The Zeta Chronicles - A pro-active comic for the zoo community
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Gunslinger1X
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
The irony is, they want to assert "human characteristics" like consent to justify their actions to the normies, but can't seem to realize that same mindset is what normies will use when prosecuting them, comparing animals to children mentally.
Bloodwolf
Dumpster Diver
That’s what I mean. A lot of people don’t seem capable of separating our mind set and think like a normal person.
Gunslinger1X
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
Been telling folks in this community that was a big part of the problem for a very long time now
Reconscope
Prized Citizen of ZV
Don't worry freedom is just on the other side. Keep our spirits high and it will be overcome ?
Taopony
Citizen of Zooville
This whole thing will fail anyway, so who cares? It's just another futile attempt to seek "acceptance" which will be forgotten in a year or so.
Drakkonas
Tourist
We need as many outlets as we can so people can see we are not monsters and truly do love our companions. Now saying that, I hope this comic does show that well.
UR20Z
Dumpster Diver
That assumes as best case that it doesn't blow up into a witch hunt and end up making things even worse - the way this sort of idiocy has done multiple times already...
nekdoneco123
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
pretty much this.
gotta mention donation money likely going into this on the "why care" list as well.
Taopony
Citizen of Zooville
I regret donating already
Bloodwolf
Dumpster Diver
That’s why I don’t. I seen and smelled the BS before the other twat took the money and ran.
Reconscope
Prized Citizen of ZV
If I was rich I would give a respectable amount and see where it goes. Zoo equality would be the top priority
YanchaOkami
Citizen of Zooville
Regarding page 8: I expect both visible participants as well as all living beings in the park to be leashed after reading that inscription. ?
UR20Z
Dumpster Diver
WTF is a "non-persona civil union"?Regarding page 8: I expect both visible participants as well as all living beings in the park to be leashed after reading that inscription. ?
It was a twist on the legal term of persona non grata. Since there would be some form of limited legal recognition of non-persona, or non person to person relationships in existence. Hence a new legal term would be required to explain it.
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I liked that little detail and @YanchaOkami why the main characters wouldnt be leashed. XD
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UR20Z
Dumpster Diver
It was a twist on the legal term of persona non grata. Since there would be some form of limited legal recognition of non-persona, or non person to person relationships in existence. Hence a new legal term would be required to explain it.
Persona non grata definition and meaning | Collins English Dictionary
Persona non grata definition: If someone becomes or is declared persona non grata , they become unwelcome or... | Meaning, pronunciation, translations and examples
I liked that little detail and @YanchaOkami why the main characters wouldnt be leashed. XD
Doesn't work.
"Persona non grata", from your own cite, means a person who is/has become unwelcome - mechanism irrelevant. Note that the person is still a person - he's just not wanted around.
Put another way, the PERSON'S welcome becomes nonexistent. he/she/it doesn't become a "non-person", he becomes an UNWELCOME person. There isn't even an indication that the person ceases to be a person - Only that he's become someone you don't want around.
Words mean things, despite your wishes otherwise. Sorry, but in the context you're trying to use it, "non-persona" is as meaningless as if you'd used "glasprindilax" or "sarglimalorp" instead.
YanchaOkami
Citizen of Zooville
It is interesting because the protagonists and most characters out there in the comic are no humans and most humans deem the term "person" only in relation of humans (or representatives of humans, as example with specific traits - nowadays not that regularly anymore, which is a good thing). It doesn't revolve about being welcome, the simple definition of "person" is enough to leave a funny twist in it.
Either those characters see them self as "persons" but resemble animals - then it's hard to argue why their animal partners are "less persons" and have to wear a leash.. Or they see them self as animals / fursonas / whatever, then it layers their own existence distanced to the usual "person" and it's interesting why they don't have to wear a leash them self.
At the end it's all coming to a simple conclusion: Those who can declare the rules will exclude or include as they wish, independently of a given biological aspect or specific resembling.
Either those characters see them self as "persons" but resemble animals - then it's hard to argue why their animal partners are "less persons" and have to wear a leash.. Or they see them self as animals / fursonas / whatever, then it layers their own existence distanced to the usual "person" and it's interesting why they don't have to wear a leash them self.
At the end it's all coming to a simple conclusion: Those who can declare the rules will exclude or include as they wish, independently of a given biological aspect or specific resembling.
YanchaOkami
Citizen of Zooville
Hmm, I don't get what a persona non grata would have to do with it, tho.
Except if it is linked to ignoring and breaking the given rule / law in a metaphorical sense: No matter what the protagonists or their animal partners would choose, if they don't leash one participant (aside the new non-person category, just plainly related to the rules given there and their animal-like occurrence), they would exclude this one from being welcome at the park and as such a persona or non-persona non grata, whatever it is at the end (animal, human, furry fursona..).
