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Zoophilia in history

A little correction from my previous post :
Thesmosphyrea an ancient Greek pagan ritual where for 40 days a group of women
would retreat pray, eat, have fun. It is presumed that they had sex with male animals because men were not permitted to enter, and sex with animals was tolerated in those times. There is no record of their activites because eating, dancing, listening to music & having sex (with male animals in this case) was considered a base activity, not worthy to record. Debates about philosophy, politics etc were considered worthy to record. But in those times men were very male chauvinistic , they considered women incapable of intelligent discourse, so even if they had really good conversation it wouldn't have been recorded anyway, ...even in those times women were only good for cooking & sex !
 
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Prehistoric Times
According to Rosenberger (1968), documentation of the practice of human–animal sex dates back to at least in the Fourth Glacial Age, between 40,000 and 25,000 years ago. Many discoveries of paintings and carvings showing humans and animals having sexual relations have been made in various ancient religious temples (Davis 1954), indicating the pre-occupation of ancient man with bestiality (Stekel 1952). For example, according to Taylor (1996), an engraved bone rod from the cave of La Madeleine, France, from the later Ice Ages (around 25,000 years ago), depicts a lioness licking the opening of either a gigantic human penis or a vulva, and an Iron Age cave painting from the seventh century BC, from Val Camonica, Italy, portrays a man inserting his penis into the vagina or anus of a donkey (Gregersen 1983; Taylor 1996). According to Waine (1968), cave drawings of the Stone Age leave no doubt that our prehistoric ancestors enjoyed frequent and pleasurable sexual relations with animals.

Moreover, the fact that these drawings had an integral part in a clan’s family history, indicates it was a common act (Waine 1968; Ellison 1970), or at least a desired act.

Ancient Near East

Archeological findings demonstrate that bestiality was practiced in Babylonia, the ancient Empire in Mesopotamia, which prospered in the third millennium BC. In his famous Code of Hammurabi, King Hammurabi (1955–1913 BC) proclaimed death for any person engaging in bestiality (Ellison 1970; Blake 1972; Hamilton 1981). At other times, according to Waine (1968), during the Spring Fertility Rites of Babylon, dogs and other animals were used for maintaining a constant orgy condition for seven days and nights (Waine 1968).

The Hittites, (around 13th century BC), the predecessors of the Hebrews in the Holy Land, had certain rules about which animals were tolerable to have sex with and which were forbidden and punishable by death (Gregersen 1983; Kinsey, Pomeroy and Martin 1948).

The Book of Leviticus states that bestiality was very wide-spread in the country of Canaan (Dubois-Desaulle 1933; Niemoeller 1946a). The Hebrews took issue with all the previous inhabitants of the Holy Land and their customs. Even depicting God with an animal’s head or an animal’s body was an abomination (Dekkers 1994). The Hebrews considered sexual relations with animals a form of worshiping other Gods, as was homosexuality, and the bestialist and the animal were both to be put to death.

The purpose of these taboos was to help maintain and reinforce the boundaries of the group, and enable it to retain its distinctive identity under adverse circumstances (Davies 1982).

There are four references concerning men who have sexual contacts with animals in the Old Testament (Exodus 22:19; Leviticus 18: 22–24; Leviticus 20: 15–16; Deuteronomy 27:21), and two references concerning women (Leviticus 18:23; Leviticus 20:16). The Talmud, a commentary on the Old Testament, specifically forbids a widow from keeping a pet dog, lest she be tempted to have sexual relations with it (Hunt 1974; Bullough 1976; Gregersen 1983; Dekkers 1994).

Ancient Egypt

The ancient Egyptians worshiped Gods with animal shapes almost exclusively in the pre-dynastic period before about 3000 BC (Douglas 1992). Animal–human sexual contacts are occasionally portrayed on the tombs (Bullough 1976), and bestiality was recorded in Egyptian hieroglyphics as far back as 3000 BC (Ramsis 1969). Several kings and queens had a reputation of engaging in bestiality (Rosenfeld 1967; Rosenberger 1968), most famous was Cleopatra, who was said to have had a box filled with bees which she had placed against her genitals for stimulation, similar to a vibrator (Love 1992).

