Veterinarian here: ask me anything!

[Deagle113]

Problem:
I was trying to make a pure lube with minimal ingredients, Polymer based lube, dash of salt, distilled water, this was mixed while stirring to active boil then put in a sanitized container. How ever after using I noticed the sheep where wet where they shouldn't be, so that lube was disposed of and after some extra under tail washings they did clear up with out issue.

Intended solution, add antimicrobial.

Considerations:
Sodium benzoate & Chlorobutanol at .05% by mass

Difficulty:
Finding data on how safe and effective this would be for vaginal exposure, based on my knowledge and experiance in general handling this should be well within acceptable ranges, but I figured after this experience I better double check

and what would be a good Ph buffer? I'm thinking a citrate, or an acitate

Oh I love this question. It's science time! I would avoid an antimicrobial because of the vaginal microflora (community of beneficial bacteria) needing to maintain a good balance to be healthy. Overgrowth of certain bacteria who may be resistant to the antibiotic will create conditions for inflammation or infection that would have been unable to establish themselves were the flora healthy.

Citrate is a good pH buffer. If you boil a red cabbage in water, you can make a pH indicator solution to test different concentrations until you get it where you need for the species in question.

Is there a reason you aren't using something like J lube? Seems sort of like re-inventing the wheel here.

 

[Deagle113]

I have read concerns about introducing foreign anything into a female dog's vagina, to the point where I have seen someone post that a human performing oral sex on a female dog is tantamount to being venomous. I am curious on the dangers of, with a female dog:

Canines are not that fragile. There are multiple layers of defense for vaginas -- from different types and consistencies of mucous, to local antibodies on the surface of the membranes, to an entire population of multiple species of beneficial bacteria who all live in a symbiotic community to keep things from overgrowing. "Being venomous" is something I would need to see evidence for before claiming.

- performing oral sex on her

As @OffgridK9lover mentioned, no concerns here. Just make sure your mouth and the area around it is clean, same hygiene
standards you would use with any other species, and you are golden.

- fingering her (after you wash your hands)

I second the caution here. Even when I do vaginal exams, I'm always very careful with a finger. Fingers are hard and can scrape things, and ungloved you've got hair, nails, the fact that when folks get into things they can go much harder and faster with a finger made of bone than would be safe to avoid tears. You can do plenty manually from the outside!

- sexual intercourse (with a clean, washed penis)

Perfectly fine from a medical standpoint! Plenty of better guides on here than me for details xD

- ejaculating inside her

It's always good to take her out for a stroll and to pee post sex. Helps keep things flushed and relieves all that pressure you just put on her bladder. Otherwise, a normal healthy canine should have no problem handling human semen with our paltry teaspoons!

Are these behaviors risky for her health/create higher risk for pyometra? Should any be avoided?

If you could figure out the etiology behind pyometra you would be the hero of the veterinary community. We know a few things, like a possibility of a link between certain types of e coli and receptors on the surface of the uterus, but we really can't point to why it occurs. Maintain good hygiene and your rate isn't any different from any other canine.

Matter of fact, most zoos I know keep such an eagle eye on their companions that they end up catching pyometra far earlier than the general public, which gives you a much better prognosis of treating it.

Assuming your digits and dick are clean, are there other precautions that should be taken when engaging in these activities?

As a precaution, make sure you know what you are getting into because canines are excellent partners and will take your entire heart and not give it back and you won't even mind.

But seriously, follow good safe sexual practices as detailed in some of the good guides on here, work within your companions comfort zone and level, pay attention to behavioral cues and respect their ability to decline advances, and you're well on your way to a wonderful time, veterinary approved!

 

[Deagle113]

Oh goat not another ph indicator! I got enough!

I am, but it either got contaminated between bottling or some thing got in there while doing the business but want some thing with a bit of shelf holding power, and protective should some thing get on there while going in. These are not antibiotics to remind but anti microbial so more in line with preservative and will be trace amounts for the intended formulation

Why I am not making the lube antimicrobial but rather "Just" enough to ensure any incidental contamination is prevented, as most will be flushed out in the end of the intended actions lol.

