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Why sharing is wrong and you should be ashamed

Do you share?

  • Yes

    Votes: 23 17.4%

  • No

    Votes: 54 40.9%

  • I would

    Votes: 55 41.7%
  • Total voters
    132
Also I quoted "sharing" because I don't like that term in such an instance. Saying that you "shared" immediately implies that the animal isn't capable of deciding for itself, and was forced in some way. You don't "share" sex, because that's rape. Should the situation arise they get to try someone else, and you are both comfortable with it, that is consent. That is the largest argument against us, and what the better side of the zoo community is about. I let my animals make their own decisions about what they want, and like a good partner, can speak for them if they are visibly uncomfortable.

I also see no problem in not offering for a number of reasons.
 
Mares² said:
"I was permitted by her owner to go further"
At what point did you want to know her a little better first?
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I don't think you understood me, that's okay. I wanted to get to know the animal before anything happened sexually. I spent time talking to her, feeding her and just being around and talking to her owner about her history, personality and life. This was done many times before I did anything sexual with permission given. I wouldn't have dared try it without.

I did type this before, but I guess you didn't read it or didn't choose to believe it. We're not all the greedy, selfish porn hounds you make us out to be. I attempt the extra mile and it's not so I can be lumped in with some of the sex-crazed or unfeeling on here. I'm not the villain you're looking for.
 
Mares² said:
So it's okay only if you say so. What if you are misinterpreting her willingness to have sex? We as humans can be really stupid sometimes. My point is that, in situations that are (specifically)arousing as a general rule our logic gets thrown out the door. With mares being creatures of great interest in pleasing their human, sometimes they know this will please you at the expense of their own pleasure. Eh I could be wrong, idk.
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My point was when there's a 'thee some' all the parties have to be comfortable with each other or it's likely that difficulties and 'drama' will arise. There are some individuals whose 'vibes' I'm not comfortable with that are hopefully filtered out before they ever receive an invite to visit. Without going into detail on the 'spiritual' aspects of sexual intimacy the short of it is this, when an individual is 'intimate' with another each is also 'intimate' with every other being each individual has ever been 'intimate' with.

There are non-physical 'energy/spiritual' exchanges that occur during 'intimacy'. This is one of the reasons that I prefer that anyone I might permit to spend intimate time with my beloveds be zoo exclusive. Humans carry too much emotional, mental and spiritual 'baggage' that I prefer not to have to deal with.

It's important to that the individual(s) be focused on doing what they're able to make the experience enjoyable/pleasurable to my beloveds. As you noticed and stated most often when passion (lust) enters the room, compassion and reason oftentimes goes out the window. I can attest to this from first hand experience.
 
Partly (gritting my teeth and grimacing), I could accept the concept of sharing(for those who want to do this), IF the mare HERSELF shows sexual attraction to the one with whom her owner/partner want to share. But only like that.

If the whole process is something like this: "the owner holds the mare from the front, stroking her while the "visitor" doing his dirty business or the owner gives her something tasty so that she stands still while she is... used, or she is openly raped by tying her up, etc." - then this is disgusting, low and ugly. And such soul traders are not worthy of being near mares.
Although, unfortunately, I am sure that most acts of sharing occur according to one of these scenarios or another which not include her consent.
P.S.
Eponas, I know your situation and I am sure that you do not allow "such scenarios".
 
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To the point someone else made, I think gender does make a difference, not that i am condoning anything here either, but I have never seen a intact male dog that was not happy to service any female hole that was in need, i have seen them mount hay bales, random female dogs, attempt to mount random female people, and our neighbors GSD even tried to mount one of our ponys and found out what a double blast of hooves to the midsection feels like. don't worry he survived, the pony didn't give him the onion when she kicked, just a stern send off, but he never tried that shit again after limping home with his tail tucked, he still occasionally comes into our pasture, but he steers clear of the horses now, with quite a margin...
 
1Ostwind1 said:
Unfortunately, I will not be able to support the topic of herd relations of horses (except for the information that I have gleaned from books and the Internet), but regarding the topic of what mares like and do not like, I can talk endlessly.

My beloved and I always stood at rented stables where there was no possibility of herd maintenance, and if there was, it did not suit us for obvious reasons. And now we live on my private territory where I spend a huge amount of time with my girl). I try to ensure that we are together at least 5 hours a day (direct communication), and if we take in general when she follows me around the territory, when I work on my laptop or in the garden etc., then we spend whole days together, separating only at night and not always. I can proudly say that my beloved is one of the rare monogamous horses, since she does not notice anyone except me in an intimate way. Of course, I can admit that perhaps the circumstances and living conditions that I created for her made her like this.
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Have have a question. When you have intimacy with a mare. Do you need to worry about zoo notic disease.? What are the health risks?
 