Egyptian men often had sexual intercourse with cattle or any other large domesticated animal (Tannahill 1992), while the women resorted to dogs (Rosenfeld 1967; Rosenberger 1968). Sexual contacts with apes were further reported for both men and women (Masters 1962; Bagley 1968; Ramsis 1969), and most interestingly, the Egyptians are reported to have mastered the art of sexual congress with the crocodile. This was accomplished by turning the creature onto its back, rendering it incapable of resisting penetration. This form of copulation was believed to bring prosperity and restore the potency of men (Masters 1962; Bledsoe 1965; Maybury 1968; Kullinger 1969; Ramsis 1969; Love 1992). The Egyptians were also known to engage in worshipful bestiality with the Apis bull in Memphis, Egypt (The Wild Animal Revue 1992, Issue 5) and with goats at the Temple at Mendes (Mantegazza 1932; Bloch 1933; Niemoeller 1946a; Davis 1954; Masters 1962; Rosenfeld 1967; Bagley 1968; Maybury 1968; Love 1992). The goats were further used as a cure for nymphomaniacs (Masters 1962; Bagley 1968). Having said all that, bestiality was however, punishable in Egypt, by a variety of torture mechanisms, leading to death (Rosenfeld 1967; Rosenberger 1968; Trimble 1969).

Ancient Greece

Bestiality themes were very popular in Greek mythology (Kinsey et al. 1953; Masters 1962; Masters 1966; Rosenfeld 1967; Bagley 1968; Harris 1969; Haeberle 1978; The Wild Animal Revue 1991, Issue 1). Most notorious are the stories of Leda and the swan (Zeus), and Pasiphae, the wife of Minos, King of Crete, who fell in love with a bull, hid inside a wooden cow and copulated with it (Masters 1962; The Wild Animal Revue 1991, Issue 1; Dekkers 1994). The worship of bulls as fertility symbols was widespread in Crete and elsewhere long before the Greek period in classical times, and the tone of the writers of the day leaves no room to doubt that bestiality was a fairly common occurrence in daily life (Niemoeller 1946a).

The ancient Greeks engaged in bestiality during religious celebrations such as the Bacchanalia, in honor of the God Bacchus (Dubois-Desaulle 1933), and in the Temple of Aphrodite Parne, the Greek Goddess of Indecent Copulation (Waine 1968). As with the ancient Egyptians, ancient Greeks believed bestiality cured nymphomaniacs (Masters 1962; Bagley 1968). Bestial affairs were acted out on the Greek stage (Masters 1966), and were the theme of The Golden Ass by Lucius Apuleius, the earliest Latin novel that has remained in its entirety, and has long been censored because of its pornographic language and bestiality content (Ramsis 1969). Bestiality was never punishable in ancient Greece (Rosenberger 1968).

Ancient Rome

Roman mythology is rich with bestiality themes (Kinsey et al. 1953; Harris 1969), as is Greek mythology, and the Romans liked to view on stage scenes from the sexual lives of the mythological Gods, including bestial acts (Masters 1962; Bagley 1968; The Wild Animal Revue 1992, Issue 5). Bestiality was wide-spread among shepherds (Masters 1962), and Roman women were known to keep snakes which they trained to coil around their thighs and slide past the lips of their vaginas (Davis 1954; Masters 1962; Christy 1967; Maybury 1968; Dekkers 1994).

It was the Romans who invented the rape of women (and sometimes men) by animals for the amusement of the audience at the Coliseum and Circus Maximus, and bestiality flourished as a public spectacle in ancient Rome (Masters 1962; Bledsoe 1965; Somers 1966; Rosenfeld 1967; Rosenberger 1968; Waine 1968; Harris 1969; Trimble 1969; Blake 1972; Love 1992; The Wild Animal Revue 1992, Issue 5; Dekkers 1994).

Emperors, such as Tiberius (AD 14–37), his wife Julia, Claudius (AD 37–41), Nero (AD 54–68), Constantinus (a.k.a. Constantine the Great, AD 274–337), Theodora (Emperor Justinian’s wife, AD 520s), and Empress Irene (AD 797–802), had been known to either engage in bestiality or enjoy watching others engage in bestiality (Bledsoe 1964; Rosenfeld 1967; Rosenberger 1968; Waine 1968; Blake 1972; Hamilton 1981; Love 1992; The Wild Animal Revue 1992, Issue 5). According to Niemoeller (1946a), at the beginning of the Roman Empire, legal retribution for bestiality was required only for sodomy, under which bestiality was included. Later, bestiality was distinguished from sodomy and made punishable by death (Dubois-Desaulle 1933; Niemoeller 1946b). In any event, as the Empire expanded and grew more powerful and corrupt, punishments for bestiality became almost nonexistent (Rosenberger 1968).
Damn you beat me to the Roman history XD
 
A few years ago, I watch a sensible, normal documentary about Roman gladiators. All good and vanilla (and very interesting). At one point, the aspect of pleasing the crowd was reviewed. This was early showbiz, after all. People wanted to see more ferocious lions, more athletic gladiators, indeed more of everything. If watching humans losing their lives was viewed as entertainment (albeit the modern Hollywood action movie is the equivalent nowadays), the bar was set low on what would be permitted. And that included slave girls, according to the documentary, herded into the arena to be mated by dogs as the crowd cheered and jeered to show the depravity of barbarians. I would love to say the slave girls were granted their freedom and paraded on shoulders through the streets for their magnificent role in zoophilia history. Sadly, no such luck. After being mated, they had their throats cut. To those about to mate, we salute you.
How very sad for these poor girls! Sigh... ?
 
