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Geez, I missed out on a lot today...

I'm sort of on the fence for this whole "added precautions" thing. I have my suspicions that the wrong party will find a way to break into these verification protocols and use it to identify us. I fear this will blow up into what happened with the previous Zooville site from 2 months ago.

I just recently started talking to you guys, but I also fear that this bastion of ours will be taken away before its time.
 
It's been my experience that most fakes and trolls self identify. If you have questions, do an "all posts by" search and scan for previous screw ups. If you don't like what you see, click "block".
 
UR20Z said:
Yer fuckin' right it escalated quickly. Because it's a dumb-as-fuck idea for a "kink" site. Never mind that it's very possibly the only "hot-button" item there is for me. The internet is already privacy-hostile enough without some triggered whiner begging for a way to remove even more of the few shreds of privacy that are left.
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i hear ya. and i am sorry my dumb idea got you as riled as it did. yes, i could use the ignore feature, but i try not to do that. and on the last site, ignore didnt mean that person couldn't see my posts, only that i couldn't see their's. that was problematic for me. in this case, over the past couple weeks one person followed me to almost any and every thread i participated in to smear me and harass.

i simply was thinking that maybe an opt-in option might make it easier. i think all the comments as to why this was NOT implemented or offered make perfect sense.

and as others mentioned, a "verification" thread somewhere is just as easy. let people post if they want. and no harm no foul to anyone.

in the end, all i want is a space where i feel safe to share with others, be it pics, vids, stories, or just conversation. again, i am sorry that my suggestion was so upsetting.
 
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in this case, over the past couple weeks one person followed me to almost any and every thread i participated in to smear me and harass.
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I have to say I would try the ignore function much more, if I were you. - Did you report them?
This "verified" idea to me just seems to shift the problem how one would prove anything on the internet.
 
Get verified or fuck off !! Especially for women
a simple photo with account details sent to mods and a v on the profile would do it , voluntary of course and if anyone declines you can draw your own conclusions
 
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Females get the brunt of being pursued as men have always had to bare the burden of performance in seeking a mating strategy while finding a sexual partner. Females, on the other hand, have it a bit easier as they are the intended desired and have less burden to perform, but have to make a determination of selection. Do they want to be bred or mated with? Natural biological selection and evolutionary work here, nothing new. As my biology professor used to say, sperm chases egg, not the other way around. Sperm is cheap, eggs are expensive. The primary objective of the human male is to exist in a dominance hierarchy until your last day on earth, a breeding reproductive strategy. Males must perform. In fact, it's part of our inborn nature to want to perform for females because it is the most deductive way to solving our reproductive problem-that is, to spread our seed as wide and far as possible. Sound familiar? Think of the male dog smelling the female scent, attempting to hump and breed as many females as he can in the wild. He must compete and perform. If you're the desirable female(s) on this forum, you're going to be pursued and sought after. It's natural. When you advertise with Avatars, photos or videos, you're signaling. You may, in fact, have to deal with competition with other females over attention, and that's another fact of reality within a social forum or setting. I shant delve into the psychology here, but I'd suspect most of you get the gist. Privacy is paramount. I'm concerned with someone being stalked or harassed outside this forum, or exposed in the public. If someone is an adult entertainer, and wants to allude to such, I would think the best way to bring attention to themselves is to demonstrate their talents and send those interested to private chat or email or otherwise away from this forum, but that's likely a violation of policy. Aside from that, I consider this forum strictly entertainment and don't give too much serious attention to individuals. We live in a highly volatile, potentially heightened sexualized civilization societally today, very much dominated by female dominance and dating strategies and I'd contend that most women in this forum know this. Everyone needs to be respectful and behave as ladies and gentlemen should.
 
All the main sites demand verification (non zoo) before you can even message or post and the biggest in particular has reported a huge drop in fake profiles
i honestly believe there isn’t a dozen genuine females in zooville or do we continue in fantasyland while trying to portray ourselves as genuine lovers of animals
 
Wasbitchpolly said:
All the main sites demand verification (non zoo) before you can even message or post and the biggest in particular has reported a huge drop in fake profiles
i honestly believe there isn’t a dozen genuine females in zooville or do we continue in fantasyland while trying to portray ourselves as genuine lovers of animals
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Spot on remark.
 
Wasbitchpolly said:
All the main sites demand verification (non zoo) before you can even message or post and the biggest in particular has reported a huge drop in fake profiles
i honestly believe there isn’t a dozen genuine females in zooville or do we continue in fantasyland while trying to portray ourselves as genuine lovers of animals
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One of the big dating websites had a spam and fake profile problem, too. They asked an economist if he could resolve that problem for them. His answer was that one should make sending messages (as you rightly remark already) more costly. If you cannot send unlimited messages for free, the cost involved doesn't make it worth your while and/or people have to carefully consider first, whom or what they use their limited messages on.

