RandomEquine
Zooville Settler
I do not advertise that part of my life unless I am dealing with other like-minded people. If anything I show my pride in being a zoosexual by providing exceptional care for the animals in my keeping.
How to show (discreetly?) your pride in being a zoophile?
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HugDoggy
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
See now that's an interesting point, some of the smaller dogs have huge dick for their body size so if you enlarged a Chihuahua up to the size of a great dane or mastiff their dicks would the comparable to a pony's penis.
So it would be interesting to compare penis size as a percentage of body size.
Wasbitchpolly
Prized Citizen of ZV
Nature doesn’t know about graphs and percentages
HugDoggy
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
No perhaps not, but I need to find the right dog to use my new enlarging ray on. However the battery is almost flat, and I've only got one shot left, so I need to choose wisely.
Nyxdoglover
BANNED
Paw or Zeta tattoos
saddlebum66
Supreme Citizen of ZV
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Not so sure about this one surely as a community don't we have any power at all, to nudge at change or improving public perception without directly endangering the members of the community?
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No, we don't. We are outnumbered and outgunned, and history shows we always will be so. As for a thread outlining why keeping one's head down is a must, How many of those are already here? How many times has it been said elsewhere? Reality Check....Pornography isnt going away. The Pornheads who follow this hobby keep it raw and exposed to Joe and Jenny Mundane. Jane has conniptions when she catches Junior or Juniorette exploring sexuality, especially alternate ones....and this alternate most of all.
YOU are a prime example. Whatever your profession, if it IS one , it requires a license. If it requires a license, theres a board to grant or deny. Though its not really legal, how would you know if it is your open declaration of Zooishness, or something else, if there's a complaint? Those boards are good at hiding less than perfect reasoning, which is why its difficult to open malpractice cases administratively instead of Full-Court Judge and Jury. Even "Accepted" issues, being female, black, gay, or foreign-schooled can be denied subrosa, and it may never become known. In this respect, it comes down to "When you have to ask, the answer will be 'No' ". When the Courts say its okay to not bake a wedding cake if you don't like the Wedding( and being Gay and marrying is not illegal).... What do you think it will take to get biscuits for your doggy lover? Power? Nope, and not in the forseeable future.
Not so sure about this one surely as a community don't we have any power at all, to nudge at change or improving public perception without directly endangering the members of the community?
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No, we don't. We are outnumbered and outgunned, and history shows we always will be so. As for a thread outlining why keeping one's head down is a must, How many of those are already here? How many times has it been said elsewhere? Reality Check....Pornography isnt going away. The Pornheads who follow this hobby keep it raw and exposed to Joe and Jenny Mundane. Jane has conniptions when she catches Junior or Juniorette exploring sexuality, especially alternate ones....and this alternate most of all.
YOU are a prime example. Whatever your profession, if it IS one , it requires a license. If it requires a license, theres a board to grant or deny. Though its not really legal, how would you know if it is your open declaration of Zooishness, or something else, if there's a complaint? Those boards are good at hiding less than perfect reasoning, which is why its difficult to open malpractice cases administratively instead of Full-Court Judge and Jury. Even "Accepted" issues, being female, black, gay, or foreign-schooled can be denied subrosa, and it may never become known. In this respect, it comes down to "When you have to ask, the answer will be 'No' ". When the Courts say its okay to not bake a wedding cake if you don't like the Wedding( and being Gay and marrying is not illegal).... What do you think it will take to get biscuits for your doggy lover? Power? Nope, and not in the forseeable future.
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Oily
Zooville Settler
I saw some subtle usages of it where it looked more like a flair or typo thing than anything.
I'm not so sure if this is a good idea, it's rather permanent and might end up being difficult to hide while constantly raising questions.
It's also not terribly subtle.
Cardsman167
Lurker
I know there’s two flags in existence, one is brown and a few shades of green ifirc, and the other one is a nice purple white and blue. Zeta is nice but unfortunately due to twitter it’s become known. I’ve also had ideas for three different designs, two of which subtly use the zeta symbol and another which doesn’t and is very more discreet.
might posting them sometime soon!?
might posting them sometime soon!?
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Ruben
Guest
Showing pride and being discreet about it usually don't go together. But you can show that you love animals without implying a sexual component, hence being discreet about the latter. Many shirts and stickers which express love for animals are available and you can even make your own design and have it printed on a shirt, coffee mug, as a pendant ...
