I've com across this too and in my experience the person essentially said that they wished they never knew they were into _______I may have gotten some furries to full on realize they were zoos, not that they wouldn't have done it without me anyway. Curiously, most of them also hated me for it soon afterwards
or because they themselves didn't even want to knowProbably because they didn't want anyone to know they were....
Thanks for sharing that! Too many people project their own bad experiences onto others - and especially in this forum, being reactively judgemental is exactly what zoophobes do! People who live in glass houses should throw stones - and you would think those easily offended sanctimonious hypocrites 'might' just understand that!Wow has this thread become a mess. People reading way to heavily into negative connotations here. I'll provide an example of some very recent happenings for me that unexpectedly opened the door for my current partner. A few weeks ago we were going at it after having one too many adult beverages and she asked me what "in my wildest dreams would I do to her and she couldn't say no". At first I thought it was a joke and brushed it off but she persisted. She also is aware of my zoo interests but has never directly questioned or hinted at wanting to know more. So after several prying moments I finally told her I'd love to see her licked by our dog. It wasn't aggressive, grooming, forcing... none of that. In fact, I was terrified the moment I spewed the words out of my mouth.
Fast forward to yesterday and I placed an order for a few canine toys for her to try after we looked at them together. So I said all that to say this.
If your interests in getting your partner involved come from a place of respect and love then I don't see how people can believe that is in any way negative. It won't always work out the way it did for me but being honest and respectful is the best approach to any sharing of sexual interests imo.
Well guess what? What you think of as 'gross' is exceedingly common in the sex industry - especially porn. Lots of straight guys get paid by gay guys for the privilege of sucking their dicks or getting wanked off. Plenty of straight guys even go to glory holes so they don't have to see the ugly guy on the other side so they can experience a top quality free blowjob that their wives/girlfriends cannot or will not provide."Seducing" someone into trying zoo seems gross. Its the same kind of gross as straight girls trying to "seduce" gay guys into fucking them or gay guys trying to "seduce" straight dudes into fucking them. Even as a 'kink' thing it seems objectifying to both parties involved. Encouraging someone to explore it on their own in their own time is one thing but "seducing" them into actually doing it is a whole different can of worms
I hope you can find someone in your local area to help you out there!I wish I had a friend like you who would introduce me to Zoophilia. ?
Thanks for sharing - well done!I've never actively attempted to seduce anyone into being aroused by zoo stuff. That being said, I tend to be very very open about my sexual interests (for better or for worse) and I've told everyone I've ever been with what I was into in the hopes that we shared a common forbidden kink. My most recent ex took it upon herself to go check out some zoo stuff after one of our dates and the next time I saw her she casually mentioned "oh hey, I think I may like one of your 'bad' kinks". Well it was zoo, of course, but she was mostly into the fact that some dogs have huge dicks lol.
Not surprised at all! Just as there is internalised homophobia, there must also be internalised zoophobia. ?I may have gotten some furries to full on realize they were zoos, not that they wouldn't have done it without me anyway. Curiously, most of them also hated me for it soon afterwards
Interesting experience! Thanks for sharing! I respect your daring, I must say!I have “tempted” a woman I used to know by talking with her about all kind if kinky stuff, and in the end send her a link to some stuff I thought was a little to edgy but still hot. A zoo movie was among it. Of everything she pointed that one out and was curious enough to ask what I liked about it.
A few years later I got to meet her in real life and help her out with her first experience ever with her cat.
Even if it was a great experience I’m not sure I would recommend it to others. I have been lucky a couple of times that my honesty and open mind have lead to some great zoo experiences. But the older version of me gotta admit it could have back fired big times.
Its not so much reading into as just the reality of the fantasy. Its great if the person you're with is into that kind of exploration but people (and their sexuality) aren't toys to be played with or a set of boundaries to be pushed and an animal isn't your personal little whore to let other people try out.People reading way to heavily into negative connotations here.
This statement is projection in itself. You're assuming that people are reacting negatively out of personal experience, rather than reacting negatively out of principle, and thusly are dismissing the concerns as just people who are to wrapped up in their own issues.Too many people project their own bad experiences onto others
This is an assumption, rather than an attempt to understand the concern. You are making the assumption that the negative response is a knee-jerk reaction, rather than a response based on some principle or an evaluation of the reality of the fantasy.being reactively judgemental is exactly what zoophobes do!
This is an attempt to deflect criticism. Instead of responding to the criticism you are placing yourself in a position of invulnerability by painting everyone to be in a precarious situation due to being zoos. "Nobody can criticize me because other people can criticize you" is the line of logicPeople who live in glass houses should throw stones
Ad hom. Instead of address the concern you paint everyone as being some kind of negative and thusly you are now free to dismiss their criticism because it came from an imperfect person.and you would think those easily offended sanctimonious hypocrites 'might' just understand that!
