Are all you folks already on the new forum (Zoocadia)?

[Reconscope]

This may be a stupid question or request but can someone please define these terms for me. I've seen some of these terms being used however im not informed on the exact definitions. I'm not exactly the most informed on the subject but I was led to believe that a zoophile or Zoo is someone attracted to animals. Romantics or sadists aren't exactly zoo specific but are the others some type of voyeur fetish? As in they don't have any feelings towards animals, they just want to watch others with them?

Zoo romantic= num num num who's my big paw you are. (Kinda like my dynamic where I had a funny pet name thing with her and went with it. You know basically Romanticism except with your animal partner.)

Zoophile= I really love how dogs communicate and be as straightforward as they can be. (a person who really loves animals in a abnormal way according to societal standards. In other words really cares what their life entrails)

Zoo sexuality zoophile= just simply the above but with benefits? It's just simply sex but with the regard knowing that you responded properly to their advances.

Fetish/kinks/bestialists are mostly about the physical and/or degrading aspects of it? But there are those who respect their companion but those are limited cases (as far as I know.)

 

[Theunis323]

There's was a zoo forum that was the same, just for people who are animal lovers, no porn, or nudity avatars allowed, but can't remember exactly the name, and many closed down too.

 

[MashaSobaka]

There's was a zoo forum that was the same, just for people who are animal lovers, no porn, or nudity avatars allowed, but can't remember exactly the name, and many closed down too.

ZWG?

Zoo Writer's Guild

Community platform by XenForo®

zoowg.org

 

[Theunis323]

ZWG?

Zoo Writer's Guild

Community platform by XenForo®

zoowg.org

I don’t think that's the one, names usually will come back to my memories, but 100% it's not that one

 

[MashaSobaka]

There's zoocommunity.org

I tried to register in the past, but I never received an activation email, even though I asked for a resend 5x.
Now I tried again with this name and it said that I am a duplicate account, this is banned. ?
It doesn't make much sense to register on such shit sites. ZWG is almost dead. People are in ZV for a reason, because it's the only thing that works.?

 

[Theunis323]

Isn't zoocommunity same as zoocadia with no explicit avatars etc?

 

[Theunis323]

That never happened to me. They did ask me to write an essay for them that they'd have to review and approve of. I didn't feel like it, and just left. I'll go back to write it some time.... when I feel like it.

Seriously, an essay? What do they think we still some Kindergarten kids?

 

[MashaSobaka]

That never happened to me. They did ask me to write an essay for them that they'd have to review and approve of. I didn't feel like it, and just left. I'll go back to write it some time.... when I feel like it.

The last comment is 2 days old. 3400 registered members. This place is as dead as ZWG, I haven't lost many opportunities with my account not working.

 

[Theunis323]

I will rather stick with ZooVille ?

 

[MashaSobaka]

essay?

Introdution. We used to expect on the hungarian forums, but then it was discontinued. A quick and short introductory (male/female, age, favorite animal, what kind of experience you have, what kind of animal you have) etc Rick Grimes questions is still expected in hungarian Telegram groups.

 

[Theunis323]

Nah, I wouldn't waste my time on such websites after all.

 

[MashaSobaka]

Letting kids on the site is one of those ideas that only make sense on paper, cuz most zoos seem to figure this out about themselves around puberty and it could be nice for them to have some sense of a community with others that think the same way... but ya... I don't think it's a good idea either, especially when adults get mixed in with them. There's no other way, they would just have to try to figure it out on their own until they're adults when it would be appropriate for them to join communities like this.

99% likely all to choose the 18+ option. And I think that's why they ask for an long introduction, because the words of a 13yo and the words of an adult are different, so they filter out the age manually. This works for a 3,000 person forum, but never for a ZV-sized one.
I think the further functioning of the forum is that the child accounts are limited in the type of thread that can be viewed.
It's... It's a very complicated, rather stupid idea.

 

[UR20Z]

Annnnnddddddd, ANOTHER go at "utopia" lifts off.. Wonder how long itll be before this one either crashes and burns, or gets overrun by the drooling retards it's trying to break away from?

 

[CollieMom]

I hope it works out for you. I'm completely turned off by like half of this forum but I find it's fairly easy to avoid the stuff I don't like.