Perhaps we could try a tiered approach exactly like that - if someone makes a profile, he can send - say - one PM. Only after reaching higher tiers (simply the lapse of time he is logged in, the amount of posts made and or likes received), more PMs per day are enabled.

Or you can do the verify thing. I am honestly indifferent towards that, as I am not here for meeting masses of women and my first expectation on the internet is always that everything is faked.
 
Knottymilf said:
in the end, all i want is a space where i feel safe to share with others, be it pics, vids, stories, or just conversation.
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I don't think this is a dumb idea at all; in fact, I think it's a good idea. If people have a problem with an optional feature, then that's entirely their problem, not anybody else's.

It seems there are certainly issues with implementing something like this. But at worst I think nothing would change, and at best it would help. Still, it might make more sense if the ignore feature here hid a particular person from you as well as hiding you from that particular person. However, I have no idea how that feature works yet, since I haven't actually used it.
 
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Wasbitchpolly said:
All the main sites demand verification (non zoo) before you can even message or post and the biggest in particular has reported a huge drop in fake profiles
i honestly believe there isn’t a dozen genuine females in zooville or do we continue in fantasyland while trying to portray ourselves as genuine lovers of animals
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All the main sites require verification in the form of responding to an email so they know that your email address is real and that it is not spam. They DO NOT verify you as a male or female.
This is a discussion site - NOT A DATING SITE. Since when do you have to verified in order to carry on a conversation?
If you have enough brains to have decent conversation - and if you have the ability to do so while still respecting others - Then there is no need to be verified as female - or as male. In my experience I have found that I can have nice conversations with both sexes and the thought of what sex they were never entered into my mind.
If you feel the need to verify yourself as female then start a thread "wasbitchpolly Verification Thread" and post all the pictures and videos of yourself that you would want to prove yourself to everyone here.
 
knotinterested said:
All the main sites require verification in the form of responding to an email so they know that your email address is real and that it is not spam. They DO NOT verify you as a male or female.
This is a discussion site - NOT A DATING SITE. Since when do you have to verified in order to carry on a conversation?
If you have enough brains to have decent conversation - and if you have the ability to do so while still respecting others - Then there is no need to be verified as female - or as male. In my experience I have found that I can have nice conversations with both sexes and the thought of what sex they were never entered into my mind.
If you feel the need to verify yourself as female then start a thread "wasbitchpolly Verification Thread" and post all the pictures and videos of yourself that you would want to prove yourself to everyone here.
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Helps get rid of fakes using other people’s photos
 
Wasbitchpolly said:
Helps get rid of fakes using other people’s photos
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Other people photos? You mean the photos that we all use as an avatar? Almost everyone here uses a photo that is not their own for their avatar. I change my avatar photo daily and most are photos that are not me. I tell that in my profile so I am at least honest about it.
Or is your meaning of the people that post pictures on the threads? I've seen people criticized for using other people pictures and for photoshoping too. That is up to each individual what they do in that respect and no amount of verification is going to stop it if that is what they want to do.
If you want to stop the use of photos then maybe you would want to make it so no photos at all can be used here. Maybe no Art either because that might be created by someone else! The site would then become dull and little enjoyment being here. Is that the type of thing that you would want?

And as I said before,

If you feel the need to verify yourself as female then start a thread "wasbitchpolly Verification Thread" and post all the pictures and videos of yourself that you would want to prove yourself to everyone here.
 
SyzygySin said:
I don't think this is a dumb idea at all; in fact, I think it's a good idea. If people have a problem with an optional feature, then that's entirely their problem, not anybody else's.
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Optional features become everybody else’s problem when they become de facto requirements. Optionally verifying users shifts responsibility away from harassers where it belongs and onto their victims. It validates the position of the harassing person who probably isn’t contributing to the site in any meaningful way. It places new users at a disadvantage when their credibility is already zero. And it creates a permanent underclass of users who go to great lengths to protect their privacy on the site, like me, along with anybody who declines to verify their genitalia on principle.
 
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pferdefreund said:
One of the big dating websites had a spam and fake profile problem, too. They asked an economist if he could resolve that problem for them. His answer was that one should make sending messages (as you rightly remark already) more costly. If you cannot send unlimited messages for free, the cost involved doesn't make it worth your while and/or people have to carefully consider first, whom or what they use their limited messages on.

