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The price of anonymity, sadly.
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YanchaOkami
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
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I had some reasons to test the function of cyanacrylates on wounds recently, they are the best and least risky solution for anything wounded on the bodies outer layers, interestingly enough.
Always removing shattered skin pieces beforehand, then using spirit or isopropanol alcohol to disinfect the wound as deep as possible. Then add some superglue of acceptable purity (most are nowadays as it's easy to produce clean cyanacrylate and it helps their gluing power as well) and -then- the fun begins..
.. with activator spray.
The cyanacrylate will not burn or hurt in the wound at all, as on contact with any watery liquid like blood it hardens very quickly. As such it is technically impossible to actually "flow" into the blood stream, it would harden and stick to whatever it is applied to.
But the higher areas of the "drop" don't, and here comes activator spray into game, as it is just a very quickly vaporizing liquid solvent mostly based on acetone and aggression reducing additions (which as example prevent the skin from drying out instantly).
As this activated quick-curing runs exotherm, it will hurt, because that small droplet will shortly reach 70 to 90 degree celsius. But this is not a bad concept, because it actually kills surface-near bacteria to a degree and might even stop bleeding - but is not long enough to damage deeper skin layers (actually the surface of the wound will be unimpressed by that short term heat).
As such it's a quite self-cleaning mechanism. Had the case where a well-cleaned and disinfected wound was still bearing small remainings of the mechanical contact material, which I couldn't get out due to the bleeding. Because cyanacrylate dissolves / loosens in two conditions: wet and warm quite quickly, after hours to 2-3 days - this means it's easy to remove after 1-2 days and re-apply.
And everything which is not actually a part of the flesh wound itself - which stays in the wet lipid-repairing consistence below the hardened glue layer - will get glued on it permanently on application (while the wound will not, it only sticks very slightly and loosens itself after 2-3 days completely) and get removed easily. It's really a wonderful solution.
I had some reasons to test the function of cyanacrylates on wounds recently, they are the best and least risky solution for anything wounded on the bodies outer layers, interestingly enough.
Always removing shattered skin pieces beforehand, then using spirit or isopropanol alcohol to disinfect the wound as deep as possible. Then add some superglue of acceptable purity (most are nowadays as it's easy to produce clean cyanacrylate and it helps their gluing power as well) and -then- the fun begins..
.. with activator spray.
The cyanacrylate will not burn or hurt in the wound at all, as on contact with any watery liquid like blood it hardens very quickly. As such it is technically impossible to actually "flow" into the blood stream, it would harden and stick to whatever it is applied to.
But the higher areas of the "drop" don't, and here comes activator spray into game, as it is just a very quickly vaporizing liquid solvent mostly based on acetone and aggression reducing additions (which as example prevent the skin from drying out instantly).
As this activated quick-curing runs exotherm, it will hurt, because that small droplet will shortly reach 70 to 90 degree celsius. But this is not a bad concept, because it actually kills surface-near bacteria to a degree and might even stop bleeding - but is not long enough to damage deeper skin layers (actually the surface of the wound will be unimpressed by that short term heat).
As such it's a quite self-cleaning mechanism. Had the case where a well-cleaned and disinfected wound was still bearing small remainings of the mechanical contact material, which I couldn't get out due to the bleeding. Because cyanacrylate dissolves / loosens in two conditions: wet and warm quite quickly, after hours to 2-3 days - this means it's easy to remove after 1-2 days and re-apply.
And everything which is not actually a part of the flesh wound itself - which stays in the wet lipid-repairing consistence below the hardened glue layer - will get glued on it permanently on application (while the wound will not, it only sticks very slightly and loosens itself after 2-3 days completely) and get removed easily. It's really a wonderful solution.
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YanchaOkami
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
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Very interesting addendum: the wounds will not hurt anymore, it is more like a "dried glue drop on intact skin" feeling and as such one tends to do everything with his hands or feet like before, not noticing the wound anymore after half an hour. ?
Who needs protein glues if such a great chemical exists.
Very interesting addendum: the wounds will not hurt anymore, it is more like a "dried glue drop on intact skin" feeling and as such one tends to do everything with his hands or feet like before, not noticing the wound anymore after half an hour. ?
Who needs protein glues if such a great chemical exists.
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YIMBY
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As much as I loved reading that, you should have just bandaged it like a normal person.
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Oh, for the days when phlebotomies cured everything.
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My 4th humor is a little low, tell Dracula to come over here and relieve me if some of that bad blood!
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Back again for now lol.
Back again for now lol.
YanchaOkami
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
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Guys, you irradiated the worldly layer of numbers by a whole thousand! Temporary!
Why "playing with canids"? Because sharp teeth and low knowledge of sensitivity regarding human skin or self control (remember: wolves are not dogs in that term) tend to end in what you don't assume dogs are capable of, but are just as capable of as wolves: piercing your muscles with their teeth as if they chew on butter. One serious snap and you've got two 1,5 - 2 cm deep holes, if not 4 in your extremities, bleeding like heck.
Yea, your dogs can do this as well. And my dog had an unfortunate visit from my boot without further intent of my side, she just stood in the way while I carried something heavy blocking my view, which ended in me first stepping (lightly) on her paw, then she signaled quickly and abruptly that this was not in her approval and then I fell because the dog basically tried to run through me and landed with my hand on her lower back (only lightly as well, but it must have hurt her).
Result was that she reacted by a serious bite and that went through my flesh - on both hands, due to my quick reaction stopping her from actually biting at my arm (I moved her snout away while she snapped - being a bit quicker than a canid is a good thing). And as such I had quite well bleeding wounds on both hands, which makes it quite hard to do anything without a mess.
