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Caught by Boyfriend

I mean I'm sure most of us are just trying to support a fellow zoo rather then trying to get with OP, I would hope that people on here would be acting the same if this was a guy with a violent ex. I will agree that all the guys saying how much they would like to date OP are being immature and are not reading the tone of the post very well though.
Was OP cheating? Technically yes (if you are a zoo then a dog is a person of that I think we can all agree) and that dose suck but they (as far as we know) handled it the best way possible after the fact, the ex demanded the dog be castrated (by the sound of it as revenge) and after being broken up with has turned to criminal damage and killing her plants.
Now I know killing her plants probably doesn't sound like the worst part of the crime but it dose go to show a lack of empathy for other living things and that is a sign of either a childish mindset or a damaged mind.
Dose the ex have a right to be angry? Yes they do, I would be crushed if I was cheated on in a closed relationship but the extremes they are going to are unacceptable and would just as unacceptable if they where a women.
 
Papasmerf21 said:
I'm pretty sure KendallRae doesn't see her dog as just a sex toy, she takes care of her dog and loves it immensely obviously lol
unless she got the dog for the sole purpose of using it for its penis and abuses and doesn't feed him/give him proper shelter then I guess the problem lies elsewhere right?

Well one thing wrong is society's views on people having sex with animals first and foremost!
However since she was in a relationship and was caught accidentally by her now ex-bf there's more than just the moral/ethical side to things such as the act being immoral/sacrilegious to begin with.

Now there are other things to consider, such as what constitutes as cheating in a monogamous relationship lol
Yes it's probably not good or healthy to keep secrets from or do things behind each other's back, especially when it involves your partner having or doing sexual things with their body! But it is ultimately their body and not yours!

I'm no expert or pro at relationships but I would say that while yes you are not supposed to share yourself aka have sex with someone other than your chosen mate heck even less than having sex many/most would consider out of line
but does this specific incident qualify as cheating?
Yes it was sex...and it wasn't with her bf...so its cheating right? I guess if we want to get technical about it ok sure yes

But if that's the case then, so would be playing with sex toys or masturbation right? You're having sex with yourself or a piece of silicone rubber and not your partner and without their knowledge or consent...thus cheating correct?
Or does cheating apply only when done with other humans? because it's kind of relevant here
A dog isn't an inanimate object but it's also not a human being

And Yes many people do view pets/animals as family members or at the very least more than just another piece of property they own, so it could be looked at as if you cheated on your partner with their sibling or best pal in a sense but that's also depending on the degree to which the animals status is elevated too. I also wanted to say I think there's way worse things you could walk into or be that repulsed by that you vomit at the sight of seeing!
Seeing someone enthusiastically chow down on feces might do that for me lol yuck but hey everyone is different!

Regardless Communication is key..you need to talk and be honest in relationships but with this topic it's touchy and not easy to share or open up to others about.
So your choices are either keep it a secret(which this Gal was doing apparently beforehand) or test the waters and find out what the other person thinks about animals and people having sex/making love with them! You don't have to admit to liking or partaking in it at all but you can possibly get a sense of their views on the subject if you just find a way to simply ask them about it however you choose to do that...there's plenty of those topics on this site

I don't think Kendall is wrong for wanting to feel pleasure tho! And she chose to allow the dog to bring her some which should be her choice!
Unfortunately there are laws that make it illegal! :(
but I feel what you do in your own privacy is your own business as so long as it's not harming others especially rape, murder, theft, things along those lines...assault/harm to another person or property!

I understand that most vanilla non kinky or taboo people, even some of those might still not accept the idea of people and animals shagging it up but too each their own for sure...like I said a person might eat poop and then turn around and judge you for letting a dog pleasure you lol that's just the world we live in hahaha it's a funny place

But what isnt funny is what her ex-bf did to her home and stuff and to force law enforcement to get involved
Cheating might not be cool but yes two wrongs don't make a right!
And he definitely ain't right!

He has the right to be upset, feel cheated or slighted if he wants and chooses to
But he has zero right to make threats, damage property or to cause stress and/or harm to anyone or thing
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I sure as hell don't treat my dog as a fucking sex toy! Having sex with a dog isn't cheating. Cheating would be having sex with another human. I love my dog, but I'm not going to marry him and start a family with him. If I slept with another human that would be cheating. My ex always wanted to have threesomes, but I'm not into lesbian shit. Tell me that isn't more cheating.
 
