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i do not wish to offend anyone with this post. do any of you feel... ashamed of who you are?

Zen said:
I posted this on the first page, but since there has been a lot of new posts, I will reiterate it for folks:


To shed the shame that is heaped upon you by a sick, dying, outdated cutural system is a step-by-step process that doesn't happen overnight.
It does all begin with accepting ONE tiny, yet important fact: There is NOTHING wrong with you.
You are very much entitled to feel what you feel.
Second step is to accept this is YOUR life and YOUR journey. No one, absolutely NO ONE has the right to tell you how to walk your journey.
Third is the largest step, but the most productive one: unlearning all the garbage that society has told you is true.

I will also add that it is best to tell NO ONE. I only told my partner after we were married 21 years. Luckily it went well.
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Thank you for that. It does help. I guess I should clarify. I don't feel ashamed because of what I like. I feel ashamed because it distracts me from living my life the way I probably should. I feel like I'm chasing something that probably isn't ever going to come to fruition and that in that process, I'm missing all the good things in front of me.

I broke things off with a girl I loved in part because I wanted to find someone that was into beast. And although I still want that, I probably need to come to terms and accept that it's never going to happen. But if I do that, I can't just shake this. I can't move past it. So I'm committing to hiding it. It just feels bad all around.
 
Zen said:
There is NOTHING wrong with you.
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but there is something wrong with "us" zoos.
i think it's also the main reason ppl feel shame and other various negative things about it.... not because society shuns you or that they think you're a monster, that comes later. the worst is when the realization of you not being really "normal" hits you.

i was maybe 16 or something when i fully realized my orientation is "not normal" and it sparked various emotions (well, and depressions), not really negative ones like shame or "dirty" or whatever.... just this "fuck, am i not normal?!"

i've learned to live with myself since then, tho the depression shows it's ugly head once in a while, but "the realization" was one of the worst feelings i had in my life, overshadowed only by the moment my love died....
 
Goozeflzh said:
I am a 23 y/o transguy who have always been into girls.
I also happen to have a rather low sex drive, and I am very content with being single and I do not crave for any sort of intimacy. Especially not emotionally.
But at the same time, I have also always been into male dogs. Which is weird because I'm not into human males at all really. At least I don't think so. I consider myself straight. Seriously. I am so confused by this.

I do not live by myself at the moment, and I have only been with a dog yeaaaars ago, but ever since then I have had, uh, a craving. But I hate it. It makes me feel ashamed. I don't understand why. Is it the taboo of it all? What else could it be? I want to keep it behind closed doors, but internally acting out on it would make me feel so ashamed, even though I really want to act on it someday.

Does anyone else feel the same?
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Don't worry man I'm around the same age and a straight guy as well. 4 or 5 years ago I was with a male dog and I have been hooked on them since I have no interests in humans males but definitely prefer male dogs. I think that this relatively common in the community.
 
When I was younger I thought I was the only one who felt sexually attracted to certain animals. I grew up in a very sheltered and Christian home so it wasn't until I was in my late teens when I first discovered online porn. I found a site called zootube365 and found that I wasn't the only person who liked animals. After learning there was others who shared my own desires I felt a huge weight of shame dissappear and I am no longer ashamed. When I found beastforum and began talking with like minded individuals my whole world was changed .
 
I am lucky to start very early in life so it was a basic part of history before it was compared to others.

As I deal a lot in horse training I see the Equine and Human worlds have a strong desire to conform. As I sometimes need to use an angle grinder on a horses hoof to solve a problem. I tell all the humans to pretend that nothing strange is happening. The horse gets a surprise with the noise or the feel but as no one nearby is worried they tend to accept the strange situation. This strong need to conform to the perceived standard of behaviour is what makes us worried about being outed from the norm. A friend of mine who has a pretty high IQ but no common sense asked a question of a group of his close friends if anyone would have sex with a bitch for a million dollars. No one answered to the positive or negative as that was a question you just don't answer. If you answer yes to a million how little money would you take. If a million was not enough would you do it for 2. His brother was going through seminary school around that time so maybe it was a moral question. I know he showers with his dog but she is rodent sized so not a sexual connection there. At that time I had not had sex with a dog only horses. Another friend that was there had moved into his parents garage as a granny flat with his female rotty. So out of 8 people there was 2 most likely zoo's my brother may have done it as he breeds GSD's the friend who asked the question probably would. The others just ducked the question. No one freaked out at the question it was just quickly swept under the carpet. 50% may have been Zoo and the others may have been OK with that but no one wanted to answer the question.

I played with my dogs pussy from a young age and she liked it. As I went through my school years I read about mating behaviour of animals to understand what females did when they wanted sex and what the males would do to excite them. I instinctually knew that no one talked about animals sex organs. I read the various dictionaries for words like Penis, Vuvla and Bestiality.

As I went on to high school I got more detailed information on courtship and receptivity descriptions.

I worked out that I was not going to be the only one that loved animals, and that there must be many others out there interested in animals for sex.

