As someone who has worked in the industry, nobody ever thinks that way… except maybe me lol
Vets and Suspision
- Thread starter chzny
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iwanttobeabottom
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
People are, more often than not, their own worst enemies.
They get anxious and think that other people know what they're thinking, then they act weird and give themselves up.
Just be a regular dickhead off the street and be nonchalant. Just be a gray man.
Demigod
Citizen of Zooville
Lots of people will accuse you of strange things regardless of what you do.
DogLover09
Tourist
tell them that sterilizing a perfectly healthy animal is unethical in most cases if you wouldn't do it to your human children why do it to an animal?
Dogspride
Zooville Settler
That’s just fucking strange sounds like a money grab. That or he’s a boot licker for the spca.Depends on where you are.
In the great area of Cascadia, I have never met a vet who gave a hoot. But when I was in the prairies, particularily Manitoba, the vets refused to take us as a patient unless we neutered or spayed the dog
The vet I go to with both male & female dogs all intact never even mentioned it.
Vetpro
Tourist
True as a veterinarian i only recommend this if medically necessary for the health and well being of the animal.
Dogspride
Zooville Settler
As a vet what do you recommend for a cheap dog wormer? I know the opinion it is different based on location. I’m in Canada and use ivermectin 2-3 times a year. I have also used safe guard wormer for goats. That one was recommended by a US vet. but hard to get here.
Vetpro
Tourist
Cardinal Labs Remedy+Rercovery less expensive and works good
Dogspride
Zooville Settler
Thank you and it’s nice to have a vet on here.
YourLocalZooGal
Tourist
Just say that there isn’t any reason
to spay as your more than capable of training without doing something invasive for her temperament/behaviour and aren’t worried about her getting pregnant from a stud
Cooper22z
Zooville Settler
There’s no need to over explain yourself.
Just say you don’t want to spay her. Some may bring up pyometra and say you should spay due to that. Sometimes its medically necessary based on your breed but even then I PERSONALLY think you should wait until 2 years old so your dog can fully develop. There are different types of spaying
Go for laparoscopic ovariectomy (I believe that’s the least invasive and best type of spay)
But if you don’t want to spay, just show you’re aware of the risks. You can state you MAY breed her. OR simply state you don’t want to spay and don’t like to spay your animals. Simple as that. They cannot force you to spay your dog.
doornaildorthy
Citizen of Zooville
There's some good tips on this post.
Knutshack
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
I think it's wrong to sterlise a dog unless it's a medical emergency, I think it's unfair to force a dog denial of sexual behaviour and pleasure and I also think it's unfair and cruel to mutilate animals to comfort and please others. I get some people may not have thought so much about sterilisation but why would they forcibly try to persuade you to get your dog sterilised?
LadyB
Tourist
I had similar experience with my vet, my boy is intact and once I decided its the way forward that topic is closed. Or perhaps I am lucky that she does not pursue or never bothered me further or seemed inquisitive.
Areion
Zooville Settler
I don't know why this topic is an issue..
The world veterinary association states that it is NOT recommended to neuter your dogs as a routine (cats seems to be complicated).
If your vet says other wise they aren't following the worldwide guidelines and very likely are looking over their own pockets and not your dog.
Behaviour issues are fixed with pills or implants, then you can work with the dog to get better on education. Then reduce the meds gradually.
Even if that doesn't work dogs get better with age and will need to be intact at old age, then you can stop the meds.
This is almost mathematical, not much room for second interpretations here
The world veterinary association states that it is NOT recommended to neuter your dogs as a routine (cats seems to be complicated).
If your vet says other wise they aren't following the worldwide guidelines and very likely are looking over their own pockets and not your dog.
Behaviour issues are fixed with pills or implants, then you can work with the dog to get better on education. Then reduce the meds gradually.
Even if that doesn't work dogs get better with age and will need to be intact at old age, then you can stop the meds.
This is almost mathematical, not much room for second interpretations here
TThhoommaass
Tourist
My thoughts on this. If they ask just say no. Don't make it a big deal. If they insist, insist no. If they insist some more it really cannot be ethical of them, so conclude your business, leave a bad review, and find a new vet. Whatever you do don't stand out, do not be the "protests to much". Keep it simple, you do not want the procedure for your animal.
SpadeLover200
Lurker
I do have a friend who is a vet. I'd say she's mentally unwell and kinda hates men for valid reasons. But combine the two and she can get pretty aggressive and belligerent. She was ranting about the ethical spading of pets (I get her position, some people do not deserve animals and the thought if them having MORE on their hands is frustrating) and was shouting that all men who don't spade must be sexual deviants. Now while in my case she may be spot on, in this context it was a giant leap, and probably mostly inaccurate. (I can't imagine a majority, or even a large minority are actually zoophiles).
I think its general culture to be wary of men with how the news reports. The best you can do is understand their pov and move on
I think its general culture to be wary of men with how the news reports. The best you can do is understand their pov and move on
carlosbraga00
Tourist
i dont think they ll
UsagiRaine
Zooville Settler
My vet has never really questioned me except for that one time when my boy was a young pup (about neutering). I just told them I didn't want to neuter because I was "unsure about breeding." He's extremely well trained so my vet really doesn't have any suspicions due to aggression or hyper-activity from being left intact or anything like that. I also make sure to work him more since he is a working dog by going on hikes and trails more often so he can expend that energy.
SaraZooville
Citizen of Zooville
Smooth move!