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2022 Sigmund Freud University Vienna Zoophilia Study.

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HugDoggy said:
So was it only ZV members that were to be taking part in the research, because I would have thought there might have been other sites around the world that might also be able to contribute that don't have English as their primary language. So it's odd that researches from Germany wouldn't have a german version for their own citizens.
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Even german corporations are aware English is most wide spread language :)

Personally I suspect some of those "odd looking sintax questions" can be related to German -> English translation.

And related, the translation subtilities might change the subject answers and intriduce an unwanted factor.
 
Wolf2 said:
It’s neat, and probably very in depth, but a study like this hopefully had a control group to compare to.
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And whom prey tell would be in the control group? I'm not sure how you would select cantidates for the control or were you suggesting, just going out onto the street and saying "Entschuldigen Sie, Bürger, hätten Sie etwas dagegen, an einer Umfrage zu Ihrer Sexualität teilzunehmen." (Excuse me citizen would you mind taking a survey on your sexuality.) Because even in Germany I'm not sure how many volunteers you would get with that method. So those that do participate in the control group may be more sexually open which in turn could create a bias in the control.
 
Goattobeloved said:
Even german corporations are aware English is most wide spread language :)

Personally I suspect some of those "odd looking sintax questions" can be related to German -> English translation.

And related, the translation subtilities might change the subject answers and intriduce an unwanted factor.
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Well with this sort of survey maybe it should be in French then, that is said to be the language of love.

For me personally I've always considered the language of love to involve big slobbery licks with a lovers tongue. Ah but wait French kissing involves the use of your tongue, so maybe French is correct.

No I've just received a stern GSD look accompanied with a single word transmitted telepathically "Nein!" Ok I guess we better stick with English then.
 
HugDoggy said:
And whom prey tell would be in the control group? I'm not sure how you would select cantidates for the control or were you suggesting, just going out onto the street and saying "Entschuldigen Sie, Bürger, hätten Sie etwas dagegen, an einer Umfrage zu Ihrer Sexualität teilzunehmen." (Excuse me citizen would you mind taking a survey on your sexuality.) Because even in Germany I'm not sure how many volunteers you would get with that method. So those that do participate in the control group may be more sexually open which in turn could create a bias in the control.
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The control group would be any normal subset being asked the same questions. The wouldn’t have to be the zoophilia related questions to be control, genius. Go take a science class.
 
Wolf2 said:
The control group would be any normal subset being asked the same questions. The wouldn’t have to be the zoophilia related questions to be control, genius. Go take a science class.
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Glances at the B. App. Sci. degree hanging on the wall, nah I think I'm good without taking any more science classes.

Did I say anything about asking them the zoo questions, I was inquiring where you were going to get the participants for your control group, so I just said asking people questions about their sexuality. Or were you not planning on telling the volunteers taking the survey what it was about before they agreed to do the survey. Even taking the zoo specific questions out the survey is still clearly sexual in nature and the topic is not always readily discussed in all societies on this planet. So my point was, that those from the general populous who would volunteer to take the survey may be more sexually out going than some others in the community and that fact alone could create and influence on the resulting validity of the control group.

But lets say you got a truly random sampling of participants from a good number of cultures and societies from around the planet (as the zoo participants were taken from) you can still only use the control group where they are asked the same questions (as you yourself just stated) so you either need to live with an incomplete comparison between the two groups or the questions must be rewritten to change everything the control group is ask matches as much as possible the tone, phrasing and context of the content of the questions asked to the zoo group.

I'm not saying a control couldn't have some uses, I'm merely saying gathering a truly representative sample group could have it's challenges without biasing factors being introduced.
 
My thoughts on the survey... They're trying to link porn consumption/sex addition with animal attraction, which is fair enough. Anecdotally I've heard people say they saw a dog fucking a hot girl and were immediately addicted, etc. However, I've been a zoo since before the internet (ya, get off my lawn, kiddies, lol) so that doesn't really track for me, but whatever.

My main complaint with the survey is that there is some vagueness in the questions that conflate humans with animals, and also a lot that conflate CURRENT self-acceptance with acceptance when seen from the greater society or seen from the past. That is, questions like "have you ever tried and failed to stop a sexual activity" (not exactly a Q in there, but as a similar example) would be answered differently if I'm thinking about how I feel personally when I have a butt full of stallion cum today, vs. when I was a teen and was unable to deal with my wacky animal attractions and was desperately trying to stop having these thoughts.

