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Furries and zoo

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FuzzyDragon

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Does the Fandom actually have a decent amount of zoos in it? I've been in and out of enjoying the Fandom since I found secret love for pups around 2014. It seems toxic with the call out culture but at the same time I've met a decent amount of furs that don't mind zoos. Opinions?
Also first post, hoping it goes well.
 
Define decent.
It's always going to be a bit tough to adequately gave such things, you're talking about a niche within a niche! There will always be those who are desperate for legitimacy who voice noisy protest against the very idea(!) while others are all too happy to engage in feral play.
 
FuzzyDragon said:
Does the Fandom actually have a decent amount of zoos in it? I've been in and out of enjoying the Fandom since I found secret love for pups around 2014. It seems toxic with the call out culture but at the same time I've met a decent amount of furs that don't mind zoos. Opinions?
Also first post, hoping it goes well.
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There is some overlap between those two groups, but compared to the entirety of both groups it probably should be small in both regards. Some zoos are also furries, some furries are also zoos. You might be more likely to run into a zoo among furries than you are among non-furries, but that doesn't mean they're a majority. Some furries are pretty vocal against zoos or being compared with them, others are indifferent, yet others are accepting, but aren't zoos themself, then there are those who like ferals, but draw the line by it being fantasy only and then there are those, who are also zoos.

I'd say, don't expect furries to be more accepting of zoos than non-furries and don't have a coming-out around every furry you meet. Try to get to that topic slowly and see, how they react to that type of thing before having your coming out among them. If they are cool with it, you're fine. If not, you know to avoid that topic.
 
1/5 or 1/6 furries were zoo, some time ago. That number has probably dropped a little as more comic-con kids come in, but we're still at least 10% of the fandom. I've been to some furry house parties where there were five or six zoos, although we never bothered gathering on our own simply because we were zoo.

I think most furries are fine with it, even if they're a little uncomfortable. On social media sites, though, you have a lot of underage kids roaming around trying to find people to hate. I'd say be careful on any online platform.
When meeting furries locally, you can usually broach the subject without too much trouble.
 
I'm a cautious old pup. I am zoo and furry but not in that order.. my zoo is like my sexuality none of anyones dog damn business but mine and those that I interact with in the 'bedroom'. My furriness is more like my gender.. (although I think that analogy is probably a bit of a stretch.)

A little story about why I'm cautious.
I witnessed the rise of a person's popularity as a fur, then their sudden unpopularity as people became aware of their predilections became known. They then became a bit of a novelty as people friended them for sexual 'try before you buy' purposes but not because they were a great person but was the only out fur into zoo with access to a dog. It wasn't pretty, the general scene not the dog.. I also heard all the horrid things people said behind their back. Being the gutless wonder I can be, I didn't stand up for them or even advocate a fur/zoo perspective. I didn't really approve of the way the dog was being used - that was my judgement. I watched them decline into quite an unhealthy psychological state before I stopped interacting with that fur.

So that's why I'm cautious, but I'm also old, and remember the days when it was 'bad' to be gay.. Do what you feel is safe when talking to furs about your zoo feelings, and try to understand that people might not support your feelings. It''s always hard talking about a taboo subject. As it becomes 'less' taboo it gets easier.. but you still get that negative reaction. Be strong and explore your life, you will find support when you need/ask for it.
 
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ut they don’t openly admit it
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Because most aren't. A few are. It's a minority in the fandom.
Of course, personal opinion can be quite scewed when personal bias plays into it.

For example, most drawn furry genitals are human genitals, especially if the artist is afraid of being called a bestialist for drawing animal junk. Other artists are less afraid or indifferent, some simply draw both, especially in commissions, drawing whatever the commissioner wants to see.

That said, of course there are quite some zoos among furries. It's just not the majority. And given the more recent online-witchhunts, some people might feel quite uncomfortable admitting they are.
 
I'm both and have been furry for as long as I can remember. I've actually met several fellow zoos from furry telegram channels.

By far the strongest concentration of zoos is in the feral art circles (obviously), but more specifically ones who enjoy art of canine pussy. I'd say in the fortune cookie channels it's gotta be like 75% zoos at least, many of the artists are extremely accurate in their drawings of the way dog vulva moves and squishes while being fucked. Too accurate to have not viewed at least some zoo porn.

Personally I enjoy both the yiff and the actual zoo porn depending on my mood, I tend to alternate. I also really enjoy written stories quite a lot, there's many good ones out there! There's some ideas/scenarios that are just impossible in real life (like sentient, intelligent-as-humans canines) that are fun to explore!
 
nobody_knows said:
By far the strongest concentration of zoos is in the feral art circles (obviously), but more specifically ones who enjoy art of canine pussy. I'd say in the fortune cookie channels it's gotta be like 75% zoos at least, many of the artists are extremely accurate in their drawings of the way dog vulva moves and squishes while being fucked. Too accurate to have not viewed at least some zoo porn.
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That's actually what made me ponder what I asked. Also the writing of some of the artist in the art post that are basicly describing a good cookie with what seems to be possible personal experiences.
 
Personally I think furries are dog fuckers lol. The problem is that yes there are witch hunts for folks who are out there stating they're zoo then it's a quick blast. But a huge majority of the art shows sexual appetite of animal's. I believe "furries" culture is a safety net, not saying they "enjoy" animals in that way but you know they secretly do.
 