Gunslinger1X
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
Wife bought me a shirt at TSC "What happens in the barn, stays in the barn"
UR20Z
Dumpster Diver
Cute... I wonder if anyone would make one:Wife bought me a shirt at TSC "What happens in the barn, stays in the barn"
Here on the farm
shit happens
And happens...
And happens...
And happens...
And happens...
AUGH! I'M SO SICK OF THIS SHIT!!!
I might even buy one if they did
D
Deleted member
Guest
I saw a similar bumper sticker on a local "honey spreader" trailerCute... I wonder if anyone would make one:
Here on the farm
shit happens
And happens...
And happens...
And happens...
And happens...
AUGH! I'M SO SICK OF THIS SHIT!!!
I might even buy one if they did
Pride can only happen after social acceptance, LGBT only showed there pride after they had social acceptance and were allowed to parade. The users here have explained what could show people you are a zoo, but why do you want to?
Why don't you want to push zoo rights?
What zoo rights are you against?
SalemCromwell95
Tourist
im proud of my like of sour dough bread and no one can tell me otherwise
UR20Z
Dumpster Diver
Red herring.
Zoo rights would be great, at least in theory. The attempt to achieve "zoo rights" is a dead-end that will - not might, not could, but WILL - result only in more and worse restrictions than already exist, and more and worse impacts on zoos and/or their critters. For what? The right to fuck your dog on the courthouse lawn? The "I'm So Speshul" badge you get for being "sexually extreme"? Some other benefit that I simply can't dream up?
Look, obviously you're big on stirring the shit-kettle. So am I. But on this one, where it's not a harmless bit of fun, no stirring is needed - the less, the better, in fact. Start trying to be the queers, and all that can happen is bad. There is no "win" for us in that game. The only thing that CAN be accomplished is putting zoos "on the radar" of J. Q. Public, which will never go anywhere good. As we (collecctively speaking) stand, we're "under the radar", "out of sight, out of mind". Sure - Any Tom, Dick, or Harriet can pop in here and see that we exist. But that's not putting us in view in any significant way. But pull a stunt like Hossie's debacle on the Springer show, put us in the front of J.Q.Public's mind, and the result is VERY predictable: Screams of outrage and calls for "Something to be done" about those "animal fucking freaks". Hell, it doesn't need to be "predicted". All one has to do to *KNOW* what the result will be is to look at the last 30-ish years, and what the result of *EVERY SINGLE* effort in the direction of "Yep, we're here, we fuck animals, just leave us alone" (or worse - "and we demand the right to _________") has been. I can sum it up in a single word: BAD. OK, two words: VERY BAD.
Gunslinger1X
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
Those who ignore the lessons of history are doomed to repeat it
Rights are not fought only for sex, it would be for acceptance for animals to not be judged slaves of human who forever acts like children. But zoo rights is to vague that's why I asked what exactly is he against
You are on that radar, your not invisible and the recent laws indicates it's going bad
They know you exist, why do you think they don't?
The result is the same when you don't say anything, a classic example is what happens when you are fighting and your opponent don't attack back do you show mercy or take advantage of this? What about when that person abuses animals?
Who has made that effort and how many?
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Living the life you always wanted with your animals.
UR20Z
Dumpster Diver
You start. Get out there in the lead and go for it. Let us know how it turns out for you. Do be sure to make arrangements for any critters looking to you for care beforehand - Assuming you actually have any. THEY are they ones that are gonna get burnt worst by your idiocy. Otherwise, shut up and join Smegma-whatsis in the "let's you and him fight" box.
HugDoggy
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
Pride can also be shown in the way you are seen to take good care of your animal, like making sure their coat is brushed regularly and there shouldn't be a knot in sight. After all hair knots can be painful for the animal if it pulls on their skin; and the other kind of knot falls under what you should keep discrete heading so it shouldn't be seen by a passer by either. Pride can be shown by giving them the tools (training) to display good manners, so they understand how to fit in to the madness that is human society.
I think someone who is a true zoo is someone who cares about all aspects of the animal, so make those things that are acceptable to see the light of day in polite society, shine brighter than the sun. So give them a quick peck if you like, but save the tongue wrestling for the bedroom.
