A complete guide to bitch sex

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This is a guide, and only a guide into intercourse with female canines. This is an overlaying outline of the norm, on an individual basis conditions and situations may differ. All the advice given is from personal experience and advanced education, not second hand sources. If your experience is different, then you fall outside the category this guide is written for.

I will cover several aspects and important information on sex with female canines
(Bitches)

Topic headings will be in bold to help you find the section that most helps you.

I will also give a small tutorial at canine behavior for those who are unfamiliar with signs. A dog will not give you mixed signals, she will tell you exactly what she wants even if it confuses you to no end.

A misconception

There is no such thing as training a dog for sex. There are different things that a dog can or will learn about sex and sex techniques, but there is not dog sex training. Puppies are sexually immature. Yes they will go into heat, but her body is still developing and the last thing she needs is worrying about you touching her new things.

Do not ever try to “train” a dog for sex. A canine that enjoys your company can be shown techniques later on. First show her you intend to care for her and love her for more than her cunt. Then you truly can enjoy each other.

WHAT ABOUT DOG SIZE?

For bitches, size does matter. For vaginal contact nothing smaller than an Australian shepherd should have sexual contact with humans. Some select medium breeds can have human intercourse, but it is suggested that large and giant breeds are more suited to take human sizes.

THE KNOT FITS, WHY WON’T I?

The dogs’ penis is not like a humans. A human keeps a marginally tapered penis with a nervous ring about the head. A dogs’ penis is tapered with a nervous head and a knot. But the knot is not the base of the penis. There is a continuing shaft of the penis behind the knot. When a dog mounts a bitch the penis is not at full size. Once inside the vaginal canal (age and experience apply here) the dog will put the unengorged bulbous glands into her vaginal canal and past her pubic bone before it swells, engorged with blood to it’s size, the section of penis behind the knot remains outside the pubic bone retains about it’s original slim size. So the knot is not what the size comparison you need, it’s the shaft. If the knot forms outside the vaginal canal it usually will not fit unless there is a significant size difference.

AT WHAT AGE CAN A DOG HAVE INTERCOURSE?

After two years is the best recommended time before vaginal intercourse. A dog will continue to grow and develop for up to three years. A male dog is only a little less for human contact, at about 18 months he may show signs of actual sexual behavior. Do not mistake dominance or play humping as sexual behavior.

If you hurt or force yourself on a bitch she will fear you and live miserable and afraid. You are her protector and the one human in this world she needs to love her and take care of her because she deserves it, not because she gives it up or is a good sex toy.

ALL ABOUT, HER

The female canine body is as with most females, a work of art. The lovely triangular folds,.. but I have seen many questions. Where is the clit?

Well here is your answer. The clit is located between the vaginal opening and the clitoral fossa, these are your landmarks. You can feel them and see them and I like to taste them too.

Here is your road map of the intimate canine folds.
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LUBEING UP
What kind of lubrications can be used. A very important question as it affects your partner. Mainly. Water based type lube is recommended... DO NOT USE PETROLEUM PRODUCTS. Petroleum products such as baby oil or Vaseline are used to draw moisture out and away, so if used in sex, all the natural lubrication and moisture is drawn away. Meaning, it dries her out.

Some brands of sex lube are okay, avoid stimulating lubes as some dogs may have allergic reaction (try explaining that to the vet). Also avoid latex condoms with lube.

A Wiki to show a little more detail on what lubes are best and should not be used: https://zoophilia.wiki/index.php/Lubrication_During_Sexual_Intercourse
GOING IN


The canine vagina can be entered first at a 45 degree angle, and then you straighten out a bit and you can enter her vaginal canal. Do not mistake the clitoral fossa for the vaginal canal.

From top to bottom your bitch will have,

Vaginal opening
Clitoris
Clitoral fossa

The clitoral fossa is a dead end. But may confuse people

THE FIRST TIME

IF AT ANY POINT SHE SHOWS DISCOMFORT OR RESIGNATION, STOP.


If your girl has never had sex before, or is spayed/not menstruating and is her first time, Be gentle. Use a lot of lube and play with her nipples and vulva. Go farther slowly and stimulate her clit. Make circles around her nervious bud clockwise and then counterclockwise. Fondle her as much as you can to loosen her up as much as possible this way and tease her vaginal opening with your finger and or tongue. DO NOT use objects to “widen” her. If she can’t take you she can’t take you. Using a well lubricated index finger push into her opening. If she has a hymen it will feel like you are pushing against a wall with a spot in the middle. If you are not sure, make sure. You can use your pinky finger to press into the hole. It will feel like you have one of those rubber bands for braces on your finger.

If your girl was spayed, the possiblity of intercourse is slim to none. However, some have said they were able to succeed. This depends on many factors, such as how old they were spayed. Any former pregnecies, etc. We recommend not trying this unless you know the history, due to the possible injuries.

Lube up your pinky really well and press your finger into the hole and finger the little hole until you can get the first knuckle into it without much resistance. Again, if you encounter any pain or discomfort action from her stop immediately.

If she is comfortable press into her slowly stimulating her clit and doing other nice things as foreplay (ear nibbles and nuzzling worked for mine.) Give her breaks between fingerings and continue to larger fingers until you can get a good insert size.

ANAL SEX WITH BITCHES

Some bitches will let you do them analy. If this is the case never ever insert the penis (finger dildo etc.) into the vagina after it has been in the anus. This can cause infections to include bladder and vaginal infections.

Remember that canines have anal glands. These can be released when fearful. The insertion of the penis or finger may also cause the release of the glands. Stimulating the anus in any way can eventually cause the release of the anal glands. In personal experience I fondled my bitchs’ sphincter along the outside and rimmed her with my fingers lightly, just teasing her, never penetrating and it caused her to express her glands.

The other thing is you want to be careful to not damage the glands. Most of the mess from anal intercourse with dogs is the anal glands which are quite potent smelling. Make sