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Struggling with being a zoo and a furry.

You’d find that the majority of who claim to be anti-zoo furs are actually some of the most hardcore, often not in a good way. A lot of times it’s misdirection and/or playing the good guy image.
100% this

Those that are the hardest opposed are usually trying to manipulate and misdirect people. Usually this is a huge red flag: "Hey don't look over here, look over there."

Whenever a structure like that is uttered, I usually know that person is deep in the lore of whatever they are 'opposing'
Usually they are in denial of it as well, which leads to more toxic behaviour do to them continuously having to cover it up, and rather than them accepting themselves, they end up hating themselves which causes damage to both themselves and other bystanders.

This was me but a few months ago.
 
Yeh look I've been a furry and a zoo since the pre2000's the anti-zoo "movement" has taken off in the last like 5 years like wild fire... Now you have to hide under different usernames and id's just incase some witch hunt kid becomes an admin in a group your in and it gets leaked.
 
I don't make a secret about being zoo In the furry fandom, but I also do not force it down everyones throat without consent.

If some one asks, he gets a honest answer, and if he does not like that answer, well he should not have asked.

Never had any trouble besides one or two people turning there back an me when they found out. But who cares.
 
Growing up in a family that has been in the Furry fandom and many other fandoms we have learned to embrace the differences of others so that we may learn to understand them as individuals. We pass no judgement as that is not for us to do and intelligent sentients seek no harm unto others. Instead accept and embrace their uniqueness in all aspects Mind, Body, Soul All of them. The fandoms Celebrate the same unity as theater guilds and entertainers do. We provide you with a suit and a means to develop yourself into a perfect reflection of what makes you the best in or out of suit. Experience is that being accepted in the furry community and having many look unto me as the one fellow fur they can "be their self" meaning that if they talk about zoosexual or their fetishes in RP or other forms of private communication it stays there because of cause no harm unto others is a bilateral commitment regarding both Sentient species whether human or not.

 

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Just a small rant here about the furry community and how it relates to zoophiles, I honestly hate the whole “witch-hunt” of zoophiles in the furry community. I have talked to lots of furs about this and most actually support zoophiles but are just too scared to say anything and just kinda go with the whole “yeah let’s kick out all the zoophiles” thing. I really wish these people who support us actually spoke out and made the furry community a more accepting space of zoophiles and not a group who supposedly “wants nothing to do with them” even though the majority of furs support them. Anyone else feel this way or had any personal experiences with this? Just felt like I had to get this complaint out there.
problem i find though is that furrys are accpating but each individuale is only accapting of certain peeps ect

my advice my freind is suppourt zoos but do so privatly as the old saying goes "what people dont know wont hurt them"

besdies online people cant be reasoned with less they have a gun to there head i find
 
problem i find though is that furrys are accpating but each individuale is only accapting of certain peeps ect

my advice my freind is suppourt zoos but do so privatly as the old saying goes "what people dont know wont hurt them"

besdies online people cant be reasoned with less they have a gun to there head i find
We are many diverse individuals who come together as furries and create magic each meet and conventions. We reach into everything entertainment and culture wise and embrace each other as part of life’s rich diversity. It’s counter to expression of one’s true self and identity. Furry has never been about being a hive mind. We’ve always been weird. We need to truly re-embrace our far-reaching diversity coexsistance and acceptance is what all need and deserve.
 
We are many diverse individuals who come together as furries and create magic each meet and conventions. We reach into everything entertainment and culture wise and embrace each other as part of life’s rich diversity. It’s counter to expression of one’s true self and identity. Furry has never been about being a hive mind. We’ve always been weird. We need to truly re-embrace our far-reaching diversity coexsistance and acceptance is what all need and deserve.
Agreed its a hopefull idea

But as iv found theres always a dark underbelly example be the nazi furrs starting to creep in and taking advantage of the furries mind set of "we are all brothers and sisters"

Simaler thing with pedo hiding among our ranks thanks to suits ect

Still i do hope there is a day where furries qnd zoos can bee seen in a better light uwu
 
Agreed its a hopefull idea

But as iv found theres always a dark underbelly example be the nazi furrs starting to creep in and taking advantage of the furries mind set of "we are all brothers and sisters"

Simaler thing with pedo hiding among our ranks thanks to suits ect

Still i do hope there is a day where furries qnd zoos can bee seen in a better light uwu
It’s counter to expression of one’s true self and identity. Furry has never been about being a hive mind. We’ve always been weird. We need to truly re-embrace our far-reaching diversity. Return to tolerance coexsist and grow in unity
 
You may be an adult, but if you are also a dolt, you may want to try being a real grown up instead. It takes effort to become emotionally and psychologically mature. Be a philosopher, a scientist and emotionally literate. Learn to take care of children and the young as a priority. Part of the wisdom of the elder is to protect the younger generation. Do that and you are the right mature greymuzzel Fury understand they are all ZETA
 
