “A person who is attracted solely or primarily to others of the same sex.”

“others” DEFINITELY doesn’t mean “other people”. For sure it means “other species”. Got ‘em. Those dudes are gay. I win.
 
GoldenGait said:
I wonder what it’s like to be as stupid and ignorant as pillar…let’s follow his line of logic, shall we?

If you google “definition of gay”, wordnik comes up as result number thirty four. Which is hilarious by itself that that’s his chosen source of truth. Then, add the fact that the link from the google results, screenshot below, defines it:
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Now, click into the link, desperately searching for a line that doesn’t include “people”, “persons” or “men” but NOT FINDING A SINGLE ONE. Then, just switch to the word “homosexual”, since the 1,000 definitions of “gay” all implied human-human relationships. Hmm, “homosexual” says person…ignore…ignore…scroll down…ignore…AHA!!! It says right here that a homosexual is “A person who is attracted solely or primarily to others of the same sex.”

“others” DEFINITELY doesn’t mean “other people”. For sure it means “other species”. Got ‘em. Those dudes are gay. I win.
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all i see is someone showing a textbook case of willing obtuseness with a dash of denial....
it's kinda obvious why the traditional definition of "gay" only delves into relations between ppl. and i'm like 90% sure that without fully reading all posts after my original reply there are others who pointed that out too.

not to mention there's also a whole can of worms about "what is a person". what if i see my boy as what would a dictionary define as "a person"? i think there even was a thread about animals and personhood...
 
I think the issue here is that folks are trying to view this as black and white: gay or not. Sexualities exist on spectrums. You can be very into guys or male dogs, or maybe only a little interested in dicks, or perhaps at least curious to try some stuff, or even so opposed that you'd rather not even try it. Heck, you can even be very gay for dogs but very straight for humans. Seeing these things as absolute states will therefore cause problems, because a simple yes or no doesn't accurately describe a persons desires, feelings, and inclinations.
 
nekdoneco123 said:
all i see is someone showing a textbook case of willing obtuseness with a dash of denial....
it's kinda obvious why the traditional definition of "gay" only delves into relations between ppl. and i'm like 90% sure that without fully reading all posts after my original reply there are others who pointed that out too.

not to mention there's also a whole can of worms about "what is a person". what if i see my boy as what would a dictionary define as "a person"? i think there even was a thread about animals and personhood...
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You're on the side of being able to shift, add to or change the definitions of words to include zoosexuals. I'm on the side of not doing that and I think it would be better to come up with new terms. If you see your boy as a person, that's just you living your own fantasy. You're welcome to do that, but you don't get to change the definition of person for everyone else. That's pretty simple, you don't need to bring out your little textbook. What's in there, anyway?

If we're going to add ourselves into the definition of gay, straight, and bisexual...maybe we no longer need words like zoophile (gay, straight, or bi is fine here) or bestiality (it's just sex). Zoo-exclusive can go away, too. It's just a redundant, pointless word...

Matter of fact, I'll just change the definition of the words in your post and read it as if you agree with me! Fair game! Glad we're on the same page!
 
azoogirl said:
Hi all, how do guys minds work?
Once upon a time I had a boyfriend who loved watching his dog getting sloppy blow job's amongst other things.
I said to him one day I'd really enjoy watching him give his dog a blow job too, but he flatly refused, saying he wouldn't because he's not gay.
How can it be gay I argued it's not a man it's a dog and it would really turn me on, but he was having none of it, he wouldn't and never did.
Question..... Do the majority of guy's think it's gay to give a dog a blow job?
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Ok I know some people here are going to be hell bount on arguing because it's a different species but a male sucking the hard and squirting penis of another male is pretty gay. Not gay in a Websters dictionary sense of the word because the people who wrote these definitions didn't have other species or zoosexual preference in mind. That however doesn't change the fact that it's two males engaging in a sexual act. I guess some people need to hear this still. It's okay to have homosexual urges. Being attracted to male animals doesn't change your attraction to something "less gay" than two dudes doing the deed with each other. A penis is a penis. You don't have to feel ashamed about it! Or deny that it is infact gay to have romantic/sexual attractions to a male dog. Regardless of what species your sucking. If you are aroused by it, then you are. If your not your not. You could be 100% straight with human women but if you get hard just looking at a dogs red rocket and want to have sex with them, you are bisexual in the grand scheme of your sexuality as a whole including your zoosexual preference to male dogs. No you may not be bi in the traditional sense, as in, it doesn't mean your gonna go bang a human male but it's still gay for a guy to wanna swallow a dog's cum or let them mount their arsehole. Traditional definitions aside because it's a moot argument when discussing zoosexuality. Let's look at the bigger picture here, Am I wrong?? Is a male dog somehow less male than a human male? Biologically, no. Let's break it down further. They're zoo men out there that attracted to male dogs exclusively. As in no other sexual attraction. Would that not be a homosexual preference with animals? Would it not be straight if they only preferred female animals? Did some of you not expect there to be diversity in our sexual preference just because its directed to a different species? Zoosexual is an unfixed term it doesn't cover what specific sex you are attracted to. It could be both or either or
 