Let me put it this way:
"If your going to mess around with the horses park the wagons in a circle first." In other words if someone looks in and is shocked, it's their fault. If your doing it right in the open and they are shocked, it's your fault.
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Deleted member
Guest
I posted this in another thread, but it's applicable here...
Forcing things down peoples throat is a great way to start a further crusade against us and get a lot of people caught in the net that have nothing to do with leftist lunacy.
Did Freddie Mercury get the LGBT largely recognized by being Che Guevara? No, he won hearts.
Did the leaders of Tiennamen Square get their political freedom? No, they got everyone, even those not involved directly, rounded up and shot!
Forcing things down peoples throat is a great way to start a further crusade against us and get a lot of people caught in the net that have nothing to do with leftist lunacy.
Did Freddie Mercury get the LGBT largely recognized by being Che Guevara? No, he won hearts.
Did the leaders of Tiennamen Square get their political freedom? No, they got everyone, even those not involved directly, rounded up and shot!
I'm going to copy and paste a reply to someone else because it expresses my reasoning...
One can preach "zoo rights" sunrise until sunset. It doesn't stop that fact that most non-zoo people liken zoophilia and bestiality to a mental illness and that our love is actually "rape" no matter how much evidence says otherwise. Fighting for zoo rights is fighting an uphill battle of ignorance and bias. There is a reason that the older members of the zoo community are strictly against people advocating for zoo rights on their behalf. They've lived through the history. The more we try to preach our love to the outside world, the more they become aware that we exist in the first place, and in turn harsher and stricter laws are passed against us. They've seen this time and time again.
The only thing I believe we can hope for is the decriminalization of bestiality within say, maybe 100 years, but probably more. The western world is slowly but surely losing it's deep rooted Judeo-Christian values as time progresses. More and more universities are starting to do research into the morality, the logic, and the motives behind the people that practice bestiality and even non-sexual zoophilic relationships. In time, zoos might become more understood on an academic level. As more and more publications explaining the psychology, the motives, and the morality of zoophilia and bestiality are actually published, the more we might gain a little bit of tolerance. Not acceptance, but a shed of tolerance from those that are not like us. It's also why I'm happy ZooVille has partnered up with researchers pushing surveys. It's getting this ball rolling. I don't know if it'll be in the right direction or not, because none of the publications have been released as of yet.
But this isn't something that's going to happen overnight. This isn't something that is going to be assisted by going onto Twitter and preaching for the acceptance of zoos. All this accomplishes is creating a "zoo positivity" echo chamber. The only thing that will help us is scientific and psychological studies. Even with this, there will always be the naysayers trying to push us back down to square one. There's a good possibility that the naysayers will always outnumber those that are zoos or people educated enough to understand it and tolerate it. Most of the masses are undereducated, and most of the masses are ignorant. It's a sad fact of life.
None of us are against zoo rights but all sane zoos are more worried about the health and safety of our lovers than chasing public acceptance. It's easy to take chances when you have nothing to lose, but we've got everything to lose. Cops could and would legally break down my front door and "destroy" my mate, who is essentially my wife, if they found out what we do in private.
I don’t think I’ve ever responded to a post around here......but I read this post thinking that the OP might be trying to express a way to quietly communicate with others who share the same values, and the first page(even though months old) starts unnecessary arguments. I read it cause I thought it was a good question. I don’t think it’s got to do with “pride.” I think it’s about belonging and acceptance.
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Ruben
Guest
Unlike most vocal members here I am actually for addressing the legal situation, but I really think the term zoo rights is a bad choice. That would be identity politics, eww.
It's rather about a sane body of law (as in no crime without victim for example), about human rights (as in it's no one's business what I do in my home unless I violate the rights of someone else, also pursuit of happiness with the same constraint) and maybe about animal welfare (as in don't remove an animal from a home where it is happy). Protecting animals from sexual abuse should also be on one's mind and suggestions offered how to achieve that without and actually better than with a general bestiality ban. Make clear that this is something anyone should get behind and not about giving cookies to a very unpopular minority.
thecloud
Citizen of Zooville
Just respect every animal around you, from bug to birds. Be friendly, be a good dog owner. No need to signal being a zoo. There is no hidden code or sign and there doen not have to be one. We meet here, where noone has to be exeot those who want to be here. Thats enough in my opinion. ?