What-there-once-was said:
I mean I'm sure most of us are just trying to support a fellow zoo rather then trying to get with OP, I would hope that people on here would be acting the same if this was a guy with a violent ex. I will agree that all the guys saying how much they would like to date OP are being immature and are not reading the tone of the post very well though.
Was OP cheating? Technically yes (if you are a zoo then a dog is a person of that I think we can all agree) and that dose suck but they (as far as we know) handled it the best way possible after the fact, the ex demanded the dog be castrated (by the sound of it as revenge) and after being broken up with has turned to criminal damage and killing her plants.
Now I know killing her plants probably doesn't sound like the worst part of the crime but it dose go to show a lack of empathy for other living things and that is a sign of either a childish mindset or a damaged mind.
Dose the ex have a right to be angry? Yes they do, I would be crushed if I was cheated on in a closed relationship but the extremes they are going to are unacceptable and would just as unacceptable if they where a women.
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No, I didn't cheat. This site is toxic.
 
KendallRae said:
I sure as hell don't treat my dog as a fucking sex toy! Having sex with a dog isn't cheating. Cheating would be having sex with another human. I love my dog, but I'm not going to marry him and start a family with him. If I slept with another human that would be cheating. My ex always wanted to have threesomes, but I'm not into lesbian shit. Tell me that isn't more cheating.
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Unfortunately no matter what do you have people will always detract. Thing is, you are living your life your way. It is your life not theirs. Having been in relationships with humans while being intimate with my pets, I'm I completely agree with you on this
 
SigmatoZeta said:
@BishiBashiSpecial That is why it is valuable to take in the whole picture of what this person revealed himself to be. The initial shock reaction, even with the puking in the toilet, was one thing, and if it had only been that, I might have pointed out to the OP, "You did cheat on him in a non-open relationship, so what did you expect? A cookie? A pat on the head?" but his follow-up demonstrates that it is not safe for her to have this man in her life at all. This is not a matter of who is right or who is wrong. It is a matter of whether or not it is safe for this person to continue being in her life. Based on the evidence that he has produced by all of his follow-up behaviors, this man should not be in a relationship with anybody. He is dangerous.

The time when you criticize someone who cheated is when that person's partner dumped them, and they acted like they were victims over it.

There is also a good way to handle being the guilty party in a cheating situation. Okay, maybe it's never really NICE to do, but the follow-up that makes you sound like you are otherwise an okay person is, "I was really becoming dissatisfied with the relationship. I realize I was wrong, but I am really glad he decided to leave me. I needed to move on."

Or in the case of being a zoo, maybe add, "I never really trusted my partner well enough to talk about my sexual feelings toward dogs. There was never really all that much trust in the relationship. I feel I was never really dating him for the right reasons. I am sorry for what I did, but I am really also sorry for the entire relationship. I feel like I wasted his time and mine. I am ready to start fresh with a man that understands me and whom I know appreciates this part of me."

Maybe it's better to not resort to getting out of a relationship by cheating your way out, but you can follow it up by behaving like a mature and responsible adult about it.

But the problem is that he did MORE than just leave her. He acted out in a malevolent way, and because of this, I suspect that there were pre-existing problems with this relationship that @KendallRae is not ready to talk about with us and should not feel like she has to talk with us about. Considering how badly this guy has behaved since the incident, I feel like the cheating was just the climax to a litany of issues in a relationship that was definitely not going to work out and probably was not likely to end well.

The fact that my husband's relationship with his ex-husband ended in cheating by his ex was due to serious problems with his ex-husband's level of maturity. The problem was that his ex-husband had never really been alone in his life. He went straight from being under his mother's protective wing to being very prematurely married to my husband with almost no intervening period of playing the field or doing something fun and creative with his life or building up his career. Because of this, his ex-husband was ALWAYS going to feel like a prisoner in any relationship he was ever in. He was always going to deal with romantic partners in the same way that he dealt with the parents that used to ground him to his room, by rebelling and complaining and behaving like an ungrateful child like all children do to a certain extent.

