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why do yall think its ok to be atracted to animals?

Personally, I don't see how a verbal "I Consent" is the only means of conveying consent. Dogs are known to mount people, regardless of if they have had sex with humans or not. So if a Dog or any animal for that matter, understands that sexual gratification and release can come from a human they have bonded with, then why is that not consent enough.
On the "Why do you think it's fine to have sex with animals?" question, I don't think anyone has the right to dictate who can love who or what. Society needs to accept that Everyone has the right and freedom to make those emotional decisions are their own. If a person on the opposite side of the planet from you, chooses to end their life today... how does that affect you? If I decide to sell my Semen to women that wants to get pregnant, how does that affect anyone not involved? Everyone in the world tries to use the excuse that they want to "Help people be Normal" or that "They care for others" when in reality people just want their Idea's, Belief's and Feeling's to be validated and accepted.
I wonder myself, why does the things I do in my life matter so much to a stranger? Do other people think they have any right to tell me how to live my life? If so, how do they know I am abiding by their laws and dictation?

I have never forced an Animal or Human to have sex with me, nor have I forced them to have sex with any other person. I have no reason to feel shame or guilt, nor will I ever let anyone to put shame on me or guilt me for loving another living breathing creature.
 
orwell the wolf said:
Hi I know it may sound like I'm being a troll, but this is a serious question. Why do you personally think its fine to have sex with animals or why animals can consent?
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I fully 100% agree with what KadeBoltz said in everyway, and he wrote it well to express meaning. Well Spoken Kade!

Orwell the Wolf, as long as you keep it civil on your end, hopefully everyone else will keep it civil as well. I respect you coming on here and finding out the answers to your questions. Exposing yourself to the community and average people in the community that you disagree with or at least hesitantly on the fence about how we view partners, lovers, relationships, and animals.
 
orwell the wolf said:
Hi I know it may sound like I'm being a troll, but this is a serious question. Why do you personally think its fine to have sex with animals or why animals can consent?
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1) It is fantastic fun for both parties
2) No unwanted pregnancies
3) Much less chance of STDs
4) Huge variety of pussies or cocks depending on your preference
5) Guaranteed discretion
6) A way to get closer to animals you love
7) Better sex, more sex
8) No petty drama or jealousy
9) No judgment or worries of cumming too soon, or too late, or not at all, or your mate not cumming
10) Available at any time and as often as you like, with no "head aches"
11) No menopause or menstrual worries
12) Oral smells better, and if you like you can wash her without insulting her
13) Animals don't just consent, they often seduce once they know the score
14) When an animal has an orgasm with us, we know it wasn't fake
15) Just honest, simple sex for the pleasure of it

So let me ask why you feel you have the right to question us with zero knowledge of the issues? And if you aren't a troll, what are you doing on a zoo site if you don't believe it is right?
 
I feel like even if people answer, the OP will just never log in again. Not that I'm saying this one will do that, but another did that a month or so ago.
Zoophilia has been a thing for centuries. People claim animals do not have a thought process and only run on instinct. If that's the case, why does my dog want to scream rape if someone else touches her on her vulva? It's not because of an injury, it's because she doesn't know them, or just not comfortable with them. I've noticed with many other dogs in the past like my first girl she'd want to stay away from other male dogs when she was in heat. A random stray dog was already wondering around the neighborhood. I never trained her to stay away from male dogs.
A second girl I had wouldn't let my friend have his first time with her the first time he met her. But after the second visit or so she was open to it.
Not trained to do that behavior. She made those decisions herself.

If I explained this okay, I'm trying to say it's mostly watching their body language, and actually paying more attention to them.

Why I find them attractive? I guess I just had a curiosity when I was younger, and eventually it led up to seeing how beautiful certain breeds were and when I had my first dog it just clicked as I woke up with her by me and gave me a kiss.
 
NewCaineFluf said:
I fully 100% agree with what KadeBoltz said in everyway, and he wrote it well to express meaning. Well Spoken Kade!

Orwell the Wolf, as long as you keep it civil on your end, hopefully everyone else will keep it civil as well. I respect you coming on here and finding out the answers to your questions. Exposing yourself to the community and average people in the community that you disagree with or at least hesitantly on the fence about how we view partners, lovers, relationships, and animals.
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Thank You NCF!
 
Well a dog is vastly intilecly inferior (and I'm not comparing this to petofela) like a child. They act off of pure instinct, and if they hump you, it doesn't mean they want you to have sex with them. It just means that they got you confused with a female dog. Also, its a CRIME there are laws in place for a reason. I'm fine with you having sex with your dog as long as its not penitrashon or some thing that coses pain
 
dogluver101 said:
I feel like even if people answer, the OP will just never log in again. Not that I'm saying this one will do that, but another did that a month or so ago.
Zoophilia has been a thing for centuries. People claim animals do not have a thought process and only run on instinct. If that's the case, why does my dog want to scream rape if someone else touches her on her vulva? It's not because of an injury, it's because she doesn't know them, or just not comfortable with them. I've noticed with many other dogs in the past like my first girl she'd want to stay away from other male dogs when she was in heat. A random stray dog was already wondering around the neighborhood. I never trained her to stay away from male dogs.
A second girl I had wouldn't let my friend have his first time with her the first time he met her. But after the second visit or so she was open to it.
Not trained to do that behavior. She made those decisions herself.