At least that heavy stuff I was carrying didn't fall on her, so that's a good thing. ?
Cleaned it as deep as possible (to be honest: I actually applied disinfectant -through- the holes to be safe) and then glued them shut. Allowed me to play with my dog after not even five minutes and don't have to clean anything aside a few cotton clothes with noticeable amounts of blood on them. So all is good. ?
Will never use bandages again, this try-out actually proved to me that there's no better way to keep wounds closed for 2-3 days, then reinspect and re-apply if necessary. And they heal just fine in their sub-glued existence, separating the new cells automatically from the glue layer. It should as well work with bigger holes in the body, as it prevents blood loss, but might take longer (and probably antibiotics) to heal without further consequences.
Guys, you irradiated the worldly layer of numbers by a whole thousand! Temporary!
Did that with another wound which happened to appear as a result of a slight body mod (nothing unnatural, actually - piercings are a thing, you know).
I am actually doing this often enough, but from my playing with canids am somewhat more direct in my approaches regarding recovering of usability of extremities without loosing life essence (blood) in big amounts.
Why "playing with canids"? Because sharp teeth and low knowledge of sensitivity regarding human skin or self control (remember: wolves are not dogs in that term) tend to end in what you don't assume dogs are capable of, but are just as capable of as wolves: piercing your muscles with their teeth as if they chew on butter. One serious snap and you've got two 1,5 - 2 cm deep holes, if not 4 in your extremities, bleeding like heck.
Yea, your dogs can do this as well. And my dog had an unfortunate visit from my boot without further intent of my side, she just stood in the way while I carried something heavy blocking my view, which ended in me first stepping (lightly) on her paw, then she signaled quickly and abruptly that this was not in her approval and then I fell because the dog basically tried to run through me and landed with my hand on her lower back (only lightly as well, but it must have hurt her).
Result was that she reacted by a serious bite and that went through my flesh - on both hands, due to my quick reaction stopping her from actually biting at my arm (I moved her snout away while she snapped - being a bit quicker than a canid is a good thing). And as such I had quite well bleeding wounds on both hands, which makes it quite hard to do anything without a mess.
At least that heavy stuff I was carrying didn't fall on her, so that's a good thing. ?
Cleaned it as deep as possible (to be honest: I actually applied disinfectant -through- the holes to be safe) and then glued them shut. Allowed me to play with my dog after not even five minutes and don't have to clean anything aside a few cotton clothes with noticeable amounts of blood on them. So all is good. ?
Will never use bandages again, this try-out actually proved to me that there's no better way to keep wounds closed for 2-3 days, then reinspect and re-apply if necessary. And they heal just fine in their sub-glued existence, separating the new cells automatically from the glue layer. It should as well work with bigger holes in the body, as it prevents blood loss, but might take longer (and probably antibiotics) to heal without further consequences.
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YanchaOkami
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
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I won't use 2k epoxy or aggressive chemical glues for the gluing, no panic. But what doesn't travel in the body or stay liquid after contact with the wound, can hardly be more dangerous to the wound compared to a "sterile" bandage which ain't sterile anymore the second after application due to the surrounding skin (which on field accidents rarely gets wholly scrubbed by Iod and sanitizers to remove the abstrusely high amount of potential dangerous bacteria on it as example - while the glue actually encapsulates a part of those and seals the remaining from entering).
The longer that "soaking" applied bandage stays, the bigger is the collection of potential dangerous bacteria, viruses and other chemicals / byproducts / insect attracting remainings the body produces to close the wound shut itself.
As such I'll stay with gluing it shut on the surface, if this is necessary. Not necessary on smaller wounds, but I don't enjoy visiting hospitals (last visit was with an almost separated finger, really had a hard time choosing "stay for 16 hours over night for a well-made surgery result" over "just amputate the remaining flesh, shut it close and send me home").
I won't use 2k epoxy or aggressive chemical glues for the gluing, no panic.
But what doesn't travel in the body or stay liquid after contact with the wound, can hardly be more dangerous to the wound compared to a "sterile" bandage which ain't sterile anymore the second after application due to the surrounding skin (which on field accidents rarely gets wholly scrubbed by Iod and sanitizers to remove the abstrusely high amount of potential dangerous bacteria on it as example - while the glue actually encapsulates a part of those and seals the remaining from entering).The longer that "soaking" applied bandage stays, the bigger is the collection of potential dangerous bacteria, viruses and other chemicals / byproducts / insect attracting remainings the body produces to close the wound shut itself.
As such I'll stay with gluing it shut on the surface, if this is necessary. Not necessary on smaller wounds, but I don't enjoy visiting hospitals (last visit was with an almost separated finger, really had a hard time choosing "stay for 16 hours over night for a well-made surgery result" over "just amputate the remaining flesh, shut it close and send me home").
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But your hands fall off I get to say, "I told you so."
Okay then, I'm not your doctor or your pharmacist, so I can't tell you what to do.I won't use 2k epoxy or aggressive chemical glues for the gluing, no panic.
The longer that "soaking" applied bandage stays, the bigger is the collection of potential dangerous bacteria, viruses and other chemicals / byproducts / insect attracting remainings the body produces to close the wound shut itself.
As such I'll stay with gluing it shut on the surface, if this is necessary. Not necessary on smaller wounds, but I don't enjoy visiting hospitals (last visit was with an almost separated finger, really had a hard time choosing "stay for 16 hours over night for a well-made surgery result" over "just amputate the remaining flesh, shut it close and send me home").
But your hands fall off I get to say, "I told you so."
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