So I never felt ashamed as I never felt alone but I knew not to mention it to the world as it was some big secret that people did but never mentioned. So I conformed at that level, IE don't mention it.

I then found A.S.B. and the lintillas and the forest chat rooms. This was the first time I met others that loved animals.
 
afab non binary here !

so like...yes and no. sometimes i think about the fact that i’ve done anything like this and i’m like what the fuck is wrong with me. but then i remember oh yeah it felt good and there was definitely enthusiastic consent from both parties so who cares? but i’m like that with most of my kinks. luckily i have two very supportive partners and some friends who know.
 
Zen said:
To shed the shame that is heaped upon you by a sick, dying, outdated cutural system is a step-by-step process that doesn't happen overnight.
It does all begin with accepting ONE tiny, yet important fact: There is NOTHING wrong with you.
You are very much entitled to feel what you feel.
Second step is to accept this is YOUR life and YOUR journey. No one, absolutely NO ONE has the right to tell you how to walk your journey.
Third is the largest step, but the most productive one: unlearning all the garbage that society has told you is true.
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A great answer...there are open minded sex therapists out there and the best place to one is to consult gay organisations and not your local GP doctor.
 
Zen said:
To shed the shame that is heaped upon you by a sick, dying, outdated cutural system is a step-by-step process that doesn't happen overnight.
It does all begin with accepting ONE tiny, yet important fact: There is NOTHING wrong with you.
You are very much entitled to feel what you feel.
Second step is to accept this is YOUR life and YOUR journey. No one, absolutely NO ONE has the right to tell you how to walk your journey.
Third is the largest step, but the most productive one: unlearning all the garbage that society has told you is true.
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Eloquent and awesome way to put it! Love it!
 
No, I have never felt ashamed of who or what I am. I have never felt guilty for what I am either. To me, that would be like being ashamed of the colour of my hair, or of the food I eat.
I accepted what I am early on. I accepted being lesbian even earlier. I am very happy to be who I am and what I am.
 
Hi, i knew this topic existed here, i wanted to talk on tumblr at first about this but their "anon" flag doesnt seem very anon to me, anyways,

I grew up as a normal kid, no depraved childhood or anything, i have very catholic parents, they do not know i am attracted to girls more than boys, and they for sure dont know i love our dog more than usual people love their dogs.

Two of my friends know my preference for girls, nobody knows for the dog.

Sometimes i feel ashamed for not being more "normal".
Chitchat about my sexlife with my friends without having to lie.
Or even not having to lie to my parents in the first place.

Dont get me wrong i love my life, just wish this could all be easier.
 
Slickpumpkin said:
Hi, i knew this topic existed here, i wanted to talk on tumblr at first about this but their "anon" flag doesnt seem very anon to me, anyways,

I grew up as a normal kid, no depraved childhood or anything, i have very catholic parents, they do not know i am attracted to girls more than boys, and they for sure dont know i love our dog more than usual people love their dogs.

Two of my friends know my preference for girls, nobody knows for the dog.

Sometimes i feel ashamed for not being more "normal".
Chitchat about my sexlife with my friends without having to lie.
Or even not having to lie to my parents in the first place.

Dont get me wrong i love my life, just wish this could all be easier.
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You're a very strong person.
One of the most freeing things as many of us found will be when you're ready, to live your life and not someone else's expectation :)
 
No - it just seemed so natural for me. Word got out and people tried to guilt me but I never gave it a second thought since many of them were hypocrites regarding their own sexuality.
 
Slickpumpkin said:
Hi, i knew this topic existed here, i wanted to talk on tumblr at first about this but their "anon" flag doesnt seem very anon to me, anyways,

I grew up as a normal kid, no depraved childhood or anything, i have very catholic parents, they do not know i am attracted to girls more than boys, and they for sure dont know i love our dog more than usual people love their dogs.

Two of my friends know my preference for girls, nobody knows for the dog.

Sometimes i feel ashamed for not being more "normal".
Chitchat about my sexlife with my friends without having to lie.
Or even not having to lie to my parents in the first place.

Dont get me wrong i love my life, just wish this could all be easier.
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It is very risky to tell your friends about wanting dog sex as it is very taboo and most people do not understand how zoo people feel
Feeling attracted to your same sex is now considered normal..even the Pope Francis does not condemn it unlike other popes...so its best that you seek advice from Gay/Lesbian advisers and eventually you will have to tell your parents...........but NOT about the dog loving!
 
Oh no for sure i will keep the zoo side to myself, ive read enough here to know im far safer this way.

There has to be a parallel timeline where zoos are accepted, thats good to think about.
 
