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How to show (discreetly?) your pride in being a zoophile?
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Kristy
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
Why in the world would I do that? Good grief, why?
Why do you think I don't what sign would tell you I do?
Why would I need to tell public about my pets, can I only defend it if I practice it?
What evidence have you given?
You are down to 3 states that allow bestiality what do you think would happen if all 50 states ban it and it becomes a federal law. Saying something may speed this up as some of you said but is it better if it happens in 10 years instead of 50 years? Saying nothing will never stop it but saying something could
If you don't preach LGBT and antis will do it and explain why it is bad to people who don't know, why do you think you are hidden if research is done on this community?
You are against religion but you believing in hoping for this?
Why do you guys always blame religion, I rarely see people use this to support antis
Do the non zoophiles read this paper, is it advertised in placed where they are. Hawaii banned bestiality last month how do you explain that happened if zoophilia and bestiality is being more understood, did they read the paper?
You have to support those research and spread it, research on it's own is just paper you need people to see it and understand it to make a difference
When have you seen public go to journal and learning from this most have learned about these studies from activists and social media. I don't say this only for zoophiles, studies on covid has reached the public the same way. How do you decide someone is educated for a topic that is not part of public education, what about the bias you get here and on antis sides. Both have claimed they are the one who is educated
Why do you think you have to tell people about your lovers, do you think they will listen to you more if you practice it?
What makes you think the people that do don't have anything to loose?
Legal acceptance could be removed if there is no social acceptance
If what you are doing is called animal abuse then it is not a human right violation
I agree most here have only said it would be easier to find who is abusing, but this is only after it has happened, you need a way of preventing it from happening
UR20Z
Dumpster Diver
Only in your fantasy world made of fluffy bunnies and unicorn farts, kid. You'll figure that out when you finally get around to growing up.
Until then, bye-bye - You're simply not worth bothering to even TRY to have a rational discussion with.
Kazegami
Citizen of Zooville
To join those that can't express things anything other then aggressively... Perhaps a tattoo of all your beloved animals in a cage or coffin?
To join the thoughtfully and caring... Any outward advertisement has a incredibly tiny chance of attracting like minded individuals. But, something like a paw tattoo for a lost loved one is an explainable borderline. Stay away from something like the zeta symbol, and never "come out" to anyone that may not be a real zoo.
To join the thoughtfully and caring... Any outward advertisement has a incredibly tiny chance of attracting like minded individuals. But, something like a paw tattoo for a lost loved one is an explainable borderline. Stay away from something like the zeta symbol, and never "come out" to anyone that may not be a real zoo.
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Maybe Devil's Advocate here, some may see only aggression, yet I see as a WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get) man. It's a trustorthy opinion based on experience, regardless of delivery method 
(Think Dr. House)
(Think Dr. House)
The problem with your question is that it's just impossible and kinda silly (to not call it something else).
You are asking "how can I show I'm X, without people knowing I'm X"
Whatever symbol, image or anything you had in mind, you had it because it's something anyone with knowledge of zoophilia can identify, and that doesn't just mean people who are into it.
You can certainly try some stuff, but it'll end up either too obvious like the greek letter, or too ambiguous like a dog paw. And again, whatever you use that is already related to zoo will tag you for anyone to see.
That's how it is if you want to show you're part of something most people don't like (and they have their reasons to).
And I don't want to see the smarty pants saying zoo is somehow the same as homosexuality or race was half a century ago, it's not even comparable imo.
You are asking "how can I show I'm X, without people knowing I'm X"
Whatever symbol, image or anything you had in mind, you had it because it's something anyone with knowledge of zoophilia can identify, and that doesn't just mean people who are into it.
You can certainly try some stuff, but it'll end up either too obvious like the greek letter, or too ambiguous like a dog paw. And again, whatever you use that is already related to zoo will tag you for anyone to see.
That's how it is if you want to show you're part of something most people don't like (and they have their reasons to).
And I don't want to see the smarty pants saying zoo is somehow the same as homosexuality or race was half a century ago, it's not even comparable imo.
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Ruben
Guest
Obviously race was something you couldn't hide even if you wanted to, so it's definitely not comparable. Homosexuality though, yes, that's comparable.
nekdoneco123
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
i don't think it's really that comparable. at least from a "normal" person's pov. bottom line of homosexuality is that it's two adults consenting to do whatever. which gives a very clear reasoning why it should be (in some place already is) also viewed as "normal"."we" are not like that to "normals". and will never be, unless someone invents some device which lets animals talk.