So as to fulfill it in the common sense of "leash your pets" it is necessary to declare a new form of "person" which basically includes fursonas and so on while excluding the "pets".
Or to define the "pet" aspect: one way would be - if it can't understand simple scientific or argumentative arguing based on abstract logic not linked to the thinking animal itself (direct classical conditioning shouldn't play a role here) - then it wouldn't resemble a person.
The "non-person" is one of multiple possibilities to declare it, but somewhat contrary to what many zoophiles would want: granting their animals a set of basic person (in this case human) rights which surpass animal rights. Be it for protection or for a certified relationship status like marriages.
Anyway, off to bed, four days of harshly timed events follow.
Exactly, and i think it was a brilliant point that mark wrote that little bit of world building into it.
UR20Z
Dumpster Diver
Go fuck yourself, jackass.
Knottedfortune
Tourist
Im glad i watch this thread, i am a fan of chaotic retardation arguing with full strength aspergers over weather or not something is autistic
Taopony
Citizen of Zooville
As an expert in autism, I think this comic is pretty high up there.
l33t3r0p3n3r
Lurker
After reading the first page of comments, yall can be harsh as hell. It's just a comic. They could have just taken the money and ran. The bar is pretty fucking low guys. Sure have some good expectations from the community but don't expect some kind of magical piece of art that's going to encompass every single person's experience on here. Especially for the future.
I haven't been here nearly as long as the obvi- super posters, but it seems like things get way too deep out of nowhere. OP just wanted to share a piece of art and I'm seeing people debating the existance of god like chill the fuck out boyos. hehe 0w0
I haven't been here nearly as long as the obvi- super posters, but it seems like things get way too deep out of nowhere. OP just wanted to share a piece of art and I'm seeing people debating the existance of god like chill the fuck out boyos. hehe 0w0
UR20Z
Dumpster Diver
No, the OP didn't "just want to share a piece of art". This is a deliberate attempt at dragging the so-called "zoo community" out into the spotlight in an effort to "gain zoo rights". Despite the fact that there are those of us who have been around and around and around this block many times in the last 30 years, and seen the same result *EVERY SINGLE TIME* telling the damned fool that the only result possible is more hatred toward zoos, more, and more draconian, laws against animal sex, more outrage at the idea that "those filthy animal fuckers" are allowed to exist, more people jailed and their critters sexually mutilated and/or killed or left abandoned 'cause the arrested person was their only caretaker, and the list goes on.
This comic isn't "just a comic", or art being displayed - it's a calculated "let's try to sneak in the back door and convince the normies who, if left to go about their business without rubbing their faces in our existence, wouldn't even think about us at all, to get behind Zoo rights".
What it ACTUALLY is, is turning out to be a pathetic furry comic that's so cringeworthy I can't even express it.
As for your "chill the fuck out", no, dude, I for one won't "chill the fuck out". After watching shit along these lines happen for 30+ years in failed attempt after failed attempt after failed attempt to "get zoo rights", I can, without fear of being contradicted by anybody but the pollyannas who exist under the fallacious idea that "Everything works out for the best if you just keep plugging away at it", say that this is a STUPID action, that can accomplish NOTHING good, and will only serve to draw attention to our existence, which will in turn result in even more persecution of zoos and their critters. As such, I'll be damned if I'm gonna be doing any "chilling" - I'm gonna call it out for the absolute stupidity it is, and I'm going to keep doing so until the message gets pounded through. I've watched too many of these self-appointed "Zoo superheroes" who are going to "rescue us" (thanks, but I don't recall asking for rescue) from (uh... tell me again what you're rescuing me from?) do nothing but make the situation worse every time they've tried this crap over the past 30-odd years.
How do you avoid getting busted as an animal fucker? Simple: Keep your head down, your eyes and ears open, and let John Q. Public forget we exist, which is what he wants to do in the first place. Put this shit out there and rub his face in the fact we exist, and the only result that will (the only result that CAN) come of it is more and worse persecution (and/or prosecution) of zoos, and more and worse harm to their critters.
So some of you be fucking your "work" huh?
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So how does it read when your employer or coworkers find out you "have links to a pro bestiality comic book"?
What does it matter that the sex isn't depicted in the comic?
If it was a SFW pro-necrophilia comic...
"But they didn't show the corpse-fucking in the comic!"
Reconscope
Prized Citizen of ZV
What? Are you jealous? Or misplacing your frustrations?
No frustration. I think this is hillarious