Basically, at some point I realized that I couldn't reprogram my brain and I just ran with what hand I was dealt. Didn't like it particularly, but what can you do, I reasoned? Anyway, that subtlety is lost in these questions, so my responses look a bit all over the map because in some cases I'm like, "ya, I'm comfortable with who I am" yet other answers are like "fuck ya I am stressed about what other people think about me because they can destroy me!"

Also, there are all these "who is to blame if you have sexual problems" and that whole phrasing is just odd to me. What kind of "problems"?? As in, my partner doesn't want sex? That's not a problem, that's life: It's a partnership. So do they mean sexual dysfunction as in impotence??? I'm totally confused by all of those (rephrased like 10 times) questions, and had to choose the middle option because I didn't know wtf they were getting at.

Anyway, every study pushes the boulder of knowledge a bit further up the hill, even if they are imperfectly designed studies.
 
it appears the translations might not be the best, and it does leave me to wonder if the questions might be answered wrong due mistranslations given the repetitive nature of some of them. they asked the same question about 5 times in there according to my bot, answered as best i could regardless given my german is terribad after years of not using it. i will concur with the above though, just like past studies it appears this one is to conflate the issue with another issue entirely and not at all will yield the result they are looking to catch. as stated with the furry conflating one, the violently/sexually abused one and the anti-authority one the answer is the same. being attracted to something non-human is not a form of sex addiction, some of us just cant look at humans that way for multitudes of reasons beyond understanding. it happens in nature quite frequently (something even darwin admitted), so it happening to humans is nature being just that.
 
Finished. I found the repeating questions and lack of separation between multiple diffrent/any animal/human partners annoying. It took me maybe around 1 1/2 hours I think. The 20 minutes estimate is a joke when you read every question carefully and try to answer everything correct, As well as the problem with unclear meaning of some questions. For example what was meant with sexual problems (organic impotency, zoonosis, injuries from sex....?) or the are you happy about the sexual aspects of your life. Yes I#M proud and happy to be a zoophile buit was that the meaning or maybe the amount of sex the fulfillment of all your sexual desires (contact to all the specific animal species you adore/love...). It´'s just not to clear what was meant.
 
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And done. It was nice to be given the opportunity for open-ended answers. Obviously that will be more difficult to quantify, but you can get somewhere using qualitative data analysis too, especially when the number of respondents is low. It also gave me the opportunity to reflect on my personal journey on zoo acceptance and attitudes.

Seeing the same questions reappearing slightly differently asked can be seen as "annoying", but it gave me confidence they tried to ensure getting genuine answers with these control questions. As for the consent question, I like to think I was not the only one explaining nonverbal consent.

All in all, hopefully this study will show that there is a range of people / characters under the zoo umbrella...
 
Kazegami said:
I thought it was mostly ok, it asked to elaborate on things via writing a paragraph, where other studies had multiple choice for those questions... Perhaps giving more clarity. It also seemed more direct with some questions.

But the last section was super repetitive, tedious, and felt like rephrasing 10 questions over and over. It also had some questions that seemed to have went through a translation program and had weird grammar or punctuation, maybe because of my VPN.
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From how I understand it, redundant questions are often a tool used to gauge the truthfulness or accuracy of a response. If you respond differently to three fairly similar questions, it can either highlight a perspective that's being concealed or some inconsistency in how the study is being run.
 
ShoutySuitman said:
it appears the translations might not be the best, and it does leave me to wonder if the questions might be answered wrong due mistranslations given the repetitive nature of some of them. they asked the same question about 5 times in there according to my bot, answered as best i could regardless given my german is terribad after years of not using it. i will concur with the above though, just like past studies it appears this one is to conflate the issue with another issue entirely and not at all will yield the result they are looking to catch. as stated with the furry conflating one, the violently/sexually abused one and the anti-authority one the answer is the same. being attracted to something non-human is not a form of sex addiction, some of us just cant look at humans that way for multitudes of reasons beyond understanding. it happens in nature quite frequently (something even darwin admitted), so it happening to humans is nature being just that.
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I agree that the answer variety I could give were extremely questionable, and it makes me wonder why they couldn't even get someone to translate this properly?
 