If I explained this okay, I'm trying to say it's mostly watching their body language, and actually paying more attention to them.

Why I find them attractive? I guess I just had a curiosity when I was younger, and eventually it led up to seeing how beautiful certain breeds were and when I had my first dog it just clicked as I woke up with her by me and gave me a kiss.
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i think the problem hear is that you dont understand dogs cant think like we do. there smart but there not the same level of thinking of us.
 
Old Zoo said:
1) It is fantastic fun for both parties
2) No unwanted pregnancies
3) Much less chance of STDs
4) Huge variety of pussies or cocks depending on your preference
5) Guaranteed discretion
6) A way to get closer to animals you love
7) Better sex, more sex
8) No petty drama or jealousy
9) No judgment or worries of cumming too soon, or too late, or not at all, or your mate not cumming
10) Available at any time and as often as you like, with no "head aches"
11) No menopause or menstrual worries
12) Oral smells better, and if you like you can wash her without insulting her
13) Animals don't just consent, they often seduce once they know the score
14) When an animal has an orgasm with us, we know it wasn't fake
15) Just honest, simple sex for the pleasure of it

So let me ask why you feel you have the right to question us with zero knowledge of the issues? And if you aren't a troll, what are you doing on a zoo site if you don't believe it is right?
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Well, I'm a curious person if I don't know anything I like to ask people who have experience then to read about it. Also, I'm not asking in a hostile way I'm just asking why you personally think its ok so I can put it in perspective.
 
dogluver101 said:
Never said they have the SAME thinking as us. It's reading their body language or just reading more into them in general than just the "It's just a dog" process.
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i guess that makes sense. I don't like how all of this makes sense. Am I just dumb or gullible, like me think this is ok go's against my moral compass?
im sorry to bother yall but its hard to rap my head arownd it.
 
hey im sorry i know i may have come off as condisending but thats not what i ment. i dont realy know that much about the hole sicnce behind um reading a dog. i just came hear to ask ya why you think the way you do not to reprimand you im sorry if i came off that way.
 
orwell the wolf said:
Well a dog is vastly intilecly inferior (and I'm not comparing this to petofela) like a child. They act off of pure instinct, and if they hump you, it doesn't mean they want you to have sex with them. It just means that they got you confused with a female dog. Also, its a CRIME there are laws in place for a reason. I'm fine with you having sex with your dog as long as its not penitrashon or some thing that coses pain
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I wonder if you've ever considered the legal concepts of "Malum in se" and "Malum prohibitum". Since it seems you've got some literacy problems, "Malum in se" means, roughly, "It's illegal because it's wrong" - for example, murder is illegal because murder is always wrong, while "Malum prohibitum" means "It's wrong because it was made illegal" - for instance, jaywalking is illegal not because it's "wrong", but because some politician said "Hey! We can pocket 50 bucks a shot if we make jaywalking illegal!" - not because jaywalking is inherently wrong.

Or, put another way, just because "something" is "illegal" doesn't mean that there's anything intrinsically wrong with "something".

You're starting off on mighty thin ice, both legally and logically. (And frankly, I suspect you're not going to be long a member here - for not being a troll, you're doing an excellent job of following the "troll script")
 
orwell the wolf said:
i Am I just dumb or gullible,
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Nah. Sometimes learning something off the beaten path society wants you to stay on can give some insight. They want you to believe the bible for example. How many people out there follow it to the "T" but are at the strip club wanting to take home a hooker? The bible didn't just come out of nowhere, someone had to write it. This is also where bias comes into play.
It never hurts to learn more about something.
 
UR20Z said:
I wonder if you've ever considered the legal concepts of "Malum in se" and "Malum prohibitum". Since it seems you've got some literacy problems, "Malum in se" means, roughly, "It's illegal because it's wrong" - for example, murder is illegal because murder is always wrong, while "Malum prohibitum" means "It's wrong because it was made illegal" - for instance, jaywalking is illegal not because it's "wrong", but because some politician said "Hey! We can pocket 50 bucks a shot if we make jaywalking illegal!" - not because jaywalking is inherently wrong.

Or, put another way, just because "something" is "illegal" doesn't mean that there's anything intrinsically wrong with "something".