After his ex-husband got into so much trouble that he had to change his name, I told the poor doofus, "You need to spend a while striking out on your own. Define yourself on your own terms. You have never given yourself time to finish becoming you, so you really don't bring a whole person to any relationship you ever get into. What did you expect?

My husband was at fault because he did not accept that his ex was not done growing up and never really let his ex finish growing up.

I was the one my husband's ex finally listened to! He got onto PrEP, had some very good guilt-free casual sex with lots of good-looking men that never even wanted to know his name but were good flings in the sheets and made a huge number of friends that only really cared about him as a face on their Instagrams but were at least Platonic, and he built up his sense of independence and self-confidence to such a point that, when he finally applied for his dream job, he went in standing tall and self-confident, and he landed it. He now makes more money than my husband and me put together. He also ended up with a really hot looking husband that is compatible with him. Last I checked, it's working out great.

But my husband was not blameless in their original break-up. He went into that relationship with a "savior" mindset, and because of that, the relationship was really degrading and claustrophobic for his ex-husband, who finally rebelled by cheating. His ex was wrong to cheat, but my husband was wrong to make him feel like a child who needed to ask for permission to piss.

Therefore, cheating is not nice to do, but it is usually just one sin in a long-term ongoing exchange of sins, and in most cases, it is an act of mercy if the cheating leads to the relationship coming to an end.

Neither my husband nor his ex-husband were ever really dangerous people. There is a difference between being at fault in a break-up, which both of them really were, and being a dangerous person. The two concepts are on different planets from each other.

@KendallRae's ex-boyfriend had a chance to see the cheating as a rude awakening that the relationship was dying and to peacefully leave that relationship. Unfortunately for him, his follow-up behavior revealed that it is probably his fault, to begin with, that the relationship died.

Maybe she never trusted this man enough to talk about her zooeyness because, deep down, she knew she could never trust him. Maybe she instinctively knew that he was too unhinged of a personality to ever let everything out to. Not telling him showed that she did not really trust him, and we now know that that lack of trust was justified.

The bottom-line is that this guy has exposed himself as someone who is dangerous, and it is unsafe to keep him around.
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So, you are an expert in my relationship, I see. Interesting. Maybe you can explain why 9 pizzas showed up to my house last night like a cheesy 80s movie and I had to pay for them because it's not the fault of the poor pizzaman.
 
Cats769 said:
And now the reply I actually should've started with....

I am terribly sorry for what you had to suffer and endure at the expense of another human being, especially that of a man. NO girl should EVER go through THIS!!!! In the first place he has absolutely NO right calling YOU sick for having a sexual preference no matter what THAT sexual preference entails.... Though, probably that's just the reaction of any douche walking in on something as most extraordinary AND as most beautiful as a girlfriend being bred by HER dog!!!!!!!! Anyway screw HIM!!!! Please DON'T EVER feel ashamed!!!! HE should've been totally supportive as well as sensitive to YOU enjoying being bred by your dog!!!! I repeat DON'T EVER feel ashamed by your love for your dog or ANY dogs breeding YOU it's born into us to crave, desire, want AND even be needy of having sex with dogs or any animals.... It's only instinct we act on, the love for sex with in your case, your dog.... ALL of us have it even the ones denying it, THEY are merely suppressing THEIR utmost desires, cravings, needs, wants and neediness through being brainwashed by society, authorities and even Family (sic)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But deep down if they do proper and true introspection and retrospection even THEY will admit to having felt a tinge or itch in THEIR pussies THOSE times THEY have seen a dog's red lipstick or full cock out or that time they saw ANY other animal's genitalia like a horse's cock or bull's cock or sheep ram's cock even from seeing animals having sex THEY will HAVE to admit it or even as far as seeing a horse or cow or dog's pussy!!!!!!!! Just like we get turned ON by other girls naked or seeing something sexy ON HER stirs a tingle or an itch IN OUR pussies even just a pair of sexy shapely legs or sexy hot feet and toes even just nice toenails or a sexy belly, sexy pretty fingers, fingernails or sexy skin up to the more usual suspects like HER tits, areolae, nipples, ass cheeks, even asshole AND MOST ULTIMATELY HER PUSSY!!!!!!!! Deep down we've ALL at some point or other felt a stir or tingle or itch except for the true but rare totally asexual ones among us that won't get turned on by ANY one or ANY thing.

