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Dealing with shame

Shame and guilt are the two biggest issues I’m facing. Even not having actually done anything. Just having certain feelings is enough to start the shame spiral..
 
I don't feel shame or guilt. I've never done anything real so I don't know how I'd feel after the fact. I think I just felt excitement at the thought of it very early on. Now I'm just used to it.
 
laurenh03 said:
Shame and guilt are the two biggest issues I’m facing. Even not having actually done anything. Just having certain feelings is enough to start the shame spiral..
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I have not been active in well over a decade and I still go through periods of guilt and shame over it. I created this account here to help me continue to deal with it and it really does help to talk about something I don't dare to with anybody I know in my life.

Having held on to it so tightly and for as long as I have I think the hiding part only contributes to and enhances the guilt. I have not yet found any answers or tricks to make it go away and honestly I was hoping there would be more discussion of this here and I really haven't seen much of it at all. Maybe I'm just not looking in the right places for it but maybe it's a part that most people, including me, don't really want to face and work through.
 
Life's too god dam short. The only truth you need to live by is your own. I think about it sometimes myself, what if I had done everything my parents planned for me to do. Finnish college, get married to a woman, have kids, go to church. I'd be miserable because I wouldn't be living my own life. Sure I was the "black sheep " of the family right at first.

Yea I struggle with drugs for a few years. Yes I made a few mistakes, but dog show me one person who never did and I'll show you someone who never truly loved. Here I am , rich, successful, but more importantly I'm happy.

No one knew back then it would turn out this way. My siblings that did "what was expected of them" their lives suck, they never paid off school loans. They even moved back in with my parents. And they aren't happy. Mainly because they never let themselves get happy.

Worst case scenario I get doxxed as a zoo one day. Fuck it , I got money I'll just move away , and honestly it might be better that way.

Just live your life on your terms. Don't fucking worry about any one else's definitely of success.

That's how I see it -peace
 
I was full of shame for seemingly disappointing my family , oh and I dated ... A man.. oh , you would have thought I basically ripped my mom's heart right out. Fuck em , they didn't like it, not my problem.

I smoked weed back when it was illegal everywhere, I went to raves , I used party drugs often and met crazy people. And yes , when the opportunity presented itself I had sex with dogs.

And guess what, I wouldn't trade my life with anyone. And on my headstone when I lay to rest , it might read , here lies dog fucker.

I'm bloody proud of who I am , the man I grew into.
 
Felt extremely ashamed of myself, mainly when seeing people complain about us in mainstream media, demonizing us a lot, however my fiancee is quite open about it and finding communities like this is nice, every time I feel demonized, I come back to these sites to feel better and know that as long as the animal is not being hurt, this zoo style is ok.

And also, stallions and mares are the best.
 
I❤️Horses said:
Hey. I created this account a few years ago but haven’t been on because of shame and fear of being found out. Tonight I couldn’t take it anymore and came on here. As the name implies I love horses both mares and stallions. I’ve never done anything irl. I’m at a very low point and wanted to hear how y’all deal with feeling disgusting with yourself.
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You are amazing...I feel shame too sometimes but I feel stronger when i hear from more zoos xx
 
One thing I am no is disgusted or ashamed with myself regarding zoo. I felt a bit of that at one point until I realized that:
1. I am who I am and was made that way.
2. If God is real, then he made me this way.
3. There is nothing wrong with loving other creatures.
4. Back to #2, he made them such that they clearly love me.
5. Provided that no harm is done, and no objection from any INVOLVED party, then any definition of "wrong" is purely human and really has no basis other than "because i said so", and has no merit in anything factual in the universe.
6. If God is real and loves us, then why would both us and the animals be drawn to each other? In other words, why would a loving, kind, caring God put something in both us and an animal that God himself defined as "wrong"? Simple answer is he wouldn't, no more than any loving parent would try to teach their kid something that they knew could get them killed. So if there is a God, I think he put this here for a reason. Otherwise, there is no God, and the "wrong" isn't wrong, but simply society's opinion based on a book written by man.

Nothing in my heart or gut tells me that how I feel is wrong.

On the contrary. Loving and caring for a life other than my own feels right, even if it is another species.
 
Jill 83 said:
I have not been active in well over a decade and I still go through periods of guilt and shame over it. I created this account here to help me continue to deal with it and it really does help to talk about something I don't dare to with anybody I know in my life.

Having held on to it so tightly and for as long as I have I think the hiding part only contributes to and enhances the guilt. I have not yet found any answers or tricks to make it go away and honestly I was hoping there would be more discussion of this here and I really haven't seen much of it at all. Maybe I'm just not looking in the right places for it but maybe it's a part that most people, including me, don't really want to face and work through.
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You shouldn't feel shame or guilt unless you harmed someone or an animal.

I've seen enough in person now to full heartedly believe that these special critters are not stupid and full well know what they are doing when they do it, and are not only willing, but WANTING.

You aren't bad or evil for having the desire or thoughts. They are part of you and no loving God would put that there to torture you!

On the contrary. I feel those like us are actually more connected to nature and how things really are, and I feel it is society that is really blind.

We at least have reasons for doing what we do, and that also extends to who we do it with. If the reason is because we love and want to, then that is good enough.

What reason can society claim for shaming us? Because a book says so? Because they say so? Because beyond those reasons, which are baseless in themselves, there exists NO other reason.

Be proud of who you are! I know my pup loves his life, and us happy, and I will make no apologies for loving him.

I'm proud to know how much he loves me!

I know he's been better to me than any human ever has, and who's fault is that?