The sheep don't appreciate showers so much and tend get a bit water logged, except one ewe, she enjoys them now (I had to bring her inside a lot as a lamb due to fly strike on her neck)

Intended species will be sheep/goat.

Citrates, ok!

Like I said I want a simple storable ready to use lube with minimal ingredients with the stuff I'd normally have in my lab. Basically some thing as handy and reliable as KY, but that can be made in batch form from powdered polymer lube with minimal additives.

Gotcha. Good extra info. Let me get a bit of research and pulling up of some papers in! Perfect way to spend a Saturday morning

 

[humananimal]

… canine teats have multiple small canals and "ooze" milk vs the clean jets of a single teat canal of ruminants, …

A woman’s nipple has many ‘canals’ too, One from each lobule in her breast, so she too ‘oozes’ milk in many small jets, like a shover. But woman milk is not nearly as rich in fat.

I have only heard there is one type of worm that can transmit through the milk. It seems there are several.
Can they be dangerous to humans?
I will stick to suckling cows and wife then

 

[humperwumper]

My dog has itchy ears and won't let me put recicort drops or clotrimazole ointment in them or anywhere near him. He'll trust me to poke around in his ears all day long, with or without a sponge, but he hates chemicals!

Anyway, can I put oil in his ears or something similar to at least try and clean them? I have cider vinegar too but haven't tried it yet.

Problem was previously diagnosed as yeast overgrowth. It's not as bad this time but that faint sweet smell is there.

 

[link45]

Hi! I have some questions that I can't find answers. I was wondering if dog cab carry any disease or STD given by someone else?

 

[GAThrawn]

It is possible to get an STD if you shared a dog together, but other than that, they can't give you any standard disease like AIDS. There are occasional diseases you could possibly contract, like leptospirosis, but good hygiene and care of the animal will prevent that!

 

[Miss Bambi]

hi hi!!!

might sound like a dumb question, but i might as well ask :3
would there be any indication to a vet that my dog has been having sex with me? i'm the one being penetrated but i guess i've never looked closely enough to see if that leaves traces or something on him aside from the obvious fluids lol
he's been to the vet several times since we became active and nobody's brought anything up but i'm genuinely curious

 

[UR20Z]

hi hi!!!

might sound like a dumb question, but i might as well ask :3
would there be any indication to a vet that my dog has been having sex with me? i'm the one being penetrated but i guess i've never looked closely enough to see if that leaves traces or something on him aside from the obvious fluids lol
he's been to the vet several times since we became active and nobody's brought anything up but i'm genuinely curious

When it comes to a male critter, lotsa luck figuring out if he's "gettin' any" without actually seeing him doing so. For a female critter, there are at least SOME tells, but other than the screamingly obvious one - "All ya gotta do is look at that load of jizz puddled inside her to know that she's been fucked recently" - or "She's pregnant, so it follows that she musta been boned not too awful long ago", they're pretty subtle. Not impossible to spot, but not as obvious as seeing that her cervix is marinating in a puddle of sperm.

 

[Miss Bambi]

When it comes to a male critter, lotsa luck figuring out if he's "gettin' any" without actually seeing him doing so. For a female critter, there are at least SOME tells, but other than the screamingly obvious one - "All ya gotta do is look at that load of jizz puddled inside her to know that she's been fucked recently" - or "She's pregnant, so it follows that she musta been boned not too awful long ago", they're pretty subtle. Not impossible to spot, but not as obvious as seeing that her cervix is marinating in a puddle of sperm.

yeeeah honestly kinda figured as much from the get go but i wanted to see if a professional knew any other telltale signs... if there are any i think they'd prolly have to go looking pretty hard for them

 

[SavaTheWolf]

Heya, i want to start drawing and i was wondering is there any vet / anat books i can use to learn more about anatomy, genitals, reproductive system of dogs and horsies. Theres art section in the forums, but i would love to do it correct if i am going for realistic view.

 

[Alexander89]

I might be allergic to dog semen... Is it possible to put a condom on a dog to play a little with him? Maybe without the humping part

 

[Kifu]

What microscopic magnification is best for evaluating canine semen?

