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That girl at the gym

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I will repeat, I wasn’t looking to have a sexually charged conversation from the start. We did speak today (as respectable and reasonable humans can). I’ll put a follow up post and can hopefully put this to rest. Again, thanks for your feedback!

Glad to hear it. I hope you make a gym friend.
 
Also the fact you need to describe her appearance is very fucking telling.

Feminist rant over ?

Fuck it I need like 20 cigs and I don’t even smoke ?
Please don’t cave into “big tobacco” and risk cancer on my behalf, I’m just a person asking a question. And to defend my “telling” behavior, I can appreciate a feminist’s opinion on not to “objectify“ a woman, however, I am just a man, I’m far from perfect, pretty sure no one here is??‍♂️
 
Okay so a follow up and we can put the last nail in the coffin of this one.
Our trainers did put us together again, after a severe ass kicking, SHE was the one who initiated a conversation with “I think they are trying to kill us”. Being a smart ass I replied “are you talking to me? and got back, “you’re the only other person in the room”
Long story short, we finished off with cardio and small talk.
She has an “arrangement” with an married older guy, she’s a dancer at a gentleman‘s club, most of the local guys know her occupation hence the attitude, she doesn’t date anyone during the summer since it’s her time. I’m free to ask her out for coffee after Labor Day lol.
So yeah, I’ll probably end up as her “big brother“ at the gym, and in the “friend zone“ never to ask her about the tattoos, don‘t fret, I wasn‘t a creep. If anything juicy ever happens maybe I’ll come back and tell you about it, but my first thread is probably my last!
 
Please don’t cave into “big tobacco” and risk cancer on my behalf, I’m just a person asking a question. And to defend my “telling” behavior, I can appreciate a feminist’s opinion on not to “objectify“ a woman, however, I am just a man, I’m far from perfect, pretty sure no one here is??‍♂️
The feminist rant is a running joke, not serious lol

Also freedom of choice to whoever wants to smoke. I love the smell of them. Smoked once hated it, never again. Cancer is nasty so don’t recommend it.

And how dare you accuse me of not being perfect I’m literally a perfect near godly being.

I appreciate the update on the situation though :gsd_happysmile:
 
Okay so a follow up and we can put the last nail in the coffin of this one.
Our trainers did put us together again, after a severe ass kicking, SHE was the one who initiated a conversation with “I think they are trying to kill us”. Being a smart ass I replied “are you talking to me? and got back, “you’re the only other person in the room”
Long story short, we finished off with cardio and small talk.
She has an “arrangement” with an married older guy, she’s a dancer at a gentleman‘s club, most of the local guys know her occupation hence the attitude, she doesn’t date anyone during the summer since it’s her time. I’m free to ask her out for coffee after Labor Day lol.
So yeah, I’ll probably end up as her “big brother“ at the gym, and in the “friend zone“ never to ask her about the tattoos, don‘t fret, I wasn‘t a creep. If anything juicy ever happens maybe I’ll come back and tell you about it, but my first thread is probably my last!
Please don’t let it be your last! Didn’t mean to putt you off the site :(
 
Please don’t let it be your last! Didn’t mean to putt you off the site :(
We’ll see, I know opinions differ, I wasn’t a fan of the fighting and being called things I am not. So fucked how we’re all here with the same common core interests and I’m a creep and a weirdo for seeking advice. Again, I think she’s stunning, now that I know her a smidge better, I’m still comfortable with how I expressed it. One of the other posters said it well with “some people need inner reflection”. Again, thanks for taking the time to read and even change your tone on the situation. I’m out, back out onto the page to chat up what’s probably a dude with stollen Insta pictures????
 
The feminist rant is a running joke, not serious lol

Also freedom of choice to whoever wants to smoke. I love the smell of them. Smoked once hated it, never again. Cancer is nasty so don’t recommend it.

And how dare you accuse me of not being perfect I’m literally a perfect near godly being.

I appreciate the update on the situation though :gsd_happysmile:
LMFAO, just saw this!
Pop passed of cancer after 9-11 exposure, I understand your negative review first hand.
And I’m pretty sure St. Peter or whoever you choose to worship is going to judge all of us before we see “perfect” just doing our best until then right?
 
