Met up with someone, horrible experience
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Lunarpixie
Tourist
sounds to me like the guy was just a very shy person, and the dog owner took things too seriously, i knew someone like that, he was actually very tender, but the way he talked made other people misjudge him a lot, he had a very goofy personality, i think the dog owner should've gone lighter on the guy, not as harsh, and if something were to happen you would be standing next to him supervising so i don't see what was the big deal about, and the guy payed an 800 dollar hotel that says a lot, if it was a creep he would've paid a 20 dollar hotel with no video surveillance and steal your belongings, he paid 800 dollars not because he had a lot of money, because in his story he cares for his grandparents so i assume he's below middle class, i'm guessing he paid that much because it was to be a monumental experience for him so he invested in a good spot, lol 
uncledude
BANNED
I spoke okami about this before anything was posted here and he told me everything exactly as he said it here. He has absolutely no reason whatsoever to feed me a line of bullshit about this. He’s met other people from ZV and everything went fine... he’s telling the truth.
he *did* do the right thing by bailing... the dude was sketchy AF. Concern for the safety of ones self and dogs is not only a legitimate reason, but a great reason to get the fuck out of dodge.
finally, if you’re totally sketched out and worried about the safety of yourself and your dogs after someone has followed behind you staring at your dogs... while you try to engage him in conversation repeatedly over the course of an hour, only to get a handful of one word responses mumbled back... A. Youre senses are telling you the right thing, because that is totally fucking sketchy, and B. You have no obligation to be courteous to someone like that. you’re trying to get the fuck out of dodge... the last thing you need to do is telling the guy you’re trying to get away from, (and never talk to again) what you’re doing! He’ll figure it out eventually... he’ll be fine... but this shouldn’t even come into your mind in a situation like that I because if you’re thinking right you should be thinking about the safety of your dogs and yourself while severing all ties to the sketchy dude as quickly and efficiently as possible. If you are ever in a similar situation and you feel morally obligated to let the guy know that you don’t think it’s going to work out and you’re sorry but you have to bail then by all means go for it, but don’t judge someone before you walk a mile in their shoes... everyone thinks they would have said and done things differently... that they would have done everything right after having time to think about things while sitting comfortably In front of their computer. However, actually being in a situation like that is Most likely a lot more stressful than most people think. I think people should consider this kind of thing before making any kind of subjective assessment of a situation like this. thats Just my opinion though...
calikennelmaster
Citizen of Zooville
Bottom line is that EVERYONE has second thoughts and potential cold feet before they meet up to have sex with dogs. maybe you werent his perfect match in a game where everything can often need to line out absolutely perfectly for even a chance encounter., maybe you chatted TOO MUCH and built up a fantasy or expectations or demands or requirements that exceeded what he was actually able to deliver. or a multitude of other potential causes.
you got to look at what you were trying to accomplish here and put everything in the balance, and more importantly dont act like you trust in owners or society has been crumbled because some guy made plans then ghosted you. that happens to normies all the time. throw having dogs and sex into the equation and multipl the likely effects 1000% percent.
maybe he wasnt legit. if he was. then bottom line is he just wasnt that into you.. and THATS IT. he owes you no explanation as to why and honestly you may be better off KNOT knowing. its a huge risk. especially for the owner.
Take it as a lesson learned that you never pay for a room until youve met the person at least in the parking lot, smiled and can be like.. ya wanna go in and talk. and then 800 dollars for the room. lol fuckkin retarded. motel six runs ya a hundred bucks and call me cheap but i wont even put that on the line. maybe i just have low expectations.
could be a byproduct of meeting with.. honestly dozens of people over the last couple decades with me and my previous dogs.
heres ,my outlook on meetups, which is frequently panned by others on these forums, often with no positive experiences or meets of their own.
when possible, its better to meet sooner then later.. provided you can adequately vet the other person is legit. these days its as easy as camming with them after a few chats. or just having a good feeling and deciding to take a risk.
ive always been quite cavalier myself. and ive been lucky. but youre going to have to take risk no matter what doing this and if youre not comfortable woith that, then dont waste your time trying to set anything up/
a lot of guys on here as extremely SUS as well. although in my opinion pretty much any one who feels or acts like they have everything to hide can never be considered trustworthy.
being fortunate enough to travel and reside temporarily in places that are work adjacent for my projects, ive found the most successful method, for myself, is the folowing.