Deflection. "Everyone who doesn't like my fantasy just doesn't understand it"Glad that you at least understood rather than misinterpreted the gist of what I was alluding to
That doesn't make it right. It's incredibly coercive to get people to betray their sexuality out of their need for money. I find it just as vile in porn as I find in real life or fantasy. Coercing people to do things they otherwise wouldn't through their needs is the antithesis of consent.What you think of as 'gross' is exceedingly common in the sex industry - especially porn
I should have clarified what I meant rather than just saying gross. I think that trying to "seduce" someone into exploring a sexuality that isn't their own shows that you don't respect their sexuality and I don't think we should be viewing other people's sexuality as a malleable thing to be shaped to our whim to get us off. If that's your view then that's something along the lines of thinking people can't figure their shit out on their own until you or someone else who knows better comes along and fixes them. If someone expresses some amount of curiosity or you mention your sexuality and they ask for follow up then that's absolutely fair game in my eyes but the initial "Oh won't somebody fuck my horse *wink wink nudge nudge*" fantasy comes off exactly like when gay or straight people will try to trick or trap somebody of the opposite sexuality into betraying that sexuality either for their own gratification or as some kind of ego trip.anyone who thinks otherwise is skating on very thin ice considering that most people regard your entire orientation itself as 'gross and disgusting'!
Its not so much reading into as just the reality of the fantasy. Its great if the person you're with is into that kind of exploration but people (and their sexuality) aren't toys to be played with or a set of boundaries to be pushed and an animal isn't your personal little whore to let other people try out.
This statement is projection in itself. You're assuming that people are reacting negatively out of personal experience, rather than reacting negatively out of principle, and thusly are dismissing the concerns as just people who are to wrapped up in their own issues.
This is an assumption, rather than an attempt to understand the concern. You are making the assumption that the negative response is a knee-jerk reaction, rather than a response based on some principle or an evaluation of the reality of the fantasy.
This is an attempt to deflect criticism. Instead of responding to the criticism you are placing yourself in a position of invulnerability by painting everyone to be in a precarious situation due to being zoos. "Nobody can criticize me because other people can criticize you" is the line of logic
Ad hom. Instead of address the concern you paint everyone as being some kind of negative and thusly you are now free to dismiss their criticism because it came from an imperfect person.
Deflection. "Everyone who doesn't like my fantasy just doesn't understand it"
That doesn't make it right. It's incredibly coercive to get people to betray their sexuality out of their need for money. I find it just as vile in porn as I find in real life or fantasy. Coercing people to do things they otherwise wouldn't through their needs is the antithesis of consent.
I should have clarified what I meant rather than just saying gross. I think that trying to "seduce" someone into exploring a sexuality that isn't their own shows that you don't respect their sexuality and I don't think we should be viewing other people's sexuality as a malleable thing to be shaped to our whim to get us off. If that's your view then that's something along the lines of thinking people can't figure their shit out on their own until you or someone else who knows better comes along and fixes them. If someone expresses some amount of curiosity or you mention your sexuality and they ask for follow up then that's absolutely fair game in my eyes but the initial "Oh won't somebody fuck my horse *wink wink nudge nudge*" fantasy comes off exactly like when gay or straight people will try to trick or trap somebody of the opposite sexuality into betraying that sexuality either for their own gratification or as some kind of ego trip.
Yes, master... Your bidding shall be done.I'm sorry but if you have this much time to break down the conversation you should go find something more important to cry about. People dying, starving, and without homes all over the world and you are righting a PHD dissertation on how everyone else should interpret this conversation. Grow up.
**Please don't bother replying... there is a certain sector of this forum full of people who are beyond judgemental and almost come of as "moral gatekeepers" who feel they need to press their ideas onto everyone else about how they should handle every single situation. News flash.. we've all had enough of that shit this year.
I'll reply just because you asked me not to**Please don't bother replying... there is a certain sector of this forum full of people who are beyond judgemental and almost come of as "moral gatekeepers" who feel they need to press their ideas onto everyone else about how they should handle every single situation. News flash.. we've all had enough of that shit this year.
You would be amazed how many sanctimonious prudes there are on a site like this! WTF?!? ??Preach!!.. exactly. Consenting adults. Only live once. It baffels me how some people are vinilla in bed and never do anything but missionary... try new thingsm explore. U dojt like ut its not for u. Far to many prudes out there.
Thank you so much for sharing that! You've kind of confirmed what I've suspected. I reckon if an 'adventurous guy' felt safe he would not get caught, he would definitely be curious to try something taboo! ?It's the taboo of something that makes them cum so hard and fast, no doubt! ? I'm honestly more curious about seducing male friends and acquaintances this way, because it has a greater chance of success with the primal male libido.Many times, yes. Grindr and scruff hookups.. never try with someome thats vanilla that suck in bed to begin with.. ive seduced guys into playing with my male pitty. Hottest thing ever to see the face a guy makes the first time he feels his dick enter a warm male dog butt. Most guys talk a big game about being able to last 40 min. And they try my pup ajd most cum within 20 30 seconds. Hahahaha
Its all about the rush.
You would be amazed how many sanctimonious prudes there are on a site like this! WTF?!? ??