You’d find that the majority of who claim to be anti-zoo furs are actually some of the most hardcore, often not in a good way. A lot of times it’s misdirection and/or playing the good guy image.
We generally don't deal with Antis in the fandoms, we isolate them and they quickly burn out and leave the fandom on their own Just like we have done at Anthrocon. We had one self-destruct now is on banned anti.
 
i think we can learn from fringe political groups in this regard. you know, crypto-fascism, crypto-communism, etc... the kind of ideology that usually gets dismissed out of hand, but can still push the narrative in one way or another by masquerading as something else.

although i'd like to make the fandom a place where people can be openly zoo, that's more of a long-term goal. at the moment, respectable, mainstream furries more or less feel like it's okay to hunt us down and dox us, and to shame people for enjoying feral art. but most of these people are secretly self-conscious about their own taboo fantasies, so explore that angle: why is all the rape and murder porn okay? what are you hiding? and why does it matter if the cartoon dogs we jack off to have four legs instead of two? even though feral art is basically just zoophilia, i'd like to push the notion that it's totally different, so that people let their guard down and look at it without shame or remorse, because it's one step closer to real zoo content.

furthermore, if you know anyone who might be convinced to support us, then you can carefully start to breach the subject. particularly if they already like feral porn. i start testing the water by making jokes. if they react negatively, you can reason that it was just a stupid joke and diffuse the situation. when i finally feel comfortable to make my pro-zoo arguments, i pick my examples carefully. for example, a dog mounting a human — because it's very hard to argue that the human is coercing the dog in this case. or a man and a mare, because a horse can really mess you up if she feels endangered. but before you argue about this at all, you have to have a good pretense for doing so, so that you they don't think you're just arguing about it because you want to fuck animals. i usually reason that it's a waste of the court's time, or that we shouldn't infantilize animals and accepting their sexual desires is a major part of that.
your wrong
 
It took me less much time to accept being a furry lover than a zoo. I agree with those saying it's a part of denial and a lot of fear. As it's Taboo my mind refuses to accept such a thing until recently.

The problem is that everyone deserves respect and shouldn't be hunt...
 
It took me less much time to accept being a furry lover than a zoo. I agree with those saying it's a part of denial and a lot of fear. As it's Taboo my mind refuses to accept such a thing until recently.

The problem is that everyone deserves respect and shouldn't be hunt...
Yes that is true but the furzoo community has been very helpful
 
I think it's easier not to be out in the furry community.

I have a guy that I commission to draw porn of feral mares. He swears up and down that he'd never look at real mares and it's only hot if they can talk etc, etc. I strongly suspect he's looking at irl mare stuff but there's no way I'm going to tip my hand first.
 
As hard as it sounds, you have to seperate your zoophilic side from the Furries. Of course there is enough Zoo- friendly furry art, but many of the artists and members still oppose to Zoophiles.
Just live your life, get off on the art, and for gods sake, don’t spread that you are a zoo randomly around the community. Read the poeple you get in touch, carefully. Only this way you’ll get into the scene without incriminating yourself.
My last tip: Don’t approach Furries as you would known Zoophiles. Ask furries, when you had longer conversations, if they had ever THOUGHT about animal porn. Wait out the reactions. Depending on the reactions you should touch further or even completely abolish zoophilia for your own sake.
Forcing zoophilia on people who don’t condone it will only harm us, and it won’t get better when people mindlessly start to infuse their thoughts into other peoples minds.
 
In the furry fandom art and life à great distance, some of the artists having no problem to draw feral with anthro. They have a great fan community but don't let anyone know you are a Zoo. I think it is a greatest secret in the Fandom who is a zoo and who not.
 
Just a small rant here about the furry community and how it relates to zoophiles, I honestly hate the whole “witch-hunt” of zoophiles in the furry community. I have talked to lots of furs about this and most actually support zoophiles but are just too scared to say anything and just kinda go with the whole “yeah let’s kick out all the zoophiles” thing. I really wish these people who support us actually spoke out and made the furry community a more accepting space of zoophiles and not a group who supposedly “wants nothing to do with them” even though the majority of furs support them. Anyone else feel this way or had any personal experiences with this? Just felt like I had to get this complaint out there.
Oh it’s definitely a whole community thing. It is interesting how furries are all about acceptance yet they shun zoos.
 
This radicalization is part of why I don't really interact with the furry community at large anymore, its really just become a cesspit of narcissists and unfriendly weirdos in my former experiences with the community here. There are lots of individual furries that are rad as hell, but I usually find them through my other interests.
 
Its weird because general society hates on furries the same way furries hate on zoos you'd think the furries would learn and not be like everyone else but alas that just how things are
 
A lot of the furry community is way too highschool-y, and it doesn't help that most of them aren't far past being in highschool (if at all)
 
Yeah, the cliques that tend to form and the groupthink about stuff gets a bit annoying. I'm also a fur and a zoo, I know plenty of people who are fine with it, but the outspoken few are the difficult ones.
 