first i vet the person, and then when i decide its legit and get a good feeling, i lay it out like this:
This is me. this is my address. this is what it looks like on the google map and this is what you can expect inside. if you want to meet up, this is how itll work out. were going to ROLE PLAY that were old friends. we talk alone frequently, but havent seen each other in quite a while. you happen to be in town and are just stopping by to catch up. were meeting to say hi. maybe say hi and then have a drink. maybe stop by, say hi, have a drink and something miught happen. wehn you show up.. there are NO expectations, other then were going to be friendly, and pretend like were normal people getting to know each other.
when you come over, of course its going to be hair raising and awkwards because youre meeting up with a stanger to have sex with a dog. so lets pretend like we arent. come and over and just say HI.
funny thinkg about girls that come over to my house just to say hi and catch up. about.. half of em.. prolly closer ot three quarters.. wind up getting fucked by my dog. shrgs. i dunno what to tell ya., occupational hazard I guess. they seem to come pretty hard.
and then I leave it at that. and thats more then it needs to be., and when people flake on me, and they do, and ive had it from online to in the driveway to inside the house to hi ohmygawd i cant do this, to running out after my dog made them come (lol all the wy to staying and loving it and coming back over and over again) each experience is different, with my hope and intention they will be enjoyable, and repeatabe, as i add new anf fun people into my life.
easy peasy. no pressure. no expectations. sometimes ill have to pick the gal up because girls that want to have sex with dogs often cant drive. i let em know that in exchange for the honor and privilege of being able to pick them up and try this.. they can tell me at any time, for any reason, theyd like to go home, and itll happen with no panning or any questions asked. maybe a few minutes to get my shit together but thats IT. theyre gonna be nervous as fk. the least i can do is offer some kind of saefty net and then actually follow that through.
its strange to me how ive never had a bad experience compared to so many,. you coming over to say hi and then deciding fuck this is not a bad experience for me. thats somewhat normalk inmy life. maybe next time. im persistant. and i get that you understand that part. but all the same..
i never break down oir take it personally in the dog game.
with relationships, and life.. it either works, or it doesnt. and when it works, you dont have to ask any questions about it because youre both working to make sure everything falls into place. once you have to start asking questions, realize the jig is already up and just take it for what it is.
maybe ill meet with them and not be interested,. its happened a lot with girls who use doctored pics, decades old, or wind up super predator aggresiuve and sex starved towards me or my dog. a polite im sorry but im not feeling it.. is all thats neccesary.
and for the gals that just feel like the hvae to commit and cant back down.. I set it up so where ever the meet up with me.. they show up first, get dolled up and get ready.. put a blindfold on and just wait patiently for me to come by in short order and iniaitate some fun.
rest assured if ive ever popped in and seen something i wasnt down with, id pop right back out. lol why ask why after that point too...
sure you can have all sorts of feelings about it, but who gives a shit. if you want to do this for reals, get your own dogs, or get ready to try again and take another chance. ive had a fair amount of success with long term dog friendly girls, as much as the others as far as my lifes been concerned.. and i haven't given up or quit yet because frankly, im a romantic. not only have i had a ton of fun in life but i know if i keep looking, im going to fin that one, for real, doggy forevr girl. or what have you. because im in it.
you still need to get your toes wet tho.
huge difference between talking online and the meet. so get that out of the way as fast as possible with no serious commitment. my two cents. and after yopu meet.. youll knw in seconds or minutes where its going togo/
dog owners have the biggest risks. i could give a shit about what people think, but i dont want to do time or have my dogs taken away/. lucky for me im in a lenient state., as good as any, and its not to hard to spot girls that are legit and want to fuck dogs,
ill admit to having accouple ive chatted a ton with but never really stepped all the way up to commit, and explain why to you once again. ultimately.. just not that interested. i was with man others tho. id encourage you to go find your many others.,
its fuckin hard out there in life. to land a good job. a good place.. a good life. you think you knock it out of the park every time
?> fuck no. first time? hardly never.
twenty something years ad dozens of people later.. your one bad experience wouldnt amount to a blip on my radar. and it shouldn't or you, either.
just my personal opinion, which is frequently disagreed with on this board.. but rarely by anyone happy and successful in their own zoo plus other person relationship.
