Vets and Suspision

[iwanttobeabottom]

Find a vet in a busy liberal city maybe. To the vet, you're just another anonymous client. Don't chitchat.
But I think best not to dwell on it. Except police who always see crimes, people are not like that.

People are, more often than not, their own worst enemies.

They get anxious and think that other people know what they're thinking, then they act weird and give themselves up.

Just be a regular dickhead off the street and be nonchalant. Just be a gray man.

 

[Demigod]

People are, more often than not, their own worst enemies.

They get anxious and think that other people know what they're thinking, then they act weird and give themselves up.

Just be a regular dickhead off the street and be nonchalant. Just be a gray man.

Lots of people will accuse you of strange things regardless of what you do.

 

[DogLover09]

I love this site....so grateful for it.
I've a question: I'm adopting a puppy girl soon, she's 5 weeks old. I'm concerned about explaining to a vet why I will not want to spay. Any ideas. I know it's a red flag for them. I don't believe in it, ethically.

But what about when she's older? Vets know when something has happened. Can anyone advise me?

Thanks!
Charlie

tell them that sterilizing a perfectly healthy animal is unethical in most cases if you wouldn't do it to your human children why do it to an animal?

 

[Dogspride]

Depends on where you are.
In the great area of Cascadia, I have never met a vet who gave a hoot. But when I was in the prairies, particularily Manitoba, the vets refused to take us as a patient unless we neutered or spayed the dog

That’s just fucking strange sounds like a money grab. That or he’s a boot licker for the spca.
The vet I go to with both male & female dogs all intact never even mentioned it.

 

[Vetpro]

That’s just fucking strange sounds like a money grab. That or he’s a boot licker for the spca.
The vet I go to with both male & female dogs all intact never even mentioned it.

True as a veterinarian i only recommend this if medically necessary for the health and well being of the animal.

 

[Dogspride]

True as a veterinarian i only recommend this if medically necessary for the health and well being of the animal.

As a vet what do you recommend for a cheap dog wormer? I know the opinion it is different based on location. I’m in Canada and use ivermectin 2-3 times a year. I have also used safe guard wormer for goats. That one was recommended by a US vet. but hard to get here.

 

[Vetpro]

As a vet what do you recommend for a cheap dog wormer? I know the opinion it is different based on location. I’m in Canada and use ivermectin 2-3 times a year. I have also used safe guard wormer for goats. That one was recommended by a US vet. but hard to get here.

Cardinal Labs Remedy+Rercovery less expensive and works good

 

[Dogspride]

Cardinal Labs Remedy+Rercovery less expensive and works good

Thank you and it’s nice to have a vet on here.

 

[YourLocalZooGal]

Just say that there isn’t any reason

I love this site....so grateful for it.
I've a question: I'm adopting a puppy girl soon, she's 5 weeks old. I'm concerned about explaining to a vet why I will not want to spay. Any ideas. I know it's a red flag for them. I don't believe in it, ethically.

But what about when she's older? Vets know when something has happened. Can anyone advise me?

Thanks!
Charlie

to spay as your more than capable of training without doing something invasive for her temperament/behaviour and aren’t worried about her getting pregnant from a stud

 

[Cooper22z]

I love this site....so grateful for it.
I've a question: I'm adopting a puppy girl soon, she's 5 weeks old. I'm concerned about explaining to a vet why I will not want to spay. Any ideas. I know it's a red flag for them. I don't believe in it, ethically.

But what about when she's older? Vets know when something has happened. Can anyone advise me?

Thanks!
Charlie

There’s no need to over explain yourself.
Just say you don’t want to spay her. Some may bring up pyometra and say you should spay due to that. Sometimes its medically necessary based on your breed but even then I PERSONALLY think you should wait until 2 years old so your dog can fully develop. There are different types of spaying
Go for laparoscopic ovariectomy (I believe that’s the least invasive and best type of spay)

But if you don’t want to spay, just show you’re aware of the risks. You can state you MAY breed her. OR simply state you don’t want to spay and don’t like to spay your animals. Simple as that. They cannot force you to spay your dog.

 

[doornaildorthy]

There's some good tips on this post.

 

[Knutshack]

I love this site....so grateful for it.
I've a question: I'm adopting a puppy girl soon, she's 5 weeks old. I'm concerned about explaining to a vet why I will not want to spay. Any ideas. I know it's a red flag for them. I don't believe in it, ethically.

But what about when she's older? Vets know when something has happened. Can anyone advise me?

Thanks!
Charlie

I think it's wrong to sterlise a dog unless it's a medical emergency, I think it's unfair to force a dog denial of sexual behaviour and pleasure and I also think it's unfair and cruel to mutilate animals to comfort and please others. I get some people may not have thought so much about sterilisation but why would they forcibly try to persuade you to get your dog sterilised?