 

[Gigitzer]

Hello, I've been reading a lot of comments in this thread and I think it's great and I learned a lot. I do have a question, I've brought my dog to the vet recently and he is perfectly healthy and I've been having a good time with him. I wanted to try out new stuff like oral contact, but I am worried about potential risks like diseases, and most importantly, I obviously don't want to cause my dog any distress or harm. So, I guess my question is, is it safe or should I not do it?

 

[Deagle113]

A woman’s nipple has many ‘canals’ too, One from each lobule in her breast, so she too ‘oozes’ milk in many small jets, like a shover. But woman milk is not nearly as rich in fat.

I have only heard there is one type of worm that can transmit through the milk. It seems there are several.
Can they be dangerous to humans?
I will stick to suckling cows and wife then

This has come up quite a few times. According to the best I can find, yes, some of these could theoretically be transmitted to humans from canine milk. It has yet to be documented though.

 

[Deagle113]

My dog has itchy ears and won't let me put recicort drops or clotrimazole ointment in them or anywhere near him. He'll trust me to poke around in his ears all day long, with or without a sponge, but he hates chemicals!

Anyway, can I put oil in his ears or something similar to at least try and clean them? I have cider vinegar too but haven't tried it yet.

Problem was previously diagnosed as yeast overgrowth. It's not as bad this time but that faint sweet smell is there.

Does he also have seasonal allergies? Sometimes the itchy ears are a cycle that flares up and then back down again. What sort of oil are you suggesting, and how do you see that helping his ears?

 

[Deagle113]

hi hi!!!

might sound like a dumb question, but i might as well ask :3
would there be any indication to a vet that my dog has been having sex with me? i'm the one being penetrated but i guess i've never looked closely enough to see if that leaves traces or something on him aside from the obvious fluids lol
he's been to the vet several times since we became active and nobody's brought anything up but i'm genuinely curious

Nope! When we are at the clinic, we are in medical exam mode, and not thinking along any of those lines, especially with a well cared for and happy dog. The only time I spend a lot of extra time is in abuse cases where something is not right with the patient behaviorally, or I see recent injuries or a lot of unexplained fear toward the person who brought them in. Then I do some digging.

But we aren't human docs, and I usually don't spend any time at all thinking about the human end of the pair of the two of you beyond being pleasant and visiting a bit.

 

[Deagle113]

Heya, i want to start drawing and i was wondering is there any vet / anat books i can use to learn more about anatomy, genitals, reproductive system of dogs and horsies. Theres art section in the forums, but i would love to do it correct if i am going for realistic view.

Oooo! The veterinary books are going to be expensive since they include all the medical info as well, but your academic library near you may have them, or be able to get them via inter library loan! I used Miller's anatomy of the dog during vet school and that has a lot of excellent muscle anatomy and such for drawing. You may be better off though doing an art specific one, like Elliot Goldfinger's "Animal Anatomy for Artists" though it doesn't include EVERYTHING you want to draw xD

 

[Deagle113]

I might be allergic to dog semen... Is it possible to put a condom on a dog to play a little with him? Maybe without the humping part

Putting anything on him, and having him be erect, without the humping part is going to be difficult. Could you clarify what exactly you mean?

 

[Deagle113]

What microscopic magnification is best for evaluating canine semen?

Semen evaluation is amazing and really fun to do. You should be decent with 400x to look at the general morphology. If you want more detail, however, any basic lab microscope that contains the three most common objectives should cut it. Look in your vet or medical school colleges -- they often have an location where they auction out old equipment, and you can score a decent microscope from a retiring lab for quite cheap!

 

[erphy]

nce got an interesting quip from a male vet about my late late woofy wife ! one of those things I will wonder about till the grave.

I'll bite, what was the "quip"?

Thats all I need, my wife taking my girl to the vet and them saying "oh I see you are having her bred".

 

[Deagle113]

Hello, I've been reading a lot of comments in this thread and I think it's great and I learned a lot. I do have a question, I've brought my dog to the vet recently and he is perfectly healthy and I've been having a good time with him. I wanted to try out new stuff like oral contact, but I am worried about potential risks like diseases, and most importantly, I obviously don't want to cause my dog any distress or harm. So, I guess my question is, is it safe or should I not do it?

