moonstruckxiii
Tourist
Same. I'm not part of the furry fandom, all my pets have been neutered--and cats, for that matter--and I treat the topic of bestiality with humor or indifference in public.
An AI that detects zoos.
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Bloit
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
What a load of crap.
Of course, if you have access to someone's complete internet activity, you can identify people.
Buying dildos, enema kits and lube, or using VPNs / TOR are absolutely ridiculous indicators. Absolutely laughable that you'd even suggest that would imply any kind of zoo connections.
AI has jack shit to do with that.
Nothing you're suggesting requires "AI". That's just basic forensics.
btwiamazoophile
Zooville Settler
He's almost got a thought, but it falls apart in the way he thinks it would work, we are definitely a long time away from having a zoo-gaydar in your pocket that will start beeping around other zoophiles. However, plenty of big companies do already have massive sets of data collected by individuals that use their platform which they are able to perform all kinds of statistics and extrapolation on, and ML can in some ways make it easier to draw insights from these data sets.
For the most part they're just using it to target content and advertisements though. It takes time and money, neither of which people want to *actually* spend, regardless of how much they think they care about animals they're potentially "saving".
btwiamazoophile
Zooville Settler
I suppose I was more referring to OP and this idea will somehow enable some average joe to put in his friends Facebook URL into some engine and be told whether or not he's a zoophile. Or whatever the real idea is that some zoophile would be able to use an AI to see if someone else is a zoophile. There are some edge cases where the regular info a person could reasonably produce could be analyzes to asses whether someone is maybe a zoophile (or minimally into the idea of sex with animals), but most people don't have what's needed - the data required to produce such a model and the data to feed it to get a meaningful answer.
A big company could totally do this. They have the massive dataset down to unique user advertising IDs that would be needed to understand the habits of not just zoophiles, but pretty much a generalized sample of everyone who uses the internet in order to have the data to say this does mean there is potential for zoophilic interest and this actually doesn't, when you look at the big data. Google may already do this. Certainly for other demographic analysis. They do insane amounts of analytics and some of the results of those analytics are really good. Some are not so much.
Some form of it is coming in the future, I believe that much. Just not in the way OP thinks. I don't know how this technology will manifest in time either. I think it's fascinating in theory what information about humanity we might be able to draw from the ability to efficiently interpret big data on such a greater scale.
Also to add, I don't really work in the AI space or anything and so the scope in which I think about it is pretty limited even though it is still something i think about with the year we've had in technology. I do think a bit about how data analysis is a retrospective task, and there was a lot of irresponsible online safety practiced in my youth. Hopefully they weren't collecting too much info back then that they still have lol.
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troublesomeraptor
Tourist
With the best of intentions, it sounds like you're looking to find other zoophiles to communicate with but don't want to navigate the tricky social landscape of doing so.
There's no shortcut to that skill. The best way to find other zoophiles is to do the social work of it yourself.
btwiamazoophile
Zooville Settler
I have bing on my phone and it regularly recommends I have a chat with bing about things I've talked about in the last day or so :^)
I even got one notification for me to talk to bing to learn to draw *feral dog* furry art which isn't really something I talk about. Pretty specific things. Data collected left and right, but mostly for advertising. Living in the future ?
TemptressEve
Tourist
Please NO! The way politics and religion are in the US and other parts of the world, they will use any tool available to hunt every single demo group they despise in an US vs Them genocidal fever.
Let other zoos BE in peace. It suck being isolated and not being able to share our joys with others, but with judgey haters everywhere it's like living in the matrix where any lowly schmuck can turn into an agent at any moment. AI is dangerous enough already, creating an algorithm that identifies zoos will just fall into the wrong hands almost as soon as you tell anyone you have it.
Please think about the bigger picture and all the actors already at play in the world.
Let other zoos BE in peace. It suck being isolated and not being able to share our joys with others, but with judgey haters everywhere it's like living in the matrix where any lowly schmuck can turn into an agent at any moment. AI is dangerous enough already, creating an algorithm that identifies zoos will just fall into the wrong hands almost as soon as you tell anyone you have it.
Please think about the bigger picture and all the actors already at play in the world.
Bloit
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
AI like this has been around for years. It's just gotten excessive media attention with ChatGPT. It's blown way out of proportion and now everyone seems to think AI is a magic solution that can do anything and everything.