Thank you. I read about them before on the internet I just wanted to know from personal experience if you or anybody you know has got something and if you could tell me the experience. You don't have to mind you it's very personal I understand. It would really help me out I feel that's what holding me back. Thank you for your time and for responding to my comment
 
Mr.Nobody91 said:
Thank you. I read about them before on the internet I just wanted to know from personal experience if you or anybody you know has got something and if you could tell me the experience. You don't have to mind you it's very personal I understand. It would really help me out I feel that's what holding me back. Thank you for your time and for responding to my comment
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I've been active with equines for some 50 years. I've had the blessing of 'knowing' over 100 'perfect' females and never had any issue with contracting a pathogen (e.g., disease) from them. There is considerably less risk of such from a female equine that from a female human...
 
Thank you my dear friend. I admire and respect you. For sharing your personal experiences with me. And that's what I read myself that your more likey to get a std from a human female then from a horse
 
The OP is right, in some cases. A mare, or even a stallion or gelding, sometimes bonds closely with sometimes only one person. But there are plenty of other mares who are straight up sluts. Or just like people in general, at least. I've heard of a couple mares who loved the sex, but hated the person-you better rock her world and quick or she was gonna send you on your way in pain. I've had a strange mare back up, push me into the wall, line up, and ram me home, I knew another mare who absolutely didn't care what you did, she'd hardly notice you existed.... Most are some combination of some or all the above, really.
 
Mr.Nobody91 said:
Thank you. I read about them before on the internet I just wanted to know from personal experience if you or anybody you know has got something and if you could tell me the experience. You don't have to mind you it's very personal I understand. It would really help me out I feel that's what holding me back. Thank you for your time and for responding to my comment
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Since my beloved is my only partner, and I am hers, we have never had cases of venereal diseases. She had a couple of "ascending infections" after she had diarrhea due to other diseases (the simplest disease that can appear due to feces getting into the vagina) and that's all.
 
KnotSock said:
Also I quoted "sharing" because I don't like that term in such an instance. Saying that you "shared" immediately implies that the animal isn't capable of deciding for itself, and was forced in some way. You don't "share" sex, because that's rape. Should the situation arise they get to try someone else, and you are both comfortable with it, that is consent. That is the largest argument against us, and what the better side of the zoo community is about. I let my animals make their own decisions about what they want, and like a good partner, can speak for them if they are visibly uncomfortable.

I also see no problem in not offering for a number of reasons.
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I don't see how the word sharing specifically implies non consensual sex and I think you are pinning that they are not allowed to make their own decisions. This is false, and so far, not what anyone has said. Also, not what I said at all.

TorrentialDownPour said:
I don't think you understood me, that's okay. I wanted to get to know the animal before anything happened sexually. I spent time talking to her, feeding her and just being around and talking to her owner about her history, personality and life. This was done many times before I did anything sexual with permission given. I wouldn't have dared try it without.

I did type this before, but I guess you didn't read it or didn't choose to believe it. We're not all the greedy, selfish porn hounds you make us out to be. I attempt the extra mile and it's not so I can be lumped in with some of the sex-crazed or unfeeling on here. I'm not the villain you're looking for.
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No, I read it, maybe didn't fully comprehend it, or it was not typed in the order I was expecting? My apologies for offending you. Maybe I can rephrase then; With what you said I am not sure you are implying that you took the time to actually get to know her. I could be wrong, but that is what I read from this. I don't think that it is ultimately his decision whatsoever, it hers, and hers alone.

EponasDevotee said:
My point was when there's a 'thee some' all the parties have to be comfortable with each other or it's likely that difficulties and 'drama' will arise. There are some individuals whose 'vibes' I'm not comfortable with that are hopefully filtered out before they ever receive an invite to visit. Without going into detail on the 'spiritual' aspects of sexual intimacy the short of it is this, when an individual is 'intimate' with another each is also 'intimate' with every other being each individual has ever been 'intimate' with.

There are non-physical 'energy/spiritual' exchanges that occur during 'intimacy'. This is one of the reasons that I prefer that anyone I might permit to spend intimate time with my beloveds be zoo exclusive. Humans carry too much emotional, mental and spiritual 'baggage' that I prefer not to have to deal with.