You're starting off on mighty thin ice, both legally and logically. (And frankly, I suspect you're not going to be long a member here - for not being a troll, you're doing an excellent job of following the "troll script")
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hey fair point but bestality has ben ilegal for a long ass time like dating back to the midevil age. and also thanks for being a jack ass next time if you whant to make a good case point dont be a ass about it
 
orwell the wolf said:
like a child
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Alright, full stop. Dogs are NOT children. They are sexually mature beings that have the capability to enjoy sex.

orwell the wolf said:
Well a dog is vastly intilecly inferior
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*Intellectually. But that's besides the point. We are animals, they are animals. The main thing that separates humans from animals is the fact that we took a different evolutionary path than they did, and the main thing that separates our brain from theirs is that our prefrontal cortex happens to be way larger than there's.

As the old saying goes, it's simply judging a fish for it's intelligence by its ability to climb a tree. There are many things that dogs can do that simply blow our senses out of the water such as a dog's superior sense of smell and hearing, or a cat's vastly superior sense of proprioception.


The fact of the matter is that I have sex with animals, in my case female dogs, because they very much enjoy the experience. How? Sex triggers all of the same brain chemical responses as it does for humans, namely... Dopamine, serotonin, vasopressin, and endorphins. As long as you let the animal choose where or not it wishes to engage in sex, their brains basically set off all the "damn, this feels SOOO GOOOD" chemicals as ours. Not only that, but our sex organs are not unique to us. They are shared by the vast majority of mammals. So a female dog for example, has a clitoris, a vulva, a vagina, a cervix, a womb, and yes... even the capability to have an orgasm. Although the capability to have an orgasm is shared by pretty much all mammals whether male or female.

The main thing I care about is mutual enjoyment of both parties. And, by the way, animals can and do proposition humans for sex all the time, but most people either ignore it, or they are ignorant of the animal's body language which indicates such.
 
dogluver101 said:
Nah. Sometimes learning something off the beaten path society wants you to stay on can give some insight. They want you to believe the bible for example. How many people out there follow it to the "T" but are at the strip club wanting to take home a hooker? The bible didn't just come out of nowhere, someone had to write it. This is also where bias comes into play.
It never hurts to learn more about something.
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thank you for being nice and understaing. do you know what it dosent seam that bad like i was expecting to come hear and se some fucked up nut jobs but now i see you all prity logacal (sorry for spelling errors)
 
FloofyNewfie said:
Alright, full stop. Dogs are NOT children. They are sexually mature beings that have the capability to enjoy sex.


*Intellectually. But that's besides the point. We are animals, they are animals. The main thing that separates humans from animals is the fact that we took a different evolutionary path than they did, and the main thing that separates our brain from theirs is that our prefrontal cortex happens to be way larger than there's.

As the old saying goes, it's simply judging a fish for it's intelligence by its ability to climb a tree. There are many things that dogs can do that simply blow our senses out of the water such as a dog's superior sense of smell and hearing, or a cat's vastly superior sense of proprioception.


The fact of the matter is that I have sex with animals, in my case female dogs, because they very much enjoy the experience. How? Sex triggers all of the same brain chemical responses as it does for humans, namely... Dopamine, serotonin, vasopressin, and endorphins. As long as you let the animal choose where or not it wishes to engage in sex, their brains basically set off all the "damn, this feels SOOO GOOOD" chemicals as ours. Not only that, but our sex organs are not unique to us. They are shared by the vast majority of mammals. Do a female dog for example, has a clitoris, a vulva, a vagina, a cervix, a womb, and yes... even the capability to have an orgasm. Although the capability to have an orgasm is shared by pretty much all mammals whether male or female.

The main thing I care about is mutual enjoyment of both parties. And, by the way, animals can and do proposition humans for sex all the time, but most people either ignore it, or they are ignorant of the animal's body language which indicates such.
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makes sence
 
Like on a moral level? You could make the argument that the idea of consent is blurry when it’s a man and a female animal, however this is the case in all animal mating, so I suppose you’d have to say humans are the only species capable of not raping, which is silly, however when it’s a male animal mounting a male or female human, I’d say there is literally nothing wrong with that morally.
 
so why are some of yall chill with pepole that dont know all the zoo shuff asking qweschons. like idk just a lot of you were realy pashent with explaing it to me. (sorry for spelling)
 
OffgridK9lover said:
Learn ye history, it is actually the major underpinning of a lot of the sexual crimes that been created, there was some due to the spread of disease too, because back then they had no idea of parasites, soap and so on.

I grossly simplified it granted, but it IS a major part of it non the less.
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ya i only realy khow 1800's and onword history good. but also why dose every one hate zoo's so much?
 
OffgridK9lover said:
All so back then people lived to 30, ripe old age, and most had children at the age of 10, and 20 was considered a dam good age for a pesant!
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Actually that's not true. The reason the average life expectancy was so low was due to the high rates of infant deaths due to a lack of modern medicine and proper hygiene. That brought the (average) life expectancy number down to around 30. Really, if you could get past the age of 15, most people lived to be around 55-65 years old even back then, and hitting 70 wasn't all that uncommon either.
 
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