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Randydoggo said:
Traditional definitions aside because it's a moot argument when discussing zoosexuality.
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I really don’t think you can just put the definition aside like that. The main issue that I have here isn’t the fact that I’m embarrassed to admit that I’m gay or bisexual. I’m open about my sexual attraction to dogs…you would think gay would be less embarrassing than that. My issue is the breaking down of the meaning of words. If a man tells the world he’s bisexual, 99.9% of the English speaking population knows what that means. Now, if I tell the world that I’m bisexual using YOUR made up, zoo-inclusive definition, 99.9% of the English speaking population will make an incorrect assumption about my sexual orientation by assuming I have sexual attraction toward men. That’s a problem. Lumping human and animal sexual orientations together into one word that was never intended to be that inclusive creates issues with understanding and makes the word ineffective as a descriptor.
 
GoldenGait said:
I really don’t think you can just put the definition aside like that. The main issue that I have here isn’t the fact that I’m embarrassed to admit that I’m gay or bisexual. I’m open about my sexual attraction to dogs…you would think gay would be less embarrassing than that. My issue is the breaking down of the meaning of words. If a man tells the world he’s bisexual, 99.9% of the English speaking population knows what that means. Now, if I tell the world that I’m bisexual using YOUR made up, zoo-inclusive definition, 99.9% of the English speaking population will make an incorrect assumption about my sexual orientation by assuming I have sexual attraction toward men. That’s a problem. Lumping human and animal sexual orientations together into one word that was never intended to be that inclusive creates issues with understanding and makes the word ineffective as a descriptor.
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See that's the thing I can say whatever I want. Pal. What I think is your too worried about what other people think in general. Oh boohoo miscommunication. I've had people ask my sexuality before I said im bi. That's a half truth. Left it at that. See the thing is I am bi but only attracted to animals. Do you think I want to tell the whole world that detail. Fuck no. Again your argument is moot unless you really think it's a good idea to walk around telling people you fuck animals. Let them be confused or in the dark about that aspect of your sexuality. That's NOT a problem. You being stuck in a jail cell because you outted yourself would be. Right? I really don't see the importance of your argument. Your just picking at straws here because you know everything I said is logically sound.
 
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Randydoggo said:
See that's the thing I can say whatever I want. Pal. What I think is your too worried about what other people think in general. Oh boohoo miscommunication.
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Haha! Yeah, boohoo miscommunication. I’m an idiot for thinking it’s important for people to use words in the way they’re defined instead of in the way they think they should be defined.
 
azoogirl said:
Hi all, how do guys minds work?
Once upon a time I had a boyfriend who loved watching his dog getting sloppy blow job's amongst other things.
I said to him one day I'd really enjoy watching him give his dog a blow job too, but he flatly refused, saying he wouldn't because he's not gay.
How can it be gay I argued it's not a man it's a dog and it would really turn me on, but he was having none of it, he wouldn't and never did.
Question..... Do the majority of guy's think it's gay to give a dog a blow job?
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I totally don't think it, but I can see how some dudes will. Dogs and other other animals are like a totally different sex. And I wish I were your boyfriend then, because not only would I say yes to giving my dog a blowjob, but you can bet your bottom dollar that I'd be teaching him to fuck me in the ass just as often as I could!
 
azoogirl said:
Hi all, how do guys minds work?
Once upon a time I had a boyfriend who loved watching his dog getting sloppy blow job's amongst other things.
I said to him one day I'd really enjoy watching him give his dog a blow job too, but he flatly refused, saying he wouldn't because he's not gay.
How can it be gay I argued it's not a man it's a dog and it would really turn me on, but he was having none of it, he wouldn't and never did.
Question..... Do the majority of guy's think it's gay to give a dog a blow job?
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ive had the same exp when it comes to guys
 
Pillar said:
Nice strawman argument you got there. Alcoholism is NOT the same as homosexuality. Willingly engaging in homosexual acts shows you are, at minimum, find male genitalia attractive.

And your use of one dictionary does not negate the other dictionary definitions of gay. And the fact you're willing to dismiss those other definitions, such as the one found on WordNik, tells me y'all are a bunch of gays that can't accept yourselves as such.

Enjoy your denial because you can't dare to face reality. And they let y'all vote... No wonder we are in so much trouble.
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Why are you so afraid of gays?
 
I know some men who let themselves be fucked by dogs, but are totally against being fucked by another man.
Sex with men doesn't appeal to them at all in any way, but sex with a male dog pleases them.
Are they gay??
 
Ted Danson Machine said:
*edging ever closer to the dumpster fire*
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It went from everyone trying to translate what the OP said. Some disagreement with the OP and each other ensued. Now, it's six pages, with a fuss, now, over what constitutes gayness, with one guy trying to drag everyone out of the closet he suspects to be gay, and he has no idea what he's babbling about.
 
I identify as bi (though I think I could be pan) so I'd do it eventually. I avoid oral because my teeth are sharp and I can't really open my jaw that much and I have strong gag reflex. So, mostly licking.
 
Kristy said:
Why are you so afraid of gays?
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Why are you helping delusion? I have no problem with gays, what I have a problem with is deluded gay men claiming they're straight. Again, why are you helping delusion?
 