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Ruben
Guest
Zoosexuality is usually also about two consenting adults. Sure, not both of them are humans. That's why it's called zoosexuality and it is not identical to homosexuality. But when do we ever compare identical things? The point of analogies is to stress similarities between different things.
In 1971 the second US state legalized homosexual acts. They were still illegal in 48 states. About being between consenting adults ... well ... between mentally disturbed adults. Homosexuality was classified in the then current Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders II as a sexually deviating sociopathic personality disturbance.
Savi
Tourist
I think it comes down to individual preference. Some people would rather not display their sexual preferences, and that is absolutely ok. Others find it an important part of their lives and would like to (discreetly or not) display that. Some people put their political/religious views on bumper stickers, some people prefer to keep that private. All forms of self-expression are valid. That being said, since there is still incredible near-universal stigma against this, it is better to err on the side of caution. Safer forms of self-expression might be a smarter choice for you if you decide to go that route.
For me personally, I've actually considered getting a zeta tattoo in an inconspicuous place once I've lost my dog virginity. I know I can get away with it, so I'm not overly worried about it outing me to the wrong people. But my situation isn't the same as everyone else's so I wouldn't recommend this to everyone. As long as you're being true to yourself and staying safe I say do whatever makes you happy.
For me personally, I've actually considered getting a zeta tattoo in an inconspicuous place once I've lost my dog virginity. I know I can get away with it, so I'm not overly worried about it outing me to the wrong people. But my situation isn't the same as everyone else's so I wouldn't recommend this to everyone. As long as you're being true to yourself and staying safe I say do whatever makes you happy.
That's the thing, homosexuality is two consenting human adults who have multiple ways to explicitly give consent.
As much as zoos like to say animals can consent (and yes, I do believe they can), the problem is that it's impossible to know with 100% certainty. Even zoos that want only the best for their animals may have problems with that.
It's something we as a community have to accept, and also understand why 'normal' people have the opinions they have. Denying this only gives us a worse image as a whole, and by that making it impossible to ever feel ok to publicly be open about it.
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Ruben
Guest
We can know with with sufficient certainty. By the way, you can't know with 100% certainty among homosexual human adults either. What's difference, speaking the same language? Spoken and written language is actually less reliable than you may think right now in this context, although you probably know better in general. People say things they don't mean all the time. When they do, they are legally responsible for the consequences and it's good enough for us to qualify as consent (as long as they were not forced to say it). But a "yes" is certainly no better sign for full inner agreement to the act than a male dog mounting you and shoving his penis into an orifice of yours.
An actually notable difference is this: A human who gets raped (and not murdered) can go to the police and denounce the perpetrator and later testify in court. A dog can't do that. That would indeed need human language. However, condemning and banning bestiality doesn't change that. The dog still can't go to the police and denounce someone who did it.
While I totally agree with that last part...
Did you just say that spoken and written language amongst humans is less reliable for consent than interspecies body language?
While yes, a male dog will hump if he wants to fuck, what about bitches? Mares? What if it's a male dog but the owner wants to do anal or oral to him?
Again, from an outsider of the zoo community, all of this looks bad, and giving the impression that we think we always know isn't helping. Sure you may "know" when your animal wants to or how it likes to, but you're not the only one, and others will hurt their animals in many ways because they don't know or because they don't care. We can't just turn around and say that doesn't happen or that we always have the answers. If we want to be somewhat accepted we have to improve these kinds of mindsets.
Did you just say that spoken and written language amongst humans is less reliable for consent than interspecies body language?
While yes, a male dog will hump if he wants to fuck, what about bitches? Mares? What if it's a male dog but the owner wants to do anal or oral to him?
Again, from an outsider of the zoo community, all of this looks bad, and giving the impression that we think we always know isn't helping. Sure you may "know" when your animal wants to or how it likes to, but you're not the only one, and others will hurt their animals in many ways because they don't know or because they don't care. We can't just turn around and say that doesn't happen or that we always have the answers. If we want to be somewhat accepted we have to improve these kinds of mindsets.
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Ruben
Guest
Saying yes or no to sex isn't rocket science. Animals can do it and do it among their own kind and towards others. Of course we have to learn their language and we have to listen. You also need to learn what нет and да mean, before human language can help you negotiate consent with a Russian. But I bet you would also find out if they agree or disagree with sex without understanding the spoken/written language, using only facial and body expressions.
Why would my fantasy have unicorn farts?
If you have grown up and lived through history then why would let it repeat, is a grown up not meant to prevent their children/younger generation making same mistake other people before them made?