Due to social media witch hunts less and less furries will ever admit their interest in Zoo. You use to be able to be more comfortable early 2000s and 90s. But due to the influx of young furries and impressionable "faces" of the fandom its highly discouraged. Also the Kero situation dug a deeper hatred for zoo's within the fandom.

It was already getting bad but that really pushed people over the edge. He had some really scary interests involving animals so I agree with his banishment. Its just a shame that a situation like that happened at all and its dragging down more people then just those involved.
 
Furry zoo here. From my experience, most furries that I've told are either also into it or were okay with my interest but didn't want to hear much about it after the fact. But I never outright told people without sharing feral art with them first just to see how they'd react to it.

I am pretty selective with furries I interact with though, primarily due to how toxic the community is towards zoo. I would like to find more furry zoos as I don't know many personally, but it's not easy to do that when one wrong move will screw you over pretty hard. Every time I see a Twitter debate involving some SJWs talking about how animal dicks on anthros is wrong and immoral, I'm pretty sure I age by roughly 25 years and it definitely makes me just want to not even take the risk.
 
It is not at all surprising otherkin would be at that percentage and even that number is likely modest. They have a much closer relationship with the animals they are connected to and embrace the reality of having the same instincts and tendencies as a result of the closer bond.
 
Quick correction for the Otherkin mentions above:
Therians, people with animal experiences who fall under the 'otherkin' or 'alterhuman' umbrella, have a very high percentage of zoos. Like 25% identifying and another 25% who are interested in it. All the rest of the otherkin includes people like elves and fairies, who generally aren't zoo. If you find yourself in a mixed otherkin space, be careful!

It also seems like there's a difference between identity and sexuality. Furries identify with animals just a little bit, though they usually aren't interested in them sexually. A therian identifies strongly as an animal, so they're more likely to be attracted to "their" species.
 
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DogMichael said:
It also seems like there's a difference between identity and sexuality. Furries identify with animals just a little bit, so they usually aren't interested in them sexually. A therian identifies strongly as an animal, so they're more likely to be attracted to "their" species.
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...and thus why most Therians in general have no issues with zoo sexuality.
 
StoneMountainDoggy said:
I think Therians have broader understandings on animal mentalities, consent, all those sort of more complicated mental exercises. When you really take time to sit and puzzle out those details, it's easier to accept zoo sexuality.
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Based on personal experience, observations and what my own dad taught me...I think that is a reasonable assessment.
 
I'd wager all or most furries are zoos. The problem you have is that the cancel culture has become so bad and with cons and meets run by the minority who are not you either have to hide it or be forced not to attend. You don't have sex as animals, actively buy animalized porn, or use live cast animal dildos and NOT be a zoo. That's not debatable.
 
nobody_knows said:
By far the strongest concentration of zoos is in the feral art circles (obviously), but more specifically ones who enjoy art of canine pussy. I'd say in the fortune cookie channels it's gotta be like 75% zoos at least, many of the artists are extremely accurate in their drawings of the way dog vulva moves and squishes while being fucked. Too accurate to have not viewed at least some zoo porn.
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Yeeeeeaaaahh . . . about that . . . . . . I've personally supplied a few artists with reference material. And even poked at many for getting their shit wrong.
 
nobody_knows said:
By far the strongest concentration of zoos is in the feral art circles (obviously), but more specifically ones who enjoy art of canine pussy. I'd say in the fortune cookie channels it's gotta be like 75% zoos at least, many of the artists are extremely accurate in their drawings of the way dog vulva moves and squishes while being fucked. Too accurate to have not viewed at least some zoo porn.
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Oh yeah, I have noticed that as well. I was pretty popular in the "furry feral" scene, and at one time had a fairly large amount of followers on the furry sites I was apart of (funny enough I've seen my old art reposted on here a few times.) Some of the people that would follow me on these furry sites would also post furry feral dog art as well. Usually, when someone's gallery is literally 75%-100% feral dogs... you kind of just... knew.

I used to actually be really bold about 6-7 years ago and would ask many of these artists with a majority feral dog gallery if they were zoos in PM, and many people either admitted that yes, they were zoo, or that they were "zoo friendly." Accuracy in anatomy is definitely a good pointer, as it definitely does prove that they are interested in the real life stuff, or at least replicating it. But I've also met a few zoos that were not the most accurate either. But usually with them, their art was... let's just say... not of the best quality.
 
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StuffedCali said:
I'd wager all or most furries are zoos. The problem you have is that the cancel culture has become so bad and with cons and meets run by the minority who are not you either have to hide it or be forced not to attend. You don't have sex as animals, actively buy animalized porn, or use live cast animal dildos and NOT be a zoo. That's not debatable.
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Yeah I agree 100% I’m a furry and I’m a zoo, and almost every fur I know is also a zoo. It’s super common, it’s just everyone has to hide it cause of the minority of the fandom who will “expose” you for being a zoo. It’s super annoying.
 
I have been in the furry fandom for a long time. It used to be much more common to openly discuss Zoo. Heck ZetaPaws, the animal dildo company that predated Bad Dragon had mating videos and pictures (all animal on animal of course) straight on their website. Zeta even stood for Zoophiles Ethical Treatment of Animals.

But then we got a bunch of cancel culture going on about calling out people for zoo. So it became a hush hush thing, then it got even worse with all the zoosadism stuff going on making the non sadistic zoos look really bad despite doing nothing.

Why I left for awhile, but now back as well, I enjoy what I enjoy... I just have to be careful about it is all.
 
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