Zen said:
Before I got married, my wife said to me, "If you've had sex with an animal, it's off!", so I kept it a secret for 21 years. Then one night she was demanding "the truth" about how much sex I've had. After 21 years, you don't give a feck anymore, so I started listing.... and I realized I was a total dog-slut having slept with more dogs than humans :ROFLMAO:
Her response?
"Let's get a dog! :love: "
Sometimes it just goes right later on (y)
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I wish I could tell my wife. Early in our marriage she caught me letting our dog lick me. I was in the dog house for a while. We are still married 26 years now, but I don't think I could ever tell her.

Sometimes I feel ashamed, mainly because I'm hiding ir from her rather than from loving my dog.
 
jimwolfdog said:
I wish I could tell my wife. Early in our marriage she caught me letting our dog lick me. I was in the dog house for a while. We are still married 26 years now, but I don't think I could ever tell her.

Sometimes I feel ashamed, mainly because I'm hiding ir from her rather than from loving my dog.
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Sad to hear that.
I could never suppress myself (anymore) just to be in a marriage.
 
Zen said:
Sad to hear that.
I could never suppress myself (anymore) just to be in a marriage.
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Well, it's a bit complicated though. It's not like I'm more attracted to male dogs than humans, both male and female. I'd say it's fairly equal. I love my wife and am very much attracted to her. If and when we get another dog, who knows what will happen. I can't fault her for not liking the idea of humans and animals. She was raised in a pretty close minded home. I'm just glad she accepts my bisexuality. That's good enough for.me. ?
 
jimwolfdog said:
I wish I could tell my wife. Early in our marriage she caught me letting our dog lick me. I was in the dog house for a while. We are still married 26 years now, but I don't think I could ever tell her.

Sometimes I feel ashamed, mainly because I'm hiding ir from her rather than from loving my dog.
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I think u are not alone in that....probably many women have doggy fun too when husbands are at work.
 
I used think that I was the only one doing it ..........this was long before the internet was invented!
I never felt ashamed...I think its a natural instinct in humans...it is the idiot religions that make people ashamed.
 
Ashamed for finding animals sexy?
No.
Nobody can chose their orientation and what they feel attracted to (in the end). It's not a source of pride (for me) and not a source of shame either. It just is.

Ashamed for being associated with some of the most extreme people who ever called themself a "zoophile"?
Yes.
It's hard to associate oneself with a large group of people who just have little, rudimentary things in common. And yet, it happens.

Still... I never did anything concerning my orientation that I'm ashamed of. And when people (online as well as offline) hate on zoos, they usually pick on stereotypes, that unfortunatelly are true on occasion, but have nothing to do with me. Of course I wouldn't feel well to tell them that I'm one of them, as this would put me into a bad light for most people, and yet I've done nothing that I feel I need to hide or feel ashamed about.

So, the only feeling of shame might come from guilt by association, which is always something horrible but has nothing to do with me in the end. So, no, I don't feel ashamed for who I am, which is a guy who just happens to like men as well as women and who also happens to simply find some/most animals attractive as well.
 
Goozeflzh said:
I am a 23 y/o transguy who have always been into girls.
I also happen to have a rather low sex drive, and I am very content with being single and I do not crave for any sort of intimacy. Especially not emotionally.
But at the same time, I have also always been into male dogs. Which is weird because I'm not into human males at all really. At least I don't think so. I consider myself straight. Seriously. I am so confused by this.

I do not live by myself at the moment, and I have only been with a dog yeaaaars ago, but ever since then I have had, uh, a craving. But I hate it. It makes me feel ashamed. I don't understand why. Is it the taboo of it all? What else could it be? I want to keep it behind closed doors, but internally acting out on it would make me feel so ashamed, even though I really want to act on it someday.

Does anyone else feel the same?
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Personally lately I’ve been feeling extremely bad about it especially directly after the deed is done not sure if it’s the taboo or just hiding it from others I’ve caught my self in the act thinking to myself about wanting to be caught in the act even
 
I do feel ashamed often I largely avoid all things zoo unless I'm driven by lust which probably makes my guilt worse.

I know i haven't done anything to cause any harm and haven't even done anything illegal in regards to my zoo side apart from watching some porn.

Perhaps if i engage more in my zoo side and try to learn more about myself i may feel less guilt?

I guess i also feel ashamed because i know i have a lot to lose if i get caught and have been fortunate in my life so see this as a recklessness

Your knot alone;)
 
Horselover78 said:
Personally lately I’ve been feeling extremely bad about it especially directly after the deed is done not sure if it’s the taboo or just hiding it from others I’ve caught my self in the act thinking to myself about wanting to be caught in the act even
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Could this be a case of Postcoital Dysphoria?

"Consensual sexual activity is believed to be associated with a positive emotional experience, however, postcoital dysphoria (PCD) is a counterintuitive phenomenon characterized by inexplicable feelings of tearfulness, sadness, or irritability following otherwise satisfactory consensual sexual activity."
Source: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30040588/

It can range from sadness to anxiety, agitation, anger, basically any bad feeling, really.

Food for thought...
 
There is an extra thrill from the danger of being caught in the act...this turns some people on..but in areas where zoo sex is illegal...then it is far too risky.
 
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