It's important to that the individual(s) be focused on doing what they're able to make the experience enjoyable/pleasurable to my beloveds. As you noticed and stated most often when passion (lust) enters the room, compassion and reason oftentimes goes out the window. I can attest to this from first hand experience.
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So, in your first bit, you are arguing that You alone make the initial choice to share your horses. This is what I've been trying to get along to everyone this whole time. With every message that is written, I get more and more of a understanding on how each person thinks. You, and many others say that it is a joint choice to share one another. However, inviting someone to come meet my mares with or without actionable words of sexual contact is already stating that you have made the choice to share, before she ever did choose that. Your first time sharing a mare to someone else was a conscious choice to offer her up for pleasure of another human. Even if you really thought that it was for her pleasure.
I know plenty really care about their loved ones, as we should. But going back to what I said about humans thinking cock first, this kind of proves my point. Even though, I know that point will never be seen.

CrossedDestiny said:
To the point someone else made, I think gender does make a difference, not that i am condoning anything here either, but I have never seen a intact male dog that was not happy to service any female hole that was in need, i have seen them mount hay bales, random female dogs, attempt to mount random female people, and our neighbors GSD even tried to mount one of our ponys and found out what a double blast of hooves to the midsection feels like. don't worry he survived, the pony didn't give him the onion when she kicked, just a stern send off, but he never tried that shit again after limping home with his tail tucked, he still occasionally comes into our pasture, but he steers clear of the horses now, with quite a margin...
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Great, and no offence but this was a discussion about Equines, not Canines. Muddying the waters with Canine experiences or knowledge just breaks apart the conversation.
 
A very interesting thread. Ty yall for making me think. I've never shared any of mine, mares or my stallion. Honestly never thought about it.
 
Mares² said:
No, I read it, maybe didn't fully comprehend it, or it was not typed in the order I was expecting? My apologies for offending you. Maybe I can rephrase then; With what you said I am not sure you are implying that you took the time to actually get to know her. I could be wrong, but that is what I read from this. I don't think that it is ultimately his decision whatsoever, it hers, and hers alone.
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I'm not offended at all. I apologize if I was unclear. I did take time to know her. A long time, even. Without going into great detail here, when the time finally came; she appreciated my attentions and she gave some of the best consent a mare can give a man. I have a hunch that you have made your mind up though, and nothing will make you consider anything otherwise. That's fine, and I will leave the conversation quietly. ??
 
If some one is sincere and puts the time to learn help before hand and serious of considering it, then yes, it is better for them to have the experience and know they are actually into it and will be in it for the long haul, Vs them getting a mare and finding out it isn't all they thought it would be (Post nut clarity) providing the mare / dog/ sheep is willing Thus you can prevent disaster for an animal down the road, and I have seen that happen they finally get to live the life style for a bit, and after wards realize they weren't as interested in it as they thought they where.

This saves the person from a life sized mistake and you saved a bunch of animals from a pointless shuffle, if they just want a quickie? well those are the people I go to great lengths to never allow even on the property never mind even petting them.

Some things can only be taught by hands on experience as well, a lot of very bad mistakes can be made during a first time, most get through with no issues but others can cause mortal internal issues they'd never know possible, yes reading will fix most, but having some one with lots of experience on hand can reduce the risks to pretty well 0.

So there is very solid practical and good reasons you just need to be very selective as to not be wasting your time.
 
1Ostwind1 said:
Since my beloved is my only partner, and I am hers, we have never had cases of venereal diseases. She had a couple of "ascending infections" after she had diarrhea due to other diseases (the simplest disease that can appear due to feces getting into the vagina) and that's all.
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Thank you. Friend. For sharing your experience with me. I'm greatful to have zoos to talk to about this. I talked to my family and friends about my feelings on how I feel about beastality and zoophiles. They feel uncomfortable to talk about it. Or don't know what to say. I had these feeling when I was a adolescent around 6 and 7. Seeing horses and seeing there big butts always gave me a erection. And when I was a high school saw beastality for the first time on the internet since then I developed more feelings towards this love I'm an adult now. Never had sexual relationship with farm animals. I wouldn't mind trying it.
1Ostwind1 said:
Since my beloved is my only partner, and I am hers, we have never had cases of venereal diseases. She had a couple of "ascending infections" after she had diarrhea due to other diseases (the simplest disease that can appear due to feces getting into the vagina) and that's all.
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PonyTrot said:
The OP is right, in some cases. A mare, or even a stallion or gelding, sometimes bonds closely with sometimes only one person. But there are plenty of other mares who are straight up sluts. Or just like people in general, at least. I've heard of a couple mares who loved the sex, but hated the person-you better rock her world and quick or she was gonna send you on your way in pain. I've had a strange mare back up, push me into the wall, line up, and ram me home, I knew another mare who absolutely didn't care what you did, she'd hardly notice you existed.... Most are some combination of some or all the above, really.
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Mares like sex in general? They don't need to be in heat? I heard and I'm sure many of us heard that animals can't concent . It's refreshing to hear that some are sluts and like sex.
 