@Ruben answered this
You as a zoophile is saying we need animals to talk to understand them?
nekdoneco123
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
No, my whole post was about how it prolly is from "normal" person's perspective. They need it to understand what we do can be consenting...
They do understand animals can consent because we do things with them which requires consent from them. They have a problem with sexual consent so break it down, let them prove animal can consent and then explain what are the signs of sexual consent using the signs they agreed with
Reconscope
Supreme Citizen of ZV
Best way to show zoo pride is simply respect all animals the best you can.
Boulbite77
Tourist
Well said! I think ladies are animal best friends, when you look at bestiality porn, that's obvious!
I have seen too many vids of guys just jumping on mares or dogs doing hardcore penetration, and I find it gross!
But when you see ladies into dog sex, that's another level of respect.
Just looking at how they care for their four legged partner, it's not porn, it is a woman and a dog making love!
Reconscope
Supreme Citizen of ZV
I agree the eagerness of males throws me off.
However when i had my mate i made sure everything she had control over.
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Deleted member
Guest
Aaaaand just where have you been seeing this?
The rubbish I see on FORBIDDEN_WEBSITE!, both genders are abusive.
Can't compare a lady in a genuine relationship to an "ugh, bug, fuk" dude like most of the fetish seekers here.
RandomEquine
Zooville Settler
I make sure my animals are happy, healthy, and get the best care I can provide for them. I go above and beyond what most mundane “animal lovers” would do to better the lives of my animal companions. I don’t need to advertise my private interests to the general public. The happiness of my animals is the ultimate subtle expression of my pride for being a zoophile.
HugDoggy
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
I have not spent much time at all in the female porn section on this site, but if what you are saying is based on the commercial porn out there, the amount of teasing and making it impossible for the male dog to mount properly through positioning of pussy and legs, mishandling of genitals, dildogging, letting most of the penis dry out while doing oral, long fingernails on delicate animal parts, etc. These are not loving things.
When it comes to porn (commercial stuff anyway) no gender has the high ground and generally speaking loving it ain't. If you want loving you need to see a real zoo at work with their special animal(s) in their life. Rather than just someone carrying out an act of bestiality for the camera.
UR20Z
Dumpster Diver
What? I'm not the only one that cringes and deletes the file when it shows some bimbo wearing those shitty-looking inch-long Lee Press-On claws (or almost as bad, usually several of those god-awful artsy-fartsy rings that are WAY too obviously cheap ass shit made of pot-metal and glass, with the stickers and stabbers and spikes and sharp corners poking out of 'em in all directions) handling a dog's cock??? Wow... All these years, I've been convinced I was the only one, since until now, I've never seen so much as a peep out of ANYBODY about the concept.
HugDoggy
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
I keep my nails cut as short as is comfortable to do their job, obviously they are their to protect the ends of your fingers, but the entire reason I keep my nails short is for handling sensitive penises of my lovers. I would be very upset if I thought I ever caused any animal pain during sexual contact, thus when I see the talons on the fingers in porn it's a complete turn off for me. Even if you get away with it 9 times out of 10 without long nails coming into contact with a penis the risk is always there that damage or pain could be caused. And for what? Fashion?
Boulbite77
Tourist
hey, that's just my point of view!
I literally consider that a lady having sex with animals is just beautiful, no matter the relationship is genuine or not.
I don't know what you are into, but I am turned on when I see a lady, face unmasked, playing with the dick of an animal with a big smile, I don't care if there a relationship between them, I feel aroused just thinking that the lady needs sex so badly she only is satisfied with animals.
Sex with beloved ones is of course the best and I respect that the most. I just think, that sometimes like our companions we get aroused and have urges for sex, once again like our companions. I just like seeing ladies getting orgasms from animals
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HugDoggy
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
So in short if I understand you correctly it doesn't matter what act is being performed and how the animal feels about it as long as the human is a female and not a male it is all good to you?
I'm trying really hard not to be judgy, but if that is your out look it sounds a little
to me. Do you at least know the signs of when a dog or stallion is experiencing pleasure or what their REAL cum looks like if you're talking about them emptying their balls. Most of the time in commercial porn what you see as cum dripping out of a female actor's mouth, came out of a bottle not a penis. It is even common practice with stallions to have a tube on the side of the penis facing away from the camera to squirt stuff out of.
Glancing at the top of my screen, this is in the zoo pride thread? If the animal isn't enjoying it as much as or more than the human there is nothing to be proud of.
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pupwhoshaggedme
Guest
Lol welcome to most of the people on this forum. You ask a question or talk about a statement and your immediatly judged for it. Pay them no mind; focus on the comments that you wanna answer not the air heads that only blow off steam.