NEVER, EVER get a dog neutered, not even a vasectomy.... Especially YOUR OWN loving pup who only enjoys giving sexual pleasure to YOU especially but would probably enjoy with ANY girl or even guy for THAT matter!!!! A dog unfortunately has NO say in ANY matter and why even a vasectomy like some guy suggested early on???? Heaven knows why anyone would even suggest THAT either as what does THAT EVER help, it's NOT like you CAN ever get pregnant from ANY animal let alone from a dog!!!!!!!!

Also utterly disgusting of HIM saying YOU should get checked for diseases!!!!!!!!

Bottom-line, dump the bastard!!!!!!!! HE doesn't deserve YOU or ANY other female human being at all ESPECIALLY NOT YOU!!!! If only he EVER realized how luckiest ANY guy is to have a girl into having animals, especially a dog, breed HER!!!!!!!!!!!! There's SO many men would give ANY thing to have a girl like THAT!!!!!!!! MY husband ALWAYS says he can't say thanks enough having had a girl who eventually deemed HIM worthy enough as a husband who is most into animals and animal sex especially with dogs but just as much with ANY other animal she CAN take!!!! SO cutest HIM ALWAYS wanting to watch ME or other girls with animals!!!!!!!! AND HE says it's an absolute honour to have THAT in HIS life AND it being shared with HIM!!!!!!!! ANY guy should be like THAT with YOU TOO
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I'm not getting my dog a vasectomy, as that is anesthesia and surgery with all the risk for no reason.
 
KendallRae said:
So, you are an expert in my relationship, I see. Interesting. Maybe you can explain why 9 pizzas showed up to my house last night like a cheesy 80s movie and I had to pay for them because it's not the fault of the poor pizzaman.
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Should have given the guy a big tip and sent them to the ex's house. I hope you have filed a police report
 
Cats769 said:
LOL whatever.... How else must I put enough emphasis on something that's written.... never mind.... some people just NEVER get it LOL
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do you really need to emphasize every other word? or DO you TALK like THAT in REAL life TOO?

KendallRae said:
Unfortunately, this site is toxic and I'm leaving after this.
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"i didn't get automatic sympathy from two or three ppl here so i'm leaving :<" yeah, i don't think we'll be missing out much....
also, you did cheat. no other way around that. just because you don't want to marry him doesn't make him not-a-sex-partner.. what even is this weird "it's not cheating if i can't marry him" logic?
 
nekdoneco123 said:
do you really need to emphasize every other word? or DO you TALK like THAT in REAL life TOO?


"i didn't get automatic sympathy from two or three ppl here so i'm leaving :<" yeah, i don't think we'll be missing out much....
also, you did cheat. no other way around that. just because you don't want to marry him doesn't make him not-a-sex-partner.. what even is this weird "it's not cheating if i can't marry him" logic?
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Not so much not getting sympathy as attacked her during a time of stress and vulnerability doing something that it seems most other Zoos do and two or three people don't.
 
aragos32727 said:
Not so much not getting sympathy as attacked her during a time of stress and vulnerability doing something that it seems most other Zoos do and two or three people don't.
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pointing out someone brought something bad on themselves (meaning the breakup, the aftermath is something i wouldn't wish upon anyone and i really do wish it ends well for her) among the sea of probably fake "zoo-wife" chaser sympathy is hardly an attack...
 
nekdoneco123 said:
pointing out someone brought something bad on themselves (meaning the breakup, the aftermath is something i wouldn't wish upon anyone and i really do wish it ends well for her) among the sea of probably fake "zoo-wife" chaser sympathy is hardly an attack...
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Like I have said countless times before on this forum. Not your life, hers. She's the one that's dealing with the consequences not you.
 
The OP, I am more of a lurker here. But you shouldn't be ashamed of the love and feelings that you feel for your dog. Each person is different, and we are brought up to believe stuff like this is wrong. And we judge everybody else to our own criteria.

I am more active within the BDSM lifestyle. And a part of lifestyle that I enjoy, is dehumanising woman and even couples into animals (where they pretend to be to be a dog, cat, cows etc). With some of them, I have taken it a stage further by making them having sex with dogs too. Of course crossing that line can be a delicate balance, knowing if they would be interested in doing it. Or knowing that they would rightly flat out refuse, calling you sick things etc.