In my opinion
If had a dog still
Its there choice not yours or anyone elses

And if ya unsure what they want
Get some ovulation fluids and seman of same species
Little bit each on the tongue and temp telepathic bond

Your welcome if you didn’t know
 
Bloit said:
Telepathy?

And here I was thinking I've seen all kinds of crazy, already.
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I’ve tested it enough and it works crazy as it sounds one thing I was telling ppl in 2006 aside from human seman can live upto 14 days in mouth if don’t brush teeth and who brushes the dogs unless they know

Any way got me black mailed setup and charged and convicted of a crime I didn’t commit
Dogs breeders don’t like people maken the secrets common knowledge in Australia
Where as is common knowledge in some other country’s
 
Frosty82 said:
I’ve tested it enough and it works crazy as it sounds one thing I was telling ppl in 2006 aside from human seman can live upto 14 days in mouth if don’t brush teeth and who brushes the dogs unless they know

Any way got me black mailed setup and charged and convicted of a crime I didn’t commit
Dogs breeders don’t like people maken the secrets common knowledge in Australia
Where as is common knowledge in some other country’s
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You're a special kind of crazy...

Just because you want to believe it works, doesn't make it so.
And wtf is this about blackmail and conviction?!
 
Frosty82 said:
I’ve tested it enough and it works crazy as it sounds one thing I was telling ppl in 2006 aside from human seman can live upto 14 days in mouth if don’t brush teeth and who brushes the dogs unless they know

Any way got me black mailed setup and charged and convicted of a crime I didn’t commit
Dogs breeders don’t like people maken the secrets common knowledge in Australia
Where as is common knowledge in some other country’s
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Um... what nonsense did I just read... Smells like the Middle Ages and fortune telling on the entrails of a sparrow.?
 
Heh my x proved many of my theories from 2006

Don’t have to take my word for it
Test it yaself
Don’t recommend testing the dog being able to AI a human from having human semen in mouth…. My x did that to me
Made me cum in dogs mouth
Then went home and got preg with my seman without me
Man took me 6yrs to snap out of that trauma
 
Frosty82 said:
Don’t recommend testing the dog being able to AI a human from having human semen in mouth…. My x did that to me
Made me cum in dogs mouth
Then went home and got preg with my seman without me
Man took me 6yrs to snap out of that trauma
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Stop taking whatever you're taking and look for psychological help.
Utter and complete bullshit.
 
Well this is dead, off topic and just not worth the time anymore. Thanks everyone for your responses anyways. I find it interesting what other people's views are. And I also find it interesting, how defensive we can get when someone questions our own ideals.
 
Mares² said:
I don't see how the word sharing specifically implies non consensual sex and I think you are pinning that they are not allowed to make their own decisions. This is false, and so far, not what anyone has said. Also, not what I said at all.
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You can only share something that is yours to give, which is why you can't share an animal. You have negative connotations towards your own definition for sharing expressed in the title as well, which to me is a bit confusing, and perhaps slightly misleading.

Allowing your animal to do something it enjoys while bringing it no harm, is nothing to be ashamed of as a care taker.

Once again, I see many reasons/benefits not to offer sexual relations outside of your own, but to claim others are wrong for it is a tad ridiculous.
 
KnotSock said:
You can only share something that is yours to give, which is why you can't share an animal. You have negative connotations towards your own definition for sharing expressed in the title as well, which to me is a bit confusing, and perhaps slightly misleading.

Allowing your animal to do something it enjoys while bringing it no harm, is nothing to be ashamed of as a care taker.

Once again, I see many reasons/benefits not to offer sexual relations outside of your own, but to claim others are wrong for it is a tad ridiculous.
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I think you are taking the topic title a bit too seriously, frankly that's just ridiculous itself.

I never wrote that I agree with sharing, I just replied to what you said and as I understood it. My apologies I won't bother to reply to messages that are not fully understood by me.
 
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