It's ridiculous.
allyfitz
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
That movie scene is exactly what went through my head as soon as I read the OP.- YouTube
W YouTube możesz cieszyć się filmami i muzyką, które lubisz, przesyłać oryginalne treści i udostępniać je swoim bliskim, znajomym i całemu światu.www.youtube.com
A good way to detect is when an anti says "I'm one of you guys."
btwiamazoophile
Zooville Settler
This is true, but surely improvements in processing for larger sets of data and the mathematics supporting these model engines as well as the hardware running them is at least partially the reason why it is such a big topic now. I don't think it's really blown out of proportion at all as a consumer growing up with the fast progression of technology, it's just a lot more work than one thinks to produce and tune a model that provides consistently accurate outputs for given inputs. There are a lot of roles this technology at it's current iterarion can and will fill, and new use cases to be discovered and exploited.
It was objectively never ever this good before 2023 in such a way that the general public had access to. I have never in my life seen a search engine where I can just type in a detailed coding prompt and get an output of cleanly written immediately executable code(I'm aware of copilot but have never used it since I don't write much code in my work). Nothing too too crazy that I've seen yet, but it's certainly impressed me. Technology improves, architectures change, and suddenly we're able to do things we wouldn't have thought wed be able to do because we can process data faster than we could before.
Not to mention the amazing stuff we've seen with image generative models, very fascinating leaps in advancement recently.
I think it's kind of ridiculous that we woke up one day living in the future with star Trek phones where the whole front is just a screen that can stream 4k animal porn into your eyeballs over a wireless connection while talking to your friend halfway across the world. Technology has crept up on us pretty quick and a lot of people are just bored and waiting for the next update so they can be bored of it too. I don't really have a point, it's just wild.
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It doesn't really matter how exactly it's done though, does it? Just what it takes to succeed. Maybe it's a good idea to discuss that part.
So what exactly would a malicious actor be looking for? First and foremost, any evidence of bestiality, that would be solid proof. Recordings, possibly confessions, especially consistent and in large amounts. If those can't be acquired, next best thing is probably the porn we watch, including frequency. Then visiting forums such as this one, which can be done for discussions only but still gives a very good probability unless it's some undercover cop but that can be filtered out if the adversary is in the government or working for it. I don't see anything reliable past that. Furries might cause confusion and be swept in, although that's just a possible mistake of the adversary and I think unlikely in the end. Feral porn a bit more likely to be chosen.
Ok, so having said that, where would the data come from. Google, facebook, microsoft and other advertisers may have it available. Other than them, potentially the internet service provider and if you are really unlucky, targeted government surveillance. Last one is almost impossible to shield against but takes such resources that basically only politicians and high priority criminals need to worry about it. Mass government surveillance is going to outsource to tech giants anyway.
Given all this, I see 3 possible ways one can be deliberately (as opposed to just getting caught) found out:
-They are high profile and it comes up while directing a lot of resources to search for any dirt or intel.
-Something altercation causes a sudden drop in trust in the immediate surroundings that they have not been ready for: roommate searching their devices/sudden search warrant
-Political climate changes in such a way that it makes sense to pay for processing this large amount of data. Even if you do, what next? Being a zoophile has no legal consequences anywhere to my knowledge and bestiality usually isn't considered very serious, so it doesn't seem to make sense yet.
mxdwxnders
Zooville Settler
Steven Raccoon
Citizen of Zooville
Sometimes folks who have no life beyond staring at a screen out themselves.
Demigod
Citizen of Zooville
From what I've read on the forum that is not the case. I've read the stories of people outing themselves regardless of how they live. Some of those stories come from basement dwellers, married people or singles with an active lifestyle outside of home.
Isleofdogs
Zooville Settler
What the actual fuck?
btwiamazoophile
Zooville Settler
Isn't the future exciting :^) ?
Isleofdogs
Zooville Settler
Not in the slightest. Scary is a word id use!
Bruh wich side are you fighting for ?
btwiamazoophile
Zooville Settler
If you remove the opportunity for severe abuse of such a system, the concept itself is pretty cool in a vacuum.
It doesn't look like you spent a lot of time thinking about your idea. and sorry, just the fact that you want to write this software alone suggests that you should study a bit more. If this was too violent then please excuse me