 

[MashaSobaka]

Don't worry they will get it right this time, all the other dead bloated carcasses behind them just didn't do it the true way

On purpose to annoy everyone, that place will have a long life. ?

 

[Wolfspirit]

I checked it out.. it doesn't look that different from ZV. There's zoocommunity.org too, but haven't got around to exploring that community yet.

That site is not ideal because they allow 13+ to register. Doesn't matter if no porn is allowed there, it still looks like grooming to any Fed, which is why I stay far away from there.

 

[Wolfspirit]

you got it accurately, just people trying to mentally masturbate and turn it into tumbler esc levels of stupidity

Zoophile, some one who cares for animals on a much deeper level and considers them as more equal, bestialist in group refers to some who view them more as a means to just get off, this includes the fetish crowd

But if one wishes to be hyper anal, Technicaly one can be a zoophile with out sex, and thus it ends there if sex is involved then they'd be a zoophile / bestialist in technical terms, thuse we sort of clarified via creating zoosexual for within our community and it seems the term may be wiggling its way into the technical field too as a diagnostic distinguisher.

So basically:
Zoophile = loves animals
Zoosexual = Loves animals + sex
Bestialist = just a jerk off aid (Includes fetishists)

True, though many zoos including myself tend to use "zooromantic" for nonsexual zoophilia since the term zoophilia is so synonymous in society with sex.

 

[Wolfspirit]

Hi,

The idea is good, but I have already spotted security problems.

Please contact me privately so we can discuss it.

@FloofyNewfie is admin there and here so dm him. I'll send him a message on ZC and let him know to check his dm from you just in case he's not on here much anymore.

 

[Wolfspirit]

Let's say that I would have first asked the administrator for permission to advertise the forum, since it basically started with an invitation method. Nevermind... A significant part of the members here will consider it elitist, exclusive shit.

And yeah "ZV 2.0" and same Xenforo system but:
-no bestiality
-no fetish
-no kink
-no fucking dickpic
-no porn or very rare
-no stupid questions and answers
-no fake women account with horny mans
-no trolls, flamers
-no need "reading thread, jesus fucking christ" memes

Time will tell how strong it will be.

It ha a porn section but there's a waiting period and it will be way, way more restrictive to keep out shit where nonhuman partners are being disrespected or objectified.


As for being viewed as "elitist", anyone who views it that way is making it all about themselves and is obviously too self-centered to be a truly compassionate, unselfish zoo who understands the importance of eliminating the abuse from the zoo community and emphasizing true love for nonhuman animals, which is the definition of zoophilia. Which means they aren't zoos, they are animal-users. Bestialists, fetishists, and the like. Those and the dreaded zoosadists are going to react that way because everything is all about them. It's why they're more focused on using a being they view as lesser to get what they want rather than giving and loving. Those types are everything that's wrong with the "zoo community".

 

[MashaSobaka]

...

I do have concerns, I do not deny this, about how long Zoocadia, because many similar forums have already gone to the trash or stopped living. See ZWG or Zoocommunity.
Zoocadia is a ZV with these areas.

This is apparently quite small.
And Zoocaida DF is the ZV. ?

Since most of the members are experienced, I worry that it will run out of topics to talk about after a while. It is likely that they will need something that can sustain the topic of conversation and form a group of friends from it.
Zoocadia was already needed, the atmosphere of ZV is too strong. I like ZV, but you need a separate place (not just a separate section) where you can find peace, that would be the essence of ZC.

 

[Theunis323]

I checked out that zoocommunity forum, looks familiar something about the head topic but not sure if it's the same one I saw, been few years back but it doesn't look pleasantly like here or on ZC. Don't know anyone's perspective of zoocommunity ?‍

 

[MashaSobaka]

I checked out that zoocommunity forum, looks familiar something about the head topic but not sure if it's the same one I saw, been few years back but it doesn't look pleasantly like here or on ZC. Don't know anyone's perspective of zoocommunity ?‍

ZV and ZC use Xenforo, ZWG and Zoocommunity use myBB. This is why they look alike.

BF used phpBB if I remember correctly. We also use it on the hungarian zoo/furry forums (and e107, SMF).

 

[FloofyNewfie]

@FloofyNewfie is admin there and here so dm him. I'll send him a message on ZC and let him know to check his dm from you just in case he's not on here much anymore.