Zoophx said:
From how I understand it, redundant questions are often a tool used to gauge the truthfulness or accuracy of a response. If you respond differently to three fairly similar questions, it can either highlight a perspective that's being concealed or some inconsistency in how the study is being run.
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I think it highlights the oversimplification of the factors they have presumed to be relevant.

I've seen this a lot with psychological studies and political compass tests. They think they're asking the same question but the questions involved extremely complicated and nuanced subjects. If they get noise out I guess that helps them conclude something, but the correct conclusion was that their questions were worthless.

On this particular one it seemed like it was asked a million times "Are your sexual problems your fault"... what problems? If I go limp dicked at 70 that's biology not my fault. If I insult everyone who shows any sexual interest in me that's my fault.

It's like it's trying to detect some kind of forgone conclusion regardless of the context and rational people don't think like that.

"My sex life depends on powerful others (spouse, partner, family, etc...)" huge eye roll. Sex is interaction, of course it depends on others. Why put "powerful"? No good answers.

"My sexuality is fate/destiny" .... facepalm ....

Contrast this with a question which is well defined, they kept asking about using protection and avoiding STDs.
 
even if late, complete... i agree about the weird questions many times it just looks like the same written differently trying to get you to give a different answer...

at least here they have put a small space to be able to write a few lines ... provided that they can be useful
 
Filled up, but to tell the truth I needed translator for “few” questions. I’m not English speaking member.
 
I'm curious... Wien.. that's a german city! So, can i answer fully in german sentences? Because all the questions are english still :/
 
Wien is an Austrian city (not Australian), but you should be fine by answering in German.
They speak German in a variant, even if they don't like to admit it. :husky_wink:

There's probably no one in the position of sorting out those study participation results which wouldn't speak German as well.
 
YanchaOkami said:
Wien is an Austrian city (not Australian), but you should be fine by answering in German.
They speak German in a variant, even if they don't like to admit it. :husky_wink:

There's probably no one in the position of sorting out those study participation results which wouldn't speak German as well.
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Ok thanks. I also kinda remember i've read a University Study about Zoophilia that was printed in german language. And it got translated to english afterwards from from the community of this very Forum. I think it was a study from 2018
 
kalli9922 said:
Ok thanks. I also kinda remember i've read a University Study about Zoophilia that was printed in german language. And it got translated to english afterwards from from the community of this very Forum. I think it was a study from 2018
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No problem. About the translating of another study I don't know much, but it's possible.

Usually if there's a study in regards of international participants or specifically hosted for countries with mostly English as spoken language, they're initially written in English. But if it has to run in German and English speaking countries, it's common to create the study in both languages for the aimed participants / social groups etc.
 
I finished it. Damn... some questions didn't even make sense. That's what happens when they translate german to english with google translate. Man, i hope i did everything right. Can't wait to read the final Study
 
ZTHorse said:
The University of Sigmund Freud University Vienna is conducting an anonymous zoophilia study using an online survey that will take no more than 30 minutes to complete.

Here is the link: https://onlinebefragungen.sfu.ac.at/Zoophilia2023/

Research staff:

Birgit U. Stetina
Armin Klaps
Lisa Emmett - Lead Researcher

Zooville.org has been in conversation and has verified that the study is legitimate with a proper letter of intent of using this forum as a survey base. If possible, we highly suggest that you conduct the survey as truthfully as possible and within your margins of personal anonymity. Scientific research into our sexual orientation is always welcomed, and I am glad to have aided them in opening up Zooville to them.

The Letter of Intent is posted below.

View attachment 360716

Best Regards,
ZTHorse
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Interesting.
 
Interesting study, first time i've ever filled out anything like that. I want to see their conclusion when that comes out
 
As with all social science research, the result of the present study is most likely a not entirely unequivocal accumulation of 'hard' facts, based fairly haphazardly on sometimes rather dubiously worded questions, resulting in even more questionable quantitative and qualitative interpretations: in short, every reason for follow-up studies that provide even more ambiguity.
 
I'm not zoo myself, but I support zoos, as long as they treat their pets with love and respect. I think zoosexuality finally must be accepted by society! So I am not sure if I should participate in this survey!
 
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