good luck. dont give up. itll all work out if you keep putting in effort, and staying safe. as safe as possible. no one gives a shit if someone finds out YOU are curious about having sex with a dog. its not that big a deal. just have a relitively low expectation for the rest of humanity and youll do fine. it comes a lot easier after your experiences accumulate and spread out to etiehr side of the good / bad bell curve.,
go find yourself a dog to fuck., dont give up. dont feel bad, dont keep tripping on why unless the same thing happens over and over again.
its fun. i highly recommend it.
tl/dr? boo hoo.
yeh should speell check and grammerly this one.. but im not gonna. cheers!
you got to look at what you were trying to accomplish here and put everything in the balance, and more importantly dont act like you trust in owners or society has been crumbled because some guy made plans then ghosted you. that happens to normies all the time. throw having dogs and sex into the equation and multipl the likely effects 1000% percent.
maybe he wasnt legit. if he was. then bottom line is he just wasnt that into you.. and THATS IT. he owes you no explanation as to why and honestly you may be better off KNOT knowing. its a huge risk. especially for the owner.
Take it as a lesson learned that you never pay for a room until youve met the person at least in the parking lot, smiled and can be like.. ya wanna go in and talk. and then 800 dollars for the room. lol fuckkin retarded. motel six runs ya a hundred bucks and call me cheap but i wont even put that on the line. maybe i just have low expectations.
could be a byproduct of meeting with.. honestly dozens of people over the last couple decades with me and my previous dogs.
heres ,my outlook on meetups, which is frequently panned by others on these forums, often with no positive experiences or meets of their own.
when possible, its better to meet sooner then later.. provided you can adequately vet the other person is legit. these days its as easy as camming with them after a few chats. or just having a good feeling and deciding to take a risk.
ive always been quite cavalier myself. and ive been lucky. but youre going to have to take risk no matter what doing this and if youre not comfortable woith that, then dont waste your time trying to set anything up/
a lot of guys on here as extremely SUS as well. although in my opinion pretty much any one who feels or acts like they have everything to hide can never be considered trustworthy.
being fortunate enough to travel and reside temporarily in places that are work adjacent for my projects, ive found the most successful method, for myself, is the folowing.
first i vet the person, and then when i decide its legit and get a good feeling, i lay it out like this:
This is me. this is my address. this is what it looks like on the google map and this is what you can expect inside. if you want to meet up, this is how itll work out. were going to ROLE PLAY that were old friends. we talk alone frequently, but havent seen each other in quite a while. you happen to be in town and are just stopping by to catch up. were meeting to say hi. maybe say hi and then have a drink. maybe stop by, say hi, have a drink and something miught happen. wehn you show up.. there are NO expectations, other then were going to be friendly, and pretend like were normal people getting to know each other.
when you come over, of course its going to be hair raising and awkwards because youre meeting up with a stanger to have sex with a dog. so lets pretend like we arent. come and over and just say HI.
funny thinkg about girls that come over to my house just to say hi and catch up. about.. half of em.. prolly closer ot three quarters.. wind up getting fucked by my dog. shrgs. i dunno what to tell ya., occupational hazard I guess. they seem to come pretty hard.
and then I leave it at that. and thats more then it needs to be., and when people flake on me, and they do, and ive had it from online to in the driveway to inside the house to hi ohmygawd i cant do this, to running out after my dog made them come (lol all the wy to staying and loving it and coming back over and over again) each experience is different, with my hope and intention they will be enjoyable, and repeatabe, as i add new anf fun people into my life.
easy peasy. no pressure. no expectations. sometimes ill have to pick the gal up because girls that want to have sex with dogs often cant drive. i let em know that in exchange for the honor and privilege of being able to pick them up and try this.. they can tell me at any time, for any reason, theyd like to go home, and itll happen with no panning or any questions asked. maybe a few minutes to get my shit together but thats IT. theyre gonna be nervous as fk. the least i can do is offer some kind of saefty net and then actually follow that through.
its strange to me how ive never had a bad experience compared to so many,. you coming over to say hi and then deciding fuck this is not a bad experience for me. thats somewhat normalk inmy life. maybe next time. im persistant. and i get that you understand that part. but all the same..
i never break down oir take it personally in the dog game.
with relationships, and life.. it either works, or it doesnt. and when it works, you dont have to ask any questions about it because youre both working to make sure everything falls into place. once you have to start asking questions, realize the jig is already up and just take it for what it is.