 

[LadyB]

My vet has never given me any grief over why I haven't neutered my boys. Sure, she asks and talks about the health benefits for them. But when I tell her no, that's the end of the conversation until the next checkup. She has never bugged me about why not.

I had similar experience with my vet, my boy is intact and once I decided its the way forward that topic is closed. Or perhaps I am lucky that she does not pursue or never bothered me further or seemed inquisitive.

 

[Areion]

I don't know why this topic is an issue..
The world veterinary association states that it is NOT recommended to neuter your dogs as a routine (cats seems to be complicated).
If your vet says other wise they aren't following the worldwide guidelines and very likely are looking over their own pockets and not your dog.

Behaviour issues are fixed with pills or implants, then you can work with the dog to get better on education. Then reduce the meds gradually.
Even if that doesn't work dogs get better with age and will need to be intact at old age, then you can stop the meds.

This is almost mathematical, not much room for second interpretations here

 

[TThhoommaass]

My thoughts on this. If they ask just say no. Don't make it a big deal. If they insist, insist no. If they insist some more it really cannot be ethical of them, so conclude your business, leave a bad review, and find a new vet. Whatever you do don't stand out, do not be the "protests to much". Keep it simple, you do not want the procedure for your animal.

 

[chrand87]

I would assume the vet knows that puppies come from somewhere. There must be other intact animals in the world to breed or the species would die out, along with their business.

 

[SpadeLover200]

I do have a friend who is a vet. I'd say she's mentally unwell and kinda hates men for valid reasons. But combine the two and she can get pretty aggressive and belligerent. She was ranting about the ethical spading of pets (I get her position, some people do not deserve animals and the thought if them having MORE on their hands is frustrating) and was shouting that all men who don't spade must be sexual deviants. Now while in my case she may be spot on, in this context it was a giant leap, and probably mostly inaccurate. (I can't imagine a majority, or even a large minority are actually zoophiles).

I think its general culture to be wary of men with how the news reports. The best you can do is understand their pov and move on

what makes you think not wanting to spay is a "red flag" to them? do you think "he totally fucks her" is on their mind instantly when you tell them you're not interested in needlessly mutilating her?

and what do you mean by "vets know when something has happened"? as in, they "know" when she had sex? unless she's oozing your fluids upon arrival, they "know" jack shit.

it simply boils down to "my animal, my decision" in "normal" people's language


also, some ppl really seem to need to realize how low (if at all) on "normal" person's mind sex with animals really is... there's a reason it's always such a big and shocking news (and laws get pushed immediately) when someone gets caught doing it. it's just so far out of this world for an average person. you can also just look at any average kinkster here, arriving with "yesterday i had no idea it's possible, now i'm hooked forevah"... just be yourself and don't look for "red flags" where there aren't any.

 

[carlosbraga00]

i dont think they ll

 

[UsagiRaine]

My vet has never really questioned me except for that one time when my boy was a young pup (about neutering). I just told them I didn't want to neuter because I was "unsure about breeding." He's extremely well trained so my vet really doesn't have any suspicions due to aggression or hyper-activity from being left intact or anything like that. I also make sure to work him more since he is a working dog by going on hikes and trails more often so he can expend that energy.

 

[SaraZooville]

My vet has never really questioned me except for that one time when my boy was a young pup (about neutering). I just told them I didn't want to neuter because I was "unsure about breeding." He's extremely well trained so my vet really doesn't have any suspicions due to aggression or hyper-activity from being left intact or anything like that. I also make sure to work him more since he is a working dog by going on hikes and trails more often so he can expend that energy.

Smooth move!

 

[Fire Metal]

I do have a friend who is a vet. I'd say she's mentally unwell and kinda hates men for valid reasons. But combine the two and she can get pretty aggressive and belligerent. She was ranting about the ethical spading of pets (I get her position, some people do not deserve animals and the thought if them having MORE on their hands is frustrating) and was shouting that all men who don't spade must be sexual deviants. Now while in my case she may be spot on, in this context it was a giant leap, and probably mostly inaccurate. (I can't imagine a majority, or even a large minority are actually zoophiles).

I think its general culture to be wary of men with how the news reports. The best you can do is understand their pov and move on

So sick of the "men are bad" bullshit our society keeps pedaling. Just tell her what I told my vet, mutilating pets bodies for our convenience is just savage. "It may prevent certain health issues" has about as much ground as "if I cut out my colon, I'll never get colon cancer," so all that's left is determining whether or not you're a responsible owner that can prevent unwanted pregnancies.