Welp, wasn't planning on posting in this thread quite yet, but yes. We spoke to WolfNyx and addressed a couple of things. Other things we were having issues even replicating. Although some of the issues mentioned are also issues on ZV.

But if anyone's curious I still do plan on being an administrator here, I don't hate ZooVille or anything like that. Zoocadia is mostly a passion project between myself, @Octavian, @FoxandtheHounds, huskbernard, @Daneζ, and @Bloodwolf. It has nothing to do with ZooVille and is it's own thing. It is on the same forum software, Xenforo, but after looking at 20 different forum softwares Xenforo fit our needs/wants the most.

Basically it's a forum that more caters to zoophiles and less to fetishists, pornhounds, and wankers, but we still want people to be themselves. We don't have a non-zoo porn section, genitals are not allowed as avatars nor profile banners, personal ads and meetup requests are not allowed to be posted on the forum, you have to actually participate on the forum to see the porn section, and we do have "The Controversial Zone" which is similar to the DF except it does have a couple additional rules besides the ones already on ZV. The DF adjacent section is also opt-in as well, and the majority of users do choose to do so. But we know not everyone wants to see that section, which is why it's opt-in, meaning, if you don't want to see it, you don't have to.

Basically, you'll mainly see less "DM me gurl, ur hawt! ???" and "19F looking for someone to give me sex with big dog, am virgin, UwU" type posts. The idea is to make it to where these types of people will not want to stick around the forum for too long. Eliminating the non-zoo and personal ad sections should also yield less catfish/fake accounts as well, since it's those are the areas that they mainly propagate on this forum, as well as the desperate wankers that fall for them.

The forum is pretty small (but quickly growing), but will always be smaller than ZooVille. There's no ifs, ands, nor buts about that. And that's fine with the staff members that run this site, everyone understands that. We wouldn't want 90% of the userbase (kinksters/fetishists/pornhounds) on Zoocadia anyways. As, many of you know, actual zoos are outnumbered 10:1 on here.

Join or don't join, it's up to you. We know that it's not going to be a zooey space for everyone and that's mainly the point. It's a space for actual zoos that want to come together in one area, a breath of fresh air from all the kinksters/pornhounds/and fetishists.

 

[Wolfspirit]

Welp, wasn't planning on posting in this thread quite yet, but yes. We spoke to WolfNyx and addressed a couple of things. Other things we were having issues even replicating. Although some of the issues mentioned are also issues on ZV.

But if anyone's curious I still do plan on being an administrator here, I don't hate ZooVille or anything like that. Zoocadia is mostly a passion project between myself, @Octavian, @FoxandtheHounds, huskbernard, @Daneζ, and @Bloodwolf. It has nothing to do with ZooVille and is it's own thing. It is on the same forum software, Xenforo, but after looking at 20 different forum softwares Xenforo fit our needs/wants the most.

Basically it's a forum that more caters to zoophiles and less to fetishists, pornhounds, and wankers, but we still want people to be themselves. We don't have a non-zoo porn section, genitals are not allowed as avatars nor profile banners, personal ads and meetup requests are not allowed to be posted on the forum, you have to actually participate on the forum to see the porn section, and we do have "The Controversial Zone" which is similar to the DF except it does have a couple additional rules besides the ones already on ZV. The DF adjacent section is also opt-in as well, and the majority of users do choose to do so. But we know not everyone wants to see that section, which is why it's opt-in, meaning, if you don't want to see it, you don't have to.

Basically, you'll mainly see less "DM me gurl, ur hawt! ???" and "19F looking for someone to give me sex with big dog, am virgin, UwU" type posts. The idea is to make it to where these types of people will not want to stick around the forum for too long. Eliminating the non-zoo and personal ad sections should also yield less catfish/fake accounts as well, since it's those are the areas that they mainly propagate on this forum, as well as the desperate wankers that fall for them.

The forum is pretty small (but quickly growing), but will always be smaller than ZooVille. There's no ifs, ands, nor buts about that. And that's fine with the staff members that run this site, everyone understands that. We wouldn't want 90% of the userbase (kinksters/fetishists/pornhounds) on Zoocadia anyways. As, many of you know, actual zoos are outnumbered 10:1 on here.