Randydoggo said:
See that's the thing I can say whatever I want. Pal. What I think is your too worried about what other people think in general. Oh boohoo miscommunication. I've had people ask my sexuality before I said im bi. That's a half truth. Left it at that. See the thing is I am bi but only attracted to animals. Do you think I want to tell the whole world that detail. Fuck no. Again your argument is moot unless you really think it's a good idea to walk around telling people you fuck animals. Let them be confused or in the dark about that aspect of your sexuality. That's NOT a problem. You being stuck in a jail cell because you outted yourself would be. Right? I really don't see the importance of your argument. Your just picking at straws here because you know everything I said is logically sound.
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Finally, some common sense. Thanks bud. This level of honesty seems too hard to find around here.
 
Uggy8 said:
I know some men who let themselves be fucked by dogs, but are totally against being fucked by another man.
Sex with men doesn't appeal to them at all in any way, but sex with a male dog pleases them.
Are they gay??
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Yes.
 
Kristy said:
It went from everyone trying to translate what the OP said. Some disagreement with the OP and each other ensued. Now, it's six pages, with a fuss, now, over what constitutes gayness, with one guy trying to drag everyone out of the closet he suspects to be gay, and he has no idea what he's babbling about.
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Suspect? Lol, it has nothing to do with "suspect," it's men here admitting that they like dick and have engaged in homosexual acts. That's not "suspect" gayness, it's confirmed gayness.
 
Uggy8 said:
I know some men who let themselves be fucked by dogs, but are totally against being fucked by another man.
Sex with men doesn't appeal to them at all in any way, but sex with a male dog pleases them.
Are they gay??
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***raises hand

That’s me. I don’t consider myself gay. I don’t consider myself bisexual, either, because if you’re not into men, you don’t fit the definition of gay or bisexual.
 
Ok it seems that the majority out there think it's kinda gay or bi for a man to lick a doggy lipstick, Yet it's my guess most guys wouldn't have any issues letting a male dog lick their cock and balls, I guess that's not so gay then ?
 
azoogirl said:
Ok it seems that the majority out there think it's kinda gay or bi for a man to lick a doggy lipstick, Yet it's my guess most guys wouldn't have any issues letting a male dog lick their cock and balls, I guess that's not so gay then ?
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Eh, I’d argue still just as gay. But then, I’m completely straight, and don’t look at male animals in a sexual manner. Not even a little bit. It’s nice watching male animals fuck and get sucked by human women. But that’s as far as I go with it, personally. I want nothing else to do with male animals.

Female animals on the other hand… ?
 
GoldenGait said:
Haha! Yeah, boohoo miscommunication. I’m an idiot for thinking it’s important for people to use words in the way they’re defined instead of in the way they think they should be defined.
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I never said you were an idiot. Sure I might have been blunt but to be fair you approached me arguing a break down of words. Here I'll explain again. You may want to re read what I said. I implied that your argument is opinionated around a singular definition and not the larger picture. Its moot to get irritated about how others identify themselves as a zoo because we don't generally tell our specific preferences to just anyone that would lend an ear in the first place. It would be unwise to do so hence the illegality. Your argument was based on reasoning that nobody would understand if you said you are gay.
(With the condition that it's your attraction to a male dog) would you want them too understand that? Are you afraid that if you have gay urges and didn't explain further that it's to a different species that a random man is gonna try to dry hump you on the spot? Without even asking or getting to know you? :gsd_laughing:

Your getting mad over someone using words that could have a different meaning than what's generally implied. Your gonna be even more angry if you look up the term polysemous then. Perspective. It's what loads of definitions are based upon. Several Words in the English language can be defined in multiple ways and have more than one possible meaning; dependant on the phrasing. For example Homosexuality: "is a Romantic/sexual attraction, or sexual behavior between MEMBERS of the same sex" That is, Two males, or two females. It's a behavior that spans across many species not just humans. The fact that you exclude our attraction to animals of the same sex out of the equation is pure denial that it IS a form of cross species homosexual behavior. There has been literal scientific studies done on this type of thing in the animal kingdom to try and understand why animals have sexual urges outside of the need for procreation. Yet humans are too stubborn to accept that cross species attraction applies to some of us as well: why is it so hard for you to grasp that homosexual urges are expressed in zoosexuality?? You already accept that you have an attraction that most typical people judge and misunderstand to begin with. Meanwhile your too stubborn to accept truth even if it's right in front of you. It's just like no man I'm not gay. Now excuse me while my dog (lover??) squirts several mil of cum with his PENIS inside my BUTTHOLE (or mouth) hard knot pressed against my prostate. A behavior that is very clearly homosexual: between two males ??? ? I'm done expressing valid points if your too stubborn to see perspective that's different than what YOU want it to be. Since your so keen on using that line at others. Have a nice day :gsd_happysmile:
 
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I am straight, and that aint my thing. I think a cock is fascinating. And theirs is quite interesting. But I dont feel the urge to blow em. NO sexual interest for me. Its just not his thing..leave it at that. I mean you both into zoo, thats plenty eh.
 
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