maybe ill meet with them and not be interested,. its happened a lot with girls who use doctored pics, decades old, or wind up super predator aggresiuve and sex starved towards me or my dog. a polite im sorry but im not feeling it.. is all thats neccesary.
and for the gals that just feel like the hvae to commit and cant back down.. I set it up so where ever the meet up with me.. they show up first, get dolled up and get ready.. put a blindfold on and just wait patiently for me to come by in short order and iniaitate some fun.
rest assured if ive ever popped in and seen something i wasnt down with, id pop right back out. lol why ask why after that point too...
sure you can have all sorts of feelings about it, but who gives a shit. if you want to do this for reals, get your own dogs, or get ready to try again and take another chance. ive had a fair amount of success with long term dog friendly girls, as much as the others as far as my lifes been concerned.. and i haven't given up or quit yet because frankly, im a romantic. not only have i had a ton of fun in life but i know if i keep looking, im going to fin that one, for real, doggy forevr girl. or what have you. because im in it.
you still need to get your toes wet tho.
huge difference between talking online and the meet. so get that out of the way as fast as possible with no serious commitment. my two cents. and after yopu meet.. youll knw in seconds or minutes where its going togo/
dog owners have the biggest risks. i could give a shit about what people think, but i dont want to do time or have my dogs taken away/. lucky for me im in a lenient state., as good as any, and its not to hard to spot girls that are legit and want to fuck dogs,
ill admit to having accouple ive chatted a ton with but never really stepped all the way up to commit, and explain why to you once again. ultimately.. just not that interested. i was with man others tho. id encourage you to go find your many others.,
its fuckin hard out there in life. to land a good job. a good place.. a good life. you think you knock it out of the park every time
?> fuck no. first time? hardly never.
twenty something years ad dozens of people later.. your one bad experience wouldnt amount to a blip on my radar. and it shouldn't or you, either.
just my personal opinion, which is frequently disagreed with on this board.. but rarely by anyone happy and successful in their own zoo plus other person relationship.
good luck. dont give up. itll all work out if you keep putting in effort, and staying safe. as safe as possible. no one gives a shit if someone finds out YOU are curious about having sex with a dog. its not that big a deal. just have a relitively low expectation for the rest of humanity and youll do fine. it comes a lot easier after your experiences accumulate and spread out to etiehr side of the good / bad bell curve.,
go find yourself a dog to fuck., dont give up. dont feel bad, dont keep tripping on why unless the same thing happens over and over again.
its fun. i highly recommend it.
tl/dr? boo hoo.
yeh should speell check and grammerly this one.. but im not gonna. cheers!
calikennelmaster
Citizen of Zooville
Its a fact. That's a little weird or decides not to meet up with you is LEA.
ALWAYS.
The regulars on here that never meet up with anyone themselves will tell you all about it.
Law enforcement is so rife and active and noteworthy functioning on the site that you will see true telltale signs and warnings posted in our forums linking real cases, news and sentancing directly to the actions on this forum.
So many postings of 'interacted with the user XXX and later wound up getting my home raided and arrested.. beware'
Or uh... Theyre all law enforcement but all of a sudden they feel bad for you with the last minute and pull out rather than charging you they don't even bother to give you a heads up or a message as a warning
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calikennelmaster
Citizen of Zooville
Fuckin aye right man. But why just leave it to dogs and being flaked!?
I've actually had personal experience setting up non dog encounters where I was flaked on by the other person.
The whole experience has led me to believe and understand it simply isn't worth it to try and meet up with people with dogs... or people at all!!
They might flake on you.. they might ruin your plans for the day..
Motherfuckers might even start moving into your brain rent-free.
Fuck frankly it's the reason why I don't even like to take a risk talking to my neighbors..
I was talking to another couple days ago in the UPS pulled up and distracted and they went over to handle that mid conversation..
I don't know what happened my life's destroyed over here I'm never going to speak to him again
Fucker just walked away to the big brown van
Left me crushed in alone
That's why I stick to dogs only. Never mind they have no free will in there essentially slaves that I own.
Have i ever told you I got it all figured out
You sure sound like you do! ?
calikennelmaster
Citizen of Zooville
Fuckin people out there always wanting to tail hole your dogs. They areTHE worst.
This is truth in posting rite here.