Perhaps we could try a tiered approach exactly like that - if someone makes a profile, he can send - say - one PM. Only after reaching higher tiers (simply the lapse of time he is logged in, the amount of posts made and or likes received), more PMs per day are enabled.

Or you can do the verify thing. I am honestly indifferent towards that, as I am not here for meeting masses of women and my first expectation on the internet is always that everything is faked.
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For people with low incomes, this becomes a problem. Paying just to be able to communicate, if we're already struggling with dating? This only makes it harder for the unlucky fools like me to find a partner.
 
MareButtUddrrLovrr said:
For people with low incomes, this becomes a problem. Paying just to be able to communicate, if we're already struggling with dating? This only makes it harder for the unlucky fools like me to find a partner.
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First of all, I LOOOOOOVVE your profile pic

and second, I would like to clear up - since you say low income - I am not talking about paying money. When I said "costly" and "free", I refered to any kind of effort. Any effort is a cost to reach something. Like opportunity cost can be the time invested. That was one of the points given in the () as example. If with making a profile you can immediately blast out 500 PMs to the 500 female profiles, the cost/effort is almost zero. And it is no wonder everywoman is swamped in stupid PMs as a strategy of wide-net-throw fishing seems attractive. It seemingly compensates the low probability of an answer with maximal generation of "answer possibilities" by sending so many messages.

If it says you can only send 3 PMs a day after being active for 3 months in some tbd way, the cost in form of waiting is higher. This will deter people to do a quick drive by here to see if they do get anything from a wide cast net of PM spamming everyone. Make a profile and uggghh wait three months? No - go back to google and search a community that doesn't have such costs/barriers involved. You are horny now, not in three months...

So no worries.
 
I'm sure this is more of an issue for female members, but how's this?? ?

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(... and for those of you who may think the vids I've posted are not actually mine, I invite you to look at my squat, fat, paddle hands in the vids and make your own judgement. They were produced nearly 20 years ago, but I can still see the resemblance. ;) )
 
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knotinterested said:
Other people photos? You mean the photos that we all use as an avatar? Almost everyone here uses a photo that is not their own for their avatar. I change my avatar photo daily and most are photos that are not me. I tell that in my profile so I am at least honest about it.
Or is your meaning of the people that post pictures on the threads? I've seen people criticized for using other people pictures and for photoshoping too. That is up to each individual what they do in that respect and no amount of verification is going to stop it if that is what they want to do.
If you want to stop the use of photos then maybe you would want to make it so no photos at all can be used here. Maybe no Art either because that might be created by someone else! The site would then become dull and little enjoyment being here. Is that the type of thing that you would want?

And as I said before,

If you feel the need to verify yourself as female then start a thread "wasbitchpolly Verification Thread" and post all the pictures and videos of yourself that you would want to prove yourself to everyone here.
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It’s not just about photos , it’s about men claiming to be women and a simple verification makes sure we are who we say we are ........you seem very anti verification
 
Wasbitchpolly said:
It’s not just about photos , it’s about men claiming to be women and a simple verification makes sure we are who we say we are ........you seem very anti verification
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And as I said before,

If you feel the need to verify yourself as female then start a thread "wasbitchpolly Verification Thread" and post all the pictures and videos of yourself that you would want to prove yourself to everyone here.
 
I am still at a loss how any of this can disable people to fake stuff. If a well-faked photo is checked by yourself in a PM, if it is posted in your personal verification thread, or if we burden the mods with looking at them...

how does any of that defend against that in all these instances people can fall for fakes which are carried out well?
I really don't understand the mechanism which is proposed.
 
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Online anonymity is typically very important to zoos. I (personally) am not going to question the authenticity of anyone's claims in this forum unless blatantly obvious evidence to the contrary is presented. If you say "this is me", I'll go with that unless somehow it's presented otherwise. And even then, I don't really care that much about it. What's important to me here is genuine zoophilia and discussion/support/media thereof. Identify however you want.
I'm a dude. I fucking love female dogs and horses and zoo porn. I love females who love dogs as well. It's all good as long as you're not abusing animals or being an asshole. :)
 
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pferdefreund said:
I am still at a loss how any of this can disable people to fake stuff. If a well-faked photo is checked by yourself in a PM, if it is posted in your personal verification thread, or if we burden the mods with looking at them...

how does any of that defend against that in all these instances people can fall for fakes which are carried out well?
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It can't! If verification were required there would still be people on this forum that would make claims such as "Oh they used a fake picture" and continue to harass others. Some people are childish that way. There is no need for verification on this site. Members here earn their trust and reputation by their actions and by their words. Most People Here are intelligent enough to see who is fake and who is not.
 
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