Even within the BDSM lifestyle and when they are not human animals. But just Dom's, Masters, Mistresses, submissives/slaves etc. A lot of people don't understand the connection, the feelings etc that is involved. And do still judge you and make you feel ashamed for your actions. It is the same with Zoo, the connection, feelings etc

That is why my family and friends (outside of the lifestyle) don't know about my BDSM side or even my zoo feelings. Because I know they will judge me. Because of the way that they feel about it themselves. Or the way that you were brought up.

I would say to everybody, be true to yourself within the Zoo or even the BDSM lifestyle. And what happens in private. Shouldn't matter to anybody else. If it isn't harming you or anybody else. As long as you and the other party are happy.
 
aragos32727 said:
Like I have said countless times before on this forum. Not your life, hers. She's the one that's dealing with the consequences not you.
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everybody needs a reality check once in a while.. chances are, seeing anything other than "it'd be so hot if i walked on you" might help her eventually.. separating life into "mine" and "others" boxes doesn't seem like a nice way to cruise through it imo.

also this is a forum.. one should expect some variation in replies received.
 
nekdoneco123 said:
everybody needs a reality check once in a while.. chances are, seeing anything other than "it'd be so hot if i walked on you" might help her eventually.. separating life into "mine" and "others" boxes doesn't seem like a nice way to cruise through it imo.

also this is a forum.. one should expect some variation in replies received.
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Learning is a good thing, but more often it leads to mistakes. It is like the admonition of the priest Konan. It is worthwhile just looking at the deeds of accomplished persons for the purpose of knowing our own insufficiencies. But often this does not happen. For the most part, we admire our own opinions and become fond of arguing. To give a person an opinion one must first judge well whether that person is of the disposition to receive it or not.
Yamamoto Tsunetomo
 
Honey take it from a guy he ain't worth that. He can't accept you for who you are you don't need him find somebody who would be okay with it I get it it's not that easy or just be really careful. But I completely disagree with neutering your dog.
 
KendallRae said:
No, I didn't cheat. This site is toxic.
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Sigh, I'm not sure how you got "toxic" from my post, I even state in my post that I'm on your side and that you ex is literally a mad man.

As for me saying it was cheating, I was simply saying how I would view it, I wasn't saying you where a bad person or attacking you in any way, we just think differently on that topic and that's fine, I'm not you and it's not my relationship so I wouldn't expect you to think the same way as me about it.

I understand that you are under a lot of stress right now and I will assume that my intent in the post was lost in the transition to text, for that I am genuinely sorry and for what it's worth, even though we have had no interaction before this one, I would be sad to see you leave over a miscommunication on something I said.

Stay safe and I wish you only the best going forward.
 
What-there-once-was said:
Sigh, I'm not sure how you got "toxic" from my post, I even state in my post that I'm on your side and that you ex is literally a mad man.

As for me saying it was cheating, I was simply saying how I would view it, I wasn't saying you where a bad person or attacking you in any way, we just think differently on that topic and that's fine, I'm not you and it's not my relationship so I wouldn't expect you to think the same way as me about it.

I understand that you are under a lot of stress right now and I will assume that my intent in the post was lost in the transition to text, for that I am genuinely sorry and for what it's worth, even though we have had no interaction before this one, I would be sad to see you leave over a miscommunication on something I said.

Stay safe and I wish you only the best going forward.
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Like I tried to make another understand. When somebody is under duress do you feel that's the best time to State your point of view? And just because you see it a certain way and someone else doesn't doesn't mean that either way is wrong. If you look back to the messages though she was receiving quite a few negative comments on that same topic. Just because she doesn't see it as cheating or other people don't and other people do doesn't mean that her point of view is wrong.

As for what you just wrote, I applaud you. Took responsibility for what you wrote and understand that tone and context is lost in text. We're not perfect in any way shape or form, and we're all individuals trying to live our life
 
aragos32727 said:
Like I tried to make another understand. When somebody is under duress do you feel that's the best time to State your point of view? And just because you see it a certain way and someone else doesn't doesn't mean that either way is wrong. If you look back to the messages though she was receiving quite a few negative comments on that same topic. Just because she doesn't see it as cheating or other people don't and other people do doesn't mean that her point of view is wrong.