I KNEW THIS ONE WOULD HAVE A HAPPY ENDING
calikennelmaster
Citizen of Zooville
Not to mention theyre always trying to tailhole our dogs man...
Half
The goddamn internet it seems like
BishiBashiSpecial
Zooville Settler
I've never had that experience tbh. Most of my meets have went good.
Aussie Animal Lover
BANNED
sorry that happened to you, i think id loose my shit if that happened to me. then id just go home and be with my loyal animals that arent out to hurt people
tx_animal_lvrr
Tourist
Yeah this is just how online meet-ups go honestly. IMO if you have a bad feeling or get weird vibes from someone, you owe them nothing, it's ok to get out of the situation if need be. Maybe it's an overreaction? Sure, but it's much better to be safe about it, especially in a situation where you're meeting another zoo for the first time. I don't see anything wrong with bailing if you don't like the situation. Put you and your animal's safety first above all else.
kinkylittlecock1
Tourist
I agree. He should be called out. For what it's worth I kinda feel your pain. For 25 wonderful years I shared my wife with any man she wanted. W e started searching for GENTLEMEN almost 40 years ago when the only option was swinger mags. We have been stood up many times the same way. I think a few checked us out from afar and decided they didn't like what they saw. They just didn't have the common curiously to meet or call and tell us. Sounds like this guy maybe was playing you. Ether way you got the better deal. It's so much easier I guess to be an asshole in a text. A different world when face to face. A friend had a date. The man comes to her place. She sucks his dick and he cums. Tells her he needs to go move his truck. Gets in his truck and leaves. Asshole and Coward
kinkylittlecock1
Tourist
Don't let this one bad experience deter you from finding out for yourself what your direction will be. Be patient and above all be careful.
ashy
Citizen of Zooville
I figured it was something like this just going off his side of things.
Making things about sex is a big reason why there's no real community around zoo. It's not even the fact that every now and again the government nips our heels a bit. We do it to ourselves by letting everyone treat it like a fetish while claiming it's not. It's disingenuous, and even more so when someone plays at friendship when they're really just after sex.
You clearly made the right call. It's easy to hide true intentions over text. It's hard to do so in person, and their reaction shows they felt spited for not being able to get what they were after.
AlejandroX
BANNED
Say the username ?
nekdoneco123
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
the other party "revealed" themselves on the first page....
AlejandroX
BANNED
Who?
UR20Z
Dumpster Diver
READ AND FIND OUT! Good lord, man, do you need somebody to unscrew the top of your head and shovel the answer in for you???
AlejandroX
BANNED
I am not talking to you ?
UR20Z
Dumpster Diver
Thank god... Would be like having to listen to a non-stop moron-track!
AlejandroX
BANNED
Interesting thread. I think all these next points have basically been made but lets lay it out in a new persepctive:
1. You both were preparing for or at least considering acts that could ruin your lives if exposed. Or even get you killed. There are people out there, maybe even here, who hunt zoos -- just basic bloodthirsty thugs, but have found found a way to rationalize their own sickness to themselves. So you're both very lucky - especially given your piss-poor planning and communication - that neither of you (it would seem) were intending to do an extortion, sting, or worse.
2. I'll never meet anyone from here. I probably won't ever even send a PM. Nothing personal. But in a previous life, I met plenty of strange people in shady places to do bad shit. I never got fucked over once, and its not because I was special it was because I never gave the fucker-overers sufficient opportunity. Different situation, but same rules of engagement, and this same solid-gold advice applies: take baby steps.
If you're willing to travel hundreds of miles to get physical with each other / each others pets, then are you also willing to travel just to chat 30 minutes over coffee? With no pets present? No hanky panky? Because if not, then the only sensible thing is to tuck your dick back in your pants, walk away. If you get the coffee and nobody's freaked out then next time maybe bring the pets. If you tossed the tennis ball a few times at the park and still nobody's freaked out and nobody's pets are freaked out, maybe don't pack an overnite bag just yet but at least you've done fundamental due diligence to even begin letting this other person into your life regularly. If either party isn't willing to put in the vast amount of time, effort, expense, then they aren't prepared for the seriousness of what they're fuckin around with. That, or they're just hoping to take advantage of you at minimal cost to themselves - check around and you might find they're pulling the same act with a dozen other suckers.