Just a small rant here about the furry community and how it relates to zoophiles, I honestly hate the whole “witch-hunt” of zoophiles in the furry community. I have talked to lots of furs about this and most actually support zoophiles but are just too scared to say anything and just kinda go with the whole “yeah let’s kick out all the zoophiles” thing. I really wish these people who support us actually spoke out and made the furry community a more accepting space of zoophiles and not a group who supposedly “wants nothing to do with them” even though the majority of furs support them. Anyone else feel this way or had any personal experiences with this? Just felt like I had to get this complaint out there.
i fall under the " im a furry an support zoos" as long as no animals are legit hurt, been looking for someone around my area thats zoo too to do stuff with but im not in the situation to be able to own anypets atm, wanting a gsd or a husky or two, the amount of hate an shit this community gets i dont like seeing especially when its all my friends an people im around, "there all fucked in the head" like i know im not fucked in the head with all ive done good so no one here is either
 
The problem with speaking up these days is that it puts you on the radar for targeted harassment. It would be one thing if it were just nasty emails and prank calls but these days people will try to destroy lives or worse by mass contacting employers, families, carrying out swatting, etc..

In the last decade Furry has pretty much gone mainstream along with the rest of nerd culture. Which, for better or for worse, means it is now filled with the kind of people who have mainstream attitudes towards things like zoo.
 
The problem with speaking up these days is that it puts you on the radar for targeted harassment. It would be one thing if it were just nasty emails and prank calls but these days people will try to destroy lives or worse by mass contacting employers, families, carrying out swatting, etc..

In the last decade Furry has pretty much gone mainstream along with the rest of nerd culture. Which, for better or for worse, means it is now filled with the kind of people who have mainstream attitudes towards things like zoo.
Very much agreed. So many fucking "Karens" in the Fandom it's unreal. You can have a group of 50 people and one Karen will get them all rowled up and ready for a witch hunt.
I can't stand people like that. Just so the Karen doesn't come after you next you gotta agree absolute 100% with them.
 
Just a small rant here about the furry community and how it relates to zoophiles, I honestly hate the whole “witch-hunt” of zoophiles in the furry community. I have talked to lots of furs about this and most actually support zoophiles but are just too scared to say anything and just kinda go with the whole “yeah let’s kick out all the zoophiles” thing. I really wish these people who support us actually spoke out and made the furry community a more accepting space of zoophiles and not a group who supposedly “wants nothing to do with them” even though the majority of furs support them. Anyone else feel this way or had any personal experiences with this? Just felt like I had to get this complaint out there.
What I've done is just make a zoo sona that isn't connected at all with me in rl or my sona within the community. That way I can enjoy and if anyone tries to cancel me it's just a alt and not me
 
What I've done is just make a zoo sona that isn't connected at all with me in rl or my sona within the community. That way I can enjoy and if anyone tries to cancel me it's just a alt and not me
Generally because of being in the fandom since 1975 and a fellow zoo it has never been any different your family and those whom say well x needs to be out of the fandom. No you need to be out of the fandom we don't need extremist and intolerant people in any fandom.
 
Still i do hope there is a day where furries qnd zoos can bee seen in a better light uwu
Let me know when we completely ban commercial zoo rape videos, jail all the actual sexual predators against animals(the ones who stick hamsters up their asses and fuck small animals that do not have a hole big enough for a human cock), and get a fuckton of independent studies proving that yes, humans can in fact have healthy sexual relationships with certain animals. And yes, I say "certain animals". If you're fucking chickens you're a sociopath. I had an ex who fucked a chicken when he was a teen, he killed it. Didn't really phase him, he kinda chuckled when he told me. Not all animals are capable of taking a human dick.

Get every last one of those people out of our community and wipe the internet clean of animal rape videos. Then, and only maybe then, will we ever get even the slightest amount of acceptance in the world.

It's not unreasonable for people to be wary of us. Most commercial animal porn is rape. Many people out there rape animals. I don't generally associate with the zoophile community because it seems to be even worse at cleaning itself up than the furry community, and that's sad.

furry is an immature zoo - that is how you should handle them
*cough*

I absolutely loathe this mindset. Being a furry and being a zoophile are two entirely separate things and entirely separate thought processes. This is something the zoo community can't seem to grasp. And also why I don't hesitate to call out how fucked up plenty of zoophiles are.

I am both, and they mean very different things to me, they serve very different purposes, and everything about my mentality regarding them is entirely different. The only similarity is that I can get hard from either.

Personally, I'd prefer if my partner is at least 95% as intelligent as me and can have a conversation with me afterward. The idea that all furries secretly want to fuck animals is idiotic. Most furries want to fuck sentient beings.
 
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