When you say oral contact, do you mean kissing or fellatio? I ask because both carry different sets of advice. (Dog's are splendid kissers xD)

 

[Miss Bambi]

Nope! When we are at the clinic, we are in medical exam mode, and not thinking along any of those lines, especially with a well cared for and happy dog. The only time I spend a lot of extra time is in abuse cases where something is not right with the patient behaviorally, or I see recent injuries or a lot of unexplained fear toward the person who brought them in. Then I do some digging.

But we aren't human docs, and I usually don't spend any time at all thinking about the human end of the pair of the two of you beyond being pleasant and visiting a bit.

this is an awesome answer, thanks so much!!! <3

 

[Deagle113]

I'll bite, what was the "quip"?

Thats all I need, my wife taking my girl to the vet and them saying "oh I see you are having her bred".

My opinion about "vet questions regarding an intact dog" is there isn't anything wrong whatsoever with keeping your companion intact. There's a lot of decent health concerns and reasons for both sides of the spay/neuter coin, and it's not on me to even bring up reproductive status unless that's the reason for presentation at the clinic.

Too many folks are made to feel terrible or even bullied by medical professionals "when are you getting him fixed" "do you want to schedule the spay today" and more, even after the client has more than politely informed them that it isn't happening. Leave people alone. At least in the US, we have clearly seen that high volume spay and neuter doesn't really work very well to control animal overpopulation, and what we need is a culture shift, starting at the vet clinic.

 

[SandraF1989]

Do you think you could see signs on a male dog, that he's fucking women? Change in behaviour, attitude or something?
Also, kissing with dogs? What about bacteria etc? I don't want to come home looking like i have herpes all of a sudden

 

[erphy]

Well he knew I didn't breed her, been going to there for a while, then one day as we where leaving he just looked at me and smirked and said "Now that is a working pussy!" as she had her tail up and doing her usual strut.

Not much of a way to respond to that so just kept walking out.

Wow, I wouldn't know what to make of that. I mean a zoo would avoid comments like that as to not draw any attention or suspicion. Then a non-zoo checking out a dog's genitals and complimenting it as a "pussy" is also far out there!

 

[humperwumper]

Does he also have seasonal allergies? Sometimes the itchy ears are a cycle that flares up and then back down again. What sort of oil are you suggesting, and how do you see that helping his ears?

I don't know. Not seasonal I think, but I only got him in the summer. Maybe food related? He has quite a sensitive tummy.

 

[humananimal]

Semen evaluation is amazing and really fun to do. You should be decent with 400x to look at the general morphology. If you want more detail, however, any basic lab microscope that contains the three most common objectives should cut it. Look in your vet or medical school colleges -- they often have an location where they auction out old equipment, and you can score a decent microscope from a retiring lab for quite cheap!

EDIT :
400x is excellent. I would never buy one without the lighting and lenses for what we call ‘interferens mikroskopi’.
It provides a much better contrast, so it is easy to see bacteriae. With normal lighting it is difficult to identify the bacteria because you are easy blinded by the background light.

I have used it a lot for bacteriae in urin samples.
And to look on human semen (mine too) and fungus too.

 

[Gigitzer]

When you say oral contact, do you mean kissing or fellatio? I ask because both carry different sets of advice. (Dog's are splendid kissers xD)

I meant fellatio, but I am unsure about kissing too. But, if they are splendid kissers, then I guess it's fine

 

[marikamia]

I was very scared of her first vet visit after our first time... and I was scared of my first gynecological visit too. the first was done about a month ago and the vet explicitly asked me if by any chance we "finally" mated him. In short, she definitely noticed that something in her sexual life had changed! I told her yes and that was it... he's fine and, in fact, better than last year!
The second visit, mine however, I still have to do. I don't think he'll see anything strange in me... but I have some anxiety and I think it's normal. Maybe the gynecologist will notice that my sex life has become much more regular than before. After all, I'm very young. We will see! Sooner or later I'll have to do it: if anything, I'll tell you how it went.

And here's my question... I read somewhere that in the case of a confirmed zoonosis the doctor is obliged to report the case. I also imagine that it depends a lot on the country in which it is diagnosed. In your opinion, what could be the zoonoses that could be reported to the competent authorities?