So realize that many humans are shit bags, and love trying to force their agenda and beliefs onto others to make themselves feel better at another's expense.

They ate the ones that need to be feeling shame and guilt for how they've treated not just other people, but animals as well.
 
I❤️Horses said:
Idk if this means it’s a fetish to me, but when I watch zoo porn, it’s the most beautiful thing in the world but after I cum I feel guilty
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I can definitely relate to how you feel about this. I've tried to ban zoo porn from my life so many times, but never really succeeded in the over 40 (!!) years I've been into this lifestyle. Still no one in my surroundings knows about this kink of mine and I will probably take it to the grave. But I realized for myself that nothing EVER gave me the same level of excitement then watching and/or having zoo sex. So I except myself for who I am, and even if I never meet someone irl to share this with, platforms like this do give me peace of mind.... Thank God for zooville forum ?
 
Shame can be overtime with "normalisation", that is, listening/reading about other people's experiences and sharing your own thoughts and desires. You will come to understand yourself better and hopefully with time and patience accept yourself in full. Above all, always be kind to yourself ❤️
 
cbrnth said:
Shame can be overtime with "normalisation", that is, listening/reading about other people's experiences and sharing your own thoughts and desires. You will come to understand yourself better and hopefully with time and patience accept yourself in full. Above all, always be kind to yourself ❤️
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Shame can be overcome with ...
 
Jill 83 said:
I have not been active in well over a decade and I still go through periods of guilt and shame over it. I created this account here to help me continue to deal with it and it really does help to talk about something I don't dare to with anybody I know in my life.

Having held on to it so tightly and for as long as I have I think the hiding part only contributes to and enhances the guilt. I have not yet found any answers or tricks to make it go away and honestly I was hoping there would be more discussion of this here and I really haven't seen much of it at all. Maybe I'm just not looking in the right places for it but maybe it's a part that most people, including me, don't really want to face and work through.
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It's ok to follow your desires and needs.
 
I❤️Horses said:
Hey. I created this account a few years ago but haven’t been on because of shame and fear of being found out. Tonight I couldn’t take it anymore and came on here. As the name implies I love horses both mares and stallions. I’ve never done anything irl. I’m at a very low point and wanted to hear how y’all deal with feeling disgusting with yourself.
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Once you realize that the guilt is caused by something you don't have control over (the religious and social aspects of being human) you'll start to understand that there's not really a need to feel guilty as long as you understand and know how to show genuine compassion to animals.
 
Do you feel ashamed? Have you ever felt that this is a bad or wrong thing? If your partner was open, would you do it in front of him?
 
Yes in the beginning. And I always do it behind my partner. That is how dogs work. :p
 
I've been fortunate enough to never have...never have a disgusting feeling...or any feeling of regret or remorse...and I don't say this as to rub it in...but rather more so you understand why...and hopefully hearing why I don't Will make you feel more comfortable with it.

Ever since I was young I felt close to animals...not just sexually attracted
.but emotionally as well...I'd spend any moment I could with them (in my case it was dogs). I didn't have any of my own nor did my family so any time with dogs was at a friend's place or other secondary family members houses....I've posted about this before so I won't go on about it...however, the older I grew the more I realized....all the relationships and such I'd watch in movies or tv...I've never felt with a human but I felt with an animal...I felt close...I felt bonded...I felt like I've discovered what I wanted as soulmate to be.

A few years later I got close to a specific dog...fell in love with them, they mated with me...and even though it wasn't the best first time (due to my inexperience) I wouldn't have has it any other way because I made love...I got to give a dog all of me to them absolutely fullest.

Nothing felt better; and nothing that feels so emotionally and spiritually and physically strong can be something I regret or find disgusting. In my paws I know the dogs are loved and cared for with no limits, unconditionally.
 
I❤️Horses said:
Hey. I created this account a few years ago but haven’t been on because of shame and fear of being found out. Tonight I couldn’t take it anymore and came on here. As the name implies I love horses both mares and stallions. I’ve never done anything irl. I’m at a very low point and wanted to hear how y’all deal with feeling disgusting with yourself.
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what you're feeling is natural because you still view them as dumb animals and pets you need to work on viewing them as your equals and a suitable lover not just a animal or living fleshlight that being said if you only view animals as a sex object you deserve to feel shame
 
that feelings are natural, since your complete environment tells you it is bad. And at first, you think you are the only one. For me it was worse since there was no internet when I was first comfronted with my feelings. I remember my first interactions, I was staying with a friend who was also zoo. Regarding the topic, he once said "well I know you for a long time, I trust you, the dogs and you are old enought to make their own decisions, what consentually happens, that happens" It never was planned or expected and it was the idea of his female dog to start bugging me since she had experience and was rather dominant and feisty. So I just started exploring, expecting to encounter something jucky or unpleasant...that was not the case she smelled wonderful, she was laying on her back and I licked her. She also taught me what deepthroating is...she really enjoyed it and for me it didnt feel bad at all it was very intense. In the morning at the breakfast table, realising what happened that night i couldn't speak much since I felt so much shame...what have I done..my friend noticed it, smiled and said "question do you like it?" err yes "she liked it too otherwise she would not have allowed it. So whats the deal? Do you really think a human couple doesn't do that too? It is a thing between you and her. No business for others ." He was right but that reailization came much later. Today I just smile and think "boy if you would know":p
 
I don't feel disgusted with myself. I accept myself because I know I want the best for my girl when I get her than anything in the world. I genuinely haven't been happier since I finally accepted who I am.

Edit: it took me years to accept myself though
 
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