3. Even with relatively bening intentions, people still like to get coy and cute, they talk out both sides of their mouth, so every time they leave something open-ended, you make them clarify. Don't worry about hurting their feelings or being accused of putting words in their mouth. "Oh you said we should do this, not me! But now that we're on the subject..." If someone says stuff like this, walk away. This isn't your regular college freshman tinder horseshit, the sort of relationships youre trying to form here. Make your intentions crystal clear. Manage their expectations - relentlessly. Make sure you're on the exact same page before agreeing to anything, no matter how low-risk.
1. You both were preparing for or at least considering acts that could ruin your lives if exposed. Or even get you killed. There are people out there, maybe even here, who hunt zoos -- just basic bloodthirsty thugs, but have found found a way to rationalize their own sickness to themselves. So you're both very lucky - especially given your piss-poor planning and communication - that neither of you (it would seem) were intending to do an extortion, sting, or worse.
2. I'll never meet anyone from here. I probably won't ever even send a PM. Nothing personal. But in a previous life, I met plenty of strange people in shady places to do bad shit. I never got fucked over once, and its not because I was special it was because I never gave the fucker-overers sufficient opportunity. Different situation, but same rules of engagement, and this same solid-gold advice applies: take baby steps.
If you're willing to travel hundreds of miles to get physical with each other / each others pets, then are you also willing to travel just to chat 30 minutes over coffee? With no pets present? No hanky panky? Because if not, then the only sensible thing is to tuck your dick back in your pants, walk away. If you get the coffee and nobody's freaked out then next time maybe bring the pets. If you tossed the tennis ball a few times at the park and still nobody's freaked out and nobody's pets are freaked out, maybe don't pack an overnite bag just yet but at least you've done fundamental due diligence to even begin letting this other person into your life regularly. If either party isn't willing to put in the vast amount of time, effort, expense, then they aren't prepared for the seriousness of what they're fuckin around with. That, or they're just hoping to take advantage of you at minimal cost to themselves - check around and you might find they're pulling the same act with a dozen other suckers.
3. Even with relatively bening intentions, people still like to get coy and cute, they talk out both sides of their mouth, so every time they leave something open-ended, you make them clarify. Don't worry about hurting their feelings or being accused of putting words in their mouth. "Oh you said we should do this, not me! But now that we're on the subject..." If someone says stuff like this, walk away. This isn't your regular college freshman tinder horseshit, the sort of relationships youre trying to form here. Make your intentions crystal clear. Manage their expectations - relentlessly. Make sure you're on the exact same page before agreeing to anything, no matter how low-risk.
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Mortimer snerd
Tourist
This is high-stakes stuff. Any whiff of a problem should send you running. I'm totally with you and your reaction.
As to the OP and other seekers, this went so much better than it could have. Get over it. Bear in mind that just about anything can happen at such a meet, and most of the possibilities are bad.
Ozguy49
Citizen of Zooville
Of the 20 or so catfishes i have wasted my precious time talking too over the years i have been lucky enough to meet 4 genuine ladies in person, 3 of them ended up having great mating sessions with my dog and were all very easy and fun to be around. The first meetings were always a bit tense for a bit but once we got past that it was great. ?
I always meet first at a park somewhere neutral and we take my dog for a walk so she can get to know him and he her. This helps because he already knows her for the second visit when the fun really begins. Never plan for anything sexual or illegal to happen on the first meet, keeps it all above board and if you get a bad vibe ditch anything else but if it all feels good then plan the second meeting/breeding session.
Thats always worked for me so far at least ?
I always meet first at a park somewhere neutral and we take my dog for a walk so she can get to know him and he her. This helps because he already knows her for the second visit when the fun really begins. Never plan for anything sexual or illegal to happen on the first meet, keeps it all above board and if you get a bad vibe ditch anything else but if it all feels good then plan the second meeting/breeding session.
Thats always worked for me so far at least ?
Ozguy49
Citizen of Zooville
Sorry that happend to you must have been a really shitty thing to go through. The odds are against us when it comes to this lifestyle as it is so taboo etc. Unfortinately that attracts a lot of untrustworthy, fake, just shitty people. Try not to let one dickhead stop you from seeking what you want so much. Instead arm yourself with the knowledge that 1 out of every 10 people you meet online is actually genuine. There are plenty of us out there but it takes patients a good nose for bullshit to find someone real ?