There is this Mythology story about Leda and the Swan, that is depicted MANY times by famous painters and sculpturers with some very erotic results. See Wikipedia for an extensive collection.
 
And under Zoophilia in History / Images you can find hundreds of different images from the Stone Age until now by many cultures in the world regarding sex with animals. ???
 
I am very interested in this as well. I always fantasized/thought about bestiality in the past. From Ancient Egypt to the turn of the century. The Egyptians where really into sex. There is actually Egyptian hieroglyphs depicting sex scenes, there was actually a documentary about it. But bestiality is something in which all cultures had practice in some form or another. I kinda wish there was some movies made depicting females in ritualized dog mating in ancient times in a temple. Like the orgy scene in the 1979 film Caligula. Or like the 1975 French film La Bete, but with a dog instead of a beast.
 
Amaltheia is the goat that suckeled Zeus as a baby. Playing with her later in life, he broke off one of her horns... which becomes the cornucopia. Not exactly zoophilia, but a very intimate relationship between man and animal.
zoosexuality . having an intimate relationship, not just zoophilia having a non-physical attraction to animals either is great
 
Actually the ancient Egyptians banned bestiality on the pain of death. Even though their religion depicted it extensively, and the Pharohs in private did it, especially Cleopatra who I think , if I remember correctly , played with snakes !
 
In Cleopatra's case she was said to have committed suicide by deliberately clutching an asp, which IS poisonous, to her bosom. If it bit her that close to her heart, it would have killed her fairly quickly, though with a good bit of pain. Remember, this is History. She was both Julius Caesar, and Marcus Antonius' lover. When Marc Antony fell, Cleopatra was of little use to the Romans.
Yes, most snakes are harmless enough, but the African Continent has far more than its share of toxic species, from Gaboon Vipers to Cobras and Kraits to various Adders. Some, such as the Mamba, were imported to the New World for slave-control purposes.
 
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Most snakes are not poisonous and cannot really harm an person. So that was not likely the cause of death.

There is only one poisonous snake (a sea snake). You meant to say “most snakes are not venomous”

Remember, if you bite it and you get sick it’s poisonous, if it bites you and you get sick It’s venomous, If you bite it and someone else gets sick it’s voodoo and if you both bite each other and no one gets sick it’s kinky ?
 
A few years ago, I watch a sensible, normal documentary about Roman gladiators. All good and vanilla (and very interesting). At one point, the aspect of pleasing the crowd was reviewed. This was early showbiz, after all. People wanted to see more ferocious lions, more athletic gladiators, indeed more of everything. If watching humans losing their lives was viewed as entertainment (albeit the modern Hollywood action movie is the equivalent nowadays), the bar was set low on what would be permitted. And that included slave girls, according to the documentary, herded into the arena to be mated by dogs as the crowd cheered and jeered to show the depravity of barbarians. I would love to say the slave girls were granted their freedom and paraded on shoulders through the streets for their magnificent role in zoophilia history. Sadly, no such luck. After being mated, they had their throats cut. To those about to mate, we salute you.
We haven’t come very far, have we?
 
Isn't there the Greek myth of Epona, who was born of the union between a man who formed a sexual relationship with a mare because he hated women, and the offspring became the goddess of fertility?
I'm no historian so I probably have that ALL wrong, but still, that's a thing worth documenting if I'm at all correct.
Now that just makes me think of Zelda. If Link is as kinky as Epona's dad, I like thinking about what he does with her when he's not off saving Zelda.
 
Isn't there the Greek myth of Epona, who was born of the union between a man who formed a sexual relationship with a mare because he hated women, and the offspring became the goddess of fertility?
I'm no historian so I probably have that ALL wrong, but still, that's a thing worth documenting if I'm at all correct.
Now I love The Legend of Zelda even more <3. Epona is such a wonderful horse
 
Isn't there the Greek myth of Epona, who was born of the union between a man who formed a sexual relationship with a mare because he hated women, and the offspring became the goddess of fertility?
I'm no historian so I probably have that ALL wrong, but still, that's a thing worth documenting if I'm at all correct.
Epona is not Greek. She is a Goddess of the Gauls, which were the French Celts. But, yes, her legend involves her father mating with a Celestial Mare.
 