Join or don't join, it's up to you. We know that it's not going to be a zooey space for everyone and that's mainly the point. It's a space for actual zoos that want to come together in one area, a breath of fresh air from all the kinksters/pornhounds/and fetishists.

Sorry Floof didn't mean to drag you over here by your @ss prematurely ?. Glad the issues got patched up in any case ?

 

[UR20Z]

On purpose to annoy everyone, that place will have a long life. ?

Y'know what's scary? You might actually be right

(If/When you get your "Prophet" merit-badge, try to remember that they get no respect at their own hearth, and try not to take it personal )

 

[UR20Z]

Basically it's a forum that more caters to zoophiles and less to fetishists, pornhounds, and wankers, but we still want people to be themselves.

Tough go, that... Can we say "balancing on a razor's edge"?

We don't have a non-zoo porn section,

That should help cut down on the wankers and wannabes traffic.

genitals are not allowed as avatars nor profile banners,

Hallelujah! That will DEFINITELY make the place a bit classier. (And no, I'm *NOT* being even the slightest bit sarcastic)

personal ads and meetup requests are not allowed to be posted on the forum,

Not a bad idea. At least here, the majority of that crap seems to stay buried in the personals section, which I rarely even scroll down to, let alone enter.

you have to actually participate on the forum to see the porn section,

Careful, there - shades of Beastforum. Not that I particularly disagree, but done wrong (like Beastforum did) you can bet on it causing howls of outrage.

and we do have "The Controversial Zone" which is similar to the DF except it does have a couple additional rules besides the ones already on ZV. The DF adjacent section is also opt-in as well, and the majority of users do choose to do so. But we know not everyone wants to see that section, which is why it's opt-in, meaning, if you don't want to see it, you don't have to.

OK, now you're just kissing my ass to try to get me to sign up

 

[dartel]

Careful, there - shades of Beastforum. Not that I particularly disagree, but done wrong (like Beastforum did) you can bet on it causing howls of outrage.

On BF you had to share to download. ZC you have to have at least 12 posts, a 50% reaction score (so spamming "hi" to a dozen intro threads won't get you in), and your account has to be 2 days old.

The 3 combined means people joining just to look for porn won't see it and will leave of their own accord, unless they bother reading the rules they won't even know there's a porn section they're missing.

 

[UR20Z]

On BF you had to share to download. ZC you have to have at least 12 posts, a 50% reaction score (so spamming "hi" to a dozen intro threads won't get you in), and your account has to be 2 days old.

The 3 combined means people joining just to look for porn won't see it and will leave of their own accord, unless they bother reading the rules they won't even know there's a porn section they're missing.

Ah - Gotcha. Haven't gotten around to looking over there yet, so wasn't aware of the details. Sounds reasonable. Not a big deal for me either way - While I do poke my nose into the F/animal porn category here, it's not a major reason for my being here. Hell, in all honesty, it's not even a MINOR reason for me to be here. Not when I've got as much of "The Real Thing" as I could ask for wandering around available.

 

[MashaSobaka]

ZC you have to have at least 12 posts, a 50% reaction score (so spamming "hi" to a dozen intro threads won't get you in), and your account has to be 2 days old.

It is likely that these values will be increased, because after a while the hidden porn seekers start liking each other's Hi comments, in the hope that ZC contains exclusive and exotic porn, which is not on ZV.
They are wrong though. The M/F and F/M categories are still empty. And it's much more typical for zoophiles to see Solo animal sections grow in size, not M/F or F/M threads.

 

[MashaSobaka]

(If/When you get your "Prophet" merit-badge, try to remember that they get no respect at their own hearth, and try not to take it personal )

I will never get a badge. Other users already received it after 10 comments, after 40 comments they already had a reaction score of over a thousand, just because their name is what it is.
I have always been a dubious judgment at ZV and other places, I will never achieve the same results as others, no matter how much I work for it. If my name were Floofynewfie, even a smiley face comment would receive 150 likes in an hour. This is the same for all other users, based on their history. The community prefers older members and members with consistently positive reviews.
This is why such functions are switched off on our forums.

I don't kiss ass any forum, they all have their faults and advantages. I just use it, that's the job of a user. If I find it boring, I logout.
I like ZV, I like ZC, (I also like Floofy ), I will say good and bad about both forums because this is the fair and neutral one.
And of course, sometimes it's good feelings to mixing shit.