As for what you just wrote, I applaud you. Took responsibility for what you wrote and understand that tone and context is lost in text. We're not perfect in any way shape or form, and we're all individuals trying to live our life
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I'm getting so tired of these asshokes, but am stating because I did make a few friends.
 
nekdoneco123 said:
do you really need to emphasize every other word? or DO you TALK like THAT in REAL life TOO?


"i didn't get automatic sympathy from two or three ppl here so i'm leaving :<" yeah, i don't think we'll be missing out much....
also, you did cheat. no other way around that. just because you don't want to marry him doesn't make him not-a-sex-partner.. what even is this weird "it's not cheating if i can't marry him" logic?
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What the fuck is WRONG with you? I'm not looking for sympathy, just people to act like decent human beings, but I see that is too much to ask.
 
Cats769 said:
LOL you have your opinion, I have my opinion - hardly makes it fantasy at all.... if only I had to write about all the straightest men, I've ever met, on here who confided in me and confessed about that one time they looked at a buddy's cock or a guy's in the gym's Men's room and went like "Oh my!!!!" and/or thought of just to touch it and even got a little excited from it or from a photo of a hard guy or actually from a porno movie looking at the man and not just the girl(s) and got a lil excited from it or whatever other situations he ever found himself in reading erotica or even had a thought of touching another guy's cock without seeing it first or whatever and it had an exciting effect on him even in the slightest I'd be writing pages and pages on here. Even the countless discussions back in school and uni between guys and girls where guys didn't feel threatened or didn't have any masculinity problems and would openly talk about it.... but that's totally off point now.... So.... Anyway....

And oh my of course he had to be supportive.... She's his GRILFRIEND!!!! I guess you give people NO chances, all is just black or white. I take it YOU NEVER cross the line YOU are ALL sin free, oh my have I just met Jesus Christ on here.... or God for that matter.... At least he could've sat down and tried to understand or talk about it. Maybe she even had sex with her dog WAY before she met this guy. It's hardly like ANY girl would EVER go like "Oh wait you know what.... I actually have sex with my dog just so that you know now that you've asked me to be your girl and all.... so I guess I should probably ask you if it's okay with you or should I break up with him if you see it as cheating or just say no to being your girl?".... Oh my soul with all the threads AND comments on here already about how people have reacted negatively to their other halves coming out even almost destroying their lives for them you want THAT???? But yeah for me it is end of discussion. No good in debating or having a different opinion from something that is hardly anything else than a rock. So....

Why don't you just move on if this thread is so nauseating???? Yet you are still on here, still just trolling now. Like aragos32727 already stated "You stated your opinion and view. Which was actually very refreshing at first. People's opinion were different than yours, and now you've been doing nothing but trolling. Just stop. Unwatch this thread, block it out from your feed. Move on man. You haven't been appointed Grand Galactic balance keeper." LOL
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Unfortunately, he wasn't the type of guy that could sit and talk calmly about anything. He came out to me as bisexual. I told him that was fine and it didn't matter to me. He told me he was into voyuerism, too. I couldn't get on bored with that because watching others without them knowing is non-con. When he told me he was into exhibitionism I was fine with it, as long as the other person was consenting. Frotteurism was one of his kinks that I couldn't get on board with, as again that's non-con. I was just fine with his sexual masochism and did what I could to make him happy. I couldn't deal with his sexual sadism, as I don't like being hurt.
 
KendallRae said:
I'm getting so tired of these asshokes, but am stating because I did make a few friends.
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Just disagreeing with you doesn't make someone an "asshole" and if it does then I take pride in being an asshole. Because like it or not we are being very real with you in this and telling you where you went wrong.

Fucking someone else, canine or human in a relationship is wrong and what a way for the man to find out about it.

Accept you fucked up and move on.
 
BishiBashiSpecial said:
Just disagreeing with you doesn't make someone an "asshole" and if it does then I take pride in being an asshole. Because like it or not we are being very real with you in this and telling you where you went wrong.

Fucking someone else, canine or human in a relationship is wrong and what a way for the man to find out about it.

Accept you fucked up and move on.
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You certainly are coming off as brash (not that I blame you if you've already been burned.) But give her a break, she's got a lunatic to worry about now. (And no, this does not justify the cheating.)
 
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