I'm super curious to find out what the earliest known erotic depiction of canine genitalia is. Both of the canine penis, and the canine vulva.
Preferably not depictions of the animals engaged in sex with a human* but rather any art made in sexual admiration of the animal itself, or its genitals. True zoophilia.
*because the dog might be there for a degradation aspect rather than zoophilia, though if it contains an accurate canine penis with knot, or anatomically correct canine vulva I'd still be interested

Some imaginary lost artworks I've imagined:
- a prehistoric wooden or clay sculpture of a dog cock that was made for and used as a dildo

- prehistoric lascaux-like cave painting of a female dog with legs spread, vulva big and in heat, drawn near ground-level where the artist could sit and masturbate to it
- sketches of dog porn hidden among the personal belongings of a 19th century illustrator who was secretly a zoophile
- solo dog porn existing in some 18th century Japanese erotic shunga print

These two shunga prints from 1837, which were mentioned earlier in the thread, contain an accurate canine penis with the knot and shape correct. Though it's not erotic, the earliest depiction of any kind of a dog's penis I've managed to find is this Black Desert petroglyph dating to the 1st millenium BCE, found in this PDF on page 91.
DogPhallusFigure4.81.png

What are some early erotic depictions of canine genitalia you're aware of, or can find?
 
So human/animal coupling is a huge theme in lots of mythology! One major example is the wife of King Minos, who coupled with a bull and gave birth to the Minotaur. Other examples I can immediately think of include animal brides (touched on here), the various exploits of Zeus, and other myths related to shapeshifting. In terms of historical information, a lot of classical authors accuse the Egyptians of bestiality, but, much like today's jokes against the Welsh (or Scottish, Kiwis, etc.) it was likely just an insult. I did find some references indicating that some tribes indigenous to North America seem to not have had a taboo against zoosexual behavior, but I want to do more research into that. And obviously, religion managed to get its hands on this, as it has so many other things. Abrahamic religions have proscriptions against it, in Leviticus 18 and 20, although in the New Testament, some scholars have debated if there remains a proscription against zoosexual acts, based on Jesus' overturning of Judaic law.

I'll let y'all know if I learn more as I do more research.
You think the reason it's such a common theme is that we're very low on the predator scale and are clearly terrified of predators, based on our history of hunting so many species to extinction and our fascination with predator "attacks" on humans, as if the aberration was the attack and not the species that has decided it's too special to belong to a food chain?

I'd think that, historically, animals would represent a strength that we would see as "supernatural"/mythical or at least superhuman, and that, in a time where humanity still shared its world with powerful animals, the "super-human" would logically be an animal-human hybrid. The anthropocentric view of the world has removed natural life from our culture enough that we imagine humans with powers because we don't think of animals as powerful anymore. We take credit for all the work done by oil as if it was done by our own hand, making the speed of a cheetah less and less impressive.

When you think about it, it's this life -one species living in the absence of uninvited natural life- that's the anomaly. This has never happened before, is fundamentally unsustainable, and will come crashing down without people noticing... because it's already started and we've decided it's a political issue. That's how far removed we are from reality. The natural world is collapsing under our weight and at least half of us still haven't noticed.
 
I'm betting that part of our mutualistic relationship with dogs, going back before "civilization", would be as a consequence-free sex partner. The shape of the dog penis is so perfect for stimulating the human vagina, it's almost as if dogs were bred for this. I'm talking 10k-15k years ago, when sex wasn't taboo and people shared everything in their tribes because they literally needed to trust each other with their lives every single day. I'm not sure how we can know these things with any certainty, but in the book Sapiens, the author talks about women being bred by multiple partners at the same time out of the belief you could combine more than two sets of genes.

In a world where resources are scarce and competition is fierce and violent, and in a time before vibrators or netflix, you can see where "fucking the dog" would be part of life. Necessity is the mother of invention and the human brain hasn't changed fundamentally in at least 30k years.

I'm also guessing that more people are engaging in acts of bestiality with the pandemic because our lives are more closely mimicking how we lived in caves. I doubt it will ever become mainstream or openly discussed, but I do wonder how much more prevalent zoosexuality will be. Between their tongues, penises, etc. I doubt it's a happy accident that everything fits so well. We've lived with dogs for too long for there to not be some sexual selection pressure there, assuming ancient humans had sex with animals but I think we'd be laughably naïve to think that zoosexuality is new. There's a reason your nostrils are big enough for your finger but your ears aren't; nothing in nature that is preserved over time is accidental and there would need to be a clear benefit for humans to share their living space with dogs. I'd actually be surprised if there wasn't a direct connection: you'd be more likely to feed a dog that fucks you well than one that doesn't and we've been living with and breeding these animals so long we don't know when it started. If it hasn't always been a thing, it wouldn't be a thing.
 
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