Okay so a follow up and we can put the last nail in the coffin of this one.
Our trainers did put us together again, after a severe ass kicking, SHE was the one who initiated a conversation with “I think they are trying to kill us”. Being a smart ass I replied “are you talking to me? and got back, “you’re the only other person in the room”
Long story short, we finished off with cardio and small talk.
She has an “arrangement” with an married older guy, she’s a dancer at a gentleman‘s club, most of the local guys know her occupation hence the attitude, she doesn’t date anyone during the summer since it’s her time. I’m free to ask her out for coffee after Labor Day lol.
So yeah, I’ll probably end up as her “big brother“ at the gym, and in the “friend zone“ never to ask her about the tattoos, don‘t fret, I wasn‘t a creep. If anything juicy ever happens maybe I’ll come back and tell you about it, but my first thread is probably my last!
Ask her about the tattoos over a date. Say your ex had the same tattoos
 
Okay so a follow up and we can put the last nail in the coffin of this one.
Our trainers did put us together again, after a severe ass kicking, SHE was the one who initiated a conversation with “I think they are trying to kill us”. Being a smart ass I replied “are you talking to me? and got back, “you’re the only other person in the room”
Long story short, we finished off with cardio and small talk.
She has an “arrangement” with an married older guy, she’s a dancer at a gentleman‘s club, most of the local guys know her occupation hence the attitude, she doesn’t date anyone during the summer since it’s her time. I’m free to ask her out for coffee after Labor Day lol.
So yeah, I’ll probably end up as her “big brother“ at the gym, and in the “friend zone“ never to ask her about the tattoos, don‘t fret, I wasn‘t a creep. If anything juicy ever happens maybe I’ll come back and tell you about it, but my first thread is probably my last!
This made me laugh. Not because it's funny, but because I'd lay hard cash *most* who read your initial description and just jumped immediately to "she doesn't want to speak to men" or some shit. And, the exact opposite is the case, but, surprise, she has valid reasons for playing cold fish with everyone at the gym, or probably anywhere else.

Instead of being butthurt about the reasons why they make this assumption, which is the way women are treated in society, everyone gets mad at you because they assume immediately that you're a part of that problem. It's fucking SAD that she has to have fences like those up at all, but, that's the world we live in, like it or not. I conceed that you *might* be one of the many assholes out there and thus a part of the problem, but until I see the evidence of that, you get the benefit of the doubt. And, well, so far, so good on that concept.

Honestly, compared to some of the shit I've seen posted here, by people I STRONGLY suspect are incels, that NO ONE took any issue with, none of your original post made me question you're integrity at all. Like I said, you could be an asshole somewhere in this, but I honestly doubt it, based on the way you handled the assault on your character and the responses you made to that.

I'm glad to hear you made a bit of progress and am not surprised that it wasn't a trainwreck. It's early, but it appears to have went just fine. What more can a guy hope for, right? I wish you luck and I hope it works out in your favor.

On a side note..................in regards to @temporaryacc, you and I have crossed swords a few times. I do believe we have a few fundemental differences of opinion, and I think that's perfectly normal and natural.

Each time, once we've each had a few more posts to elaborate our points of view, we walk away if not in agreement, at least in nuetral mode. So, I'm taking this opportunity to call you out here publicly for being reasonable and rational on the internet. Something that seems to get harder and harder to do on a daily basis. I'm a firm believer in giving credit where credit is due. And, you deserve the credit for that. You have my thanks for that.
 
This made me laugh. Not because it's funny, but because I'd lay hard cash *most* who read your initial description and just jumped immediately to "she doesn't want to speak to men" or some shit. And, the exact opposite is the case, but, surprise, she has valid reasons for playing cold fish with everyone at the gym, or probably anywhere else.

Instead of being butthurt about the reasons why they make this assumption, which is the way women are treated in society, everyone gets mad at you because they assume immediately that you're a part of that problem. It's fucking SAD that she has to have fences like those up at all, but, that's the world we live in, like it or not. I conceed that you *might* be one of the many assholes out there and thus a part of the problem, but until I see the evidence of that, you get the benefit of the doubt. And, well, so far, so good on that concept.

Honestly, compared to some of the shit I've seen posted here, by people I STRONGLY suspect are incels, that NO ONE took any issue with, none of your original post made me question you're integrity at all. Like I said, you could be an asshole somewhere in this, but I honestly doubt it, based on the way you handled the assault on your character and the responses you made to that.

I'm glad to hear you made a bit of progress and am not surprised that it wasn't a trainwreck. It's early, but it appears to have went just fine. What more can a guy hope for, right? I wish you luck and I hope it works out in your favor.

On a side note..................in regards to @temporaryacc, you and I have crossed swords a few times. I do believe we have a few fundemental differences of opinion, and I think that's perfectly normal and natural.

Each time, once we've each had a few more posts to elaborate our points of view, we walk away if not in agreement, at least in nuetral mode. So, I'm taking this opportunity to call you out here publicly for being reasonable and rational on the internet. Something that seems to get harder and harder to do on a daily basis. I'm a firm believer in giving credit where credit is due. And, you deserve the credit for that. You have my thanks for that.
Thank you dogdaddy69. I always appreciate your input on discussions as well!
 
Op I also want to apologize for jumping to conclusions. Don’t let my aggressiveness deter you from posting on the forum. I just tend to be a bit hot headed and bad at explaining stuff!
 
Okay so a follow up and we can put the last nail in the coffin of this one.
Our trainers did put us together again, after a severe ass kicking, SHE was the one who initiated a conversation with “I think they are trying to kill us”. Being a smart ass I replied “are you talking to me? and got back, “you’re the only other person in the room”
Long story short, we finished off with cardio and small talk.
She has an “arrangement” with an married older guy, she’s a dancer at a gentleman‘s club, most of the local guys know her occupation hence the attitude, she doesn’t date anyone during the summer since it’s her time. I’m free to ask her out for coffee after Labor Day lol.
So yeah, I’ll probably end up as her “big brother“ at the gym, and in the “friend zone“ never to ask her about the tattoos, don‘t fret, I wasn‘t a creep. If anything juicy ever happens maybe I’ll come back and tell you about it, but my first thread is probably my last!
If she’s “involved” with someone married, that’s a good sign to stay away in my eyes. Anything to do with cheating usually ends poorly. Sounds like she may be into an open relationship if your into that kind of thing tho.
 
yes, ask her about her tats. like right away! it will totally lead to "oh, it's because i fuck dogs. wanna see?"

lol....
I wouldn’t advise being so direct, but it could happen. I was chatting with a local girl, and if she was the woman of interest, she would be down. Just because you think all men are pigs doesn’t mean there aren’t similar women out there.
 
I'm not encouraging him to harass the woman and I'm definitely not advocating leading with "Hey, do you like fucking dogs?" I'm saying to be smart about it. If he can strike up a conversation organically, taking her non-verbal cues into account, then why shouldn't he approach her?
Agreed. Normal organic conversations are the way to go in making any new connection - romantic or platonic. Sure, she isn’t there to get hit on, so don’t do that. Say hi a few times, be polite and respectful without going any deeper. Let her get comfortable around you seeing you not act like a creep and having positive interactions with other people in the gym. See if there is something workout related you can connect over first - spotting, jogging - wherever you can help set a pace and be a positive impact on her workout and environment. Once you clear those bars, chatting about other non-gym topics should be an option if you haven’t been a creep…

There is some middle ground and nuance here many people seem to be missing about how real human interactions work…
 
If she’s “involved” with someone married, that’s a good sign to stay away in my eyes. Anything to do with cheating usually ends poorly. Sounds like she may be into an open relationship if your into that kind of thing tho.
Agree 110%, will see what the next training session brings, as one of the other posters said I at least have the HAWT gym girl as an acquaintance now!
 
Do not approach, even if you some how found out that she is a zoo. She's sending CLEAR "fuck off" vibes to the meatheads like you, and that should be respected. If this woman just wants to lift and get on with her day, she shouldn't have to field questions about her sex life from strangers.
 
Do not approach, even if you some how found out that she is a zoo. She's sending CLEAR "fuck off" vibes to the meatheads like you, and that should be respected. If this woman just wants to lift and get on with her day, she shouldn't have to field questions about her sex life from strangers.
lol...actually try reading the thread?
 
one thing i know about working out in the gym is that im there to work not get hit on
Well, she initiated conversation during a training session not long after the original post. As discussed with other members, I think a lot of people added their own context. And to be honest this gym as adding a “social” room for members to actually be able to have a conversation and not tie up workout equipment. Seems there is a demand for it here??‍♂️
 
Do not approach, even if you some how found out that she is a zoo. She's sending CLEAR "fuck off" vibes to the meatheads like you, and that should be respected. If this woman just wants to lift and get on with her day, she shouldn't have to field questions about her sex life from strangers.
Well if you knew me you’d know I’m the farthest thing from a meathead, but hey, guess that’s how the world rolls these days. Since you didn’t read the entire thread, SHE initiated conversation, the only thing we discussed about her personal life was her “arrangement“ with an older married man, outside of that it’s been pretty chill conversation, trust me, I’m not going to blurt out “do you fuck your dog?” like rain man or something. Thanks for the feedback and an extra special thanks for the character assault, sorry my original post came across overly excited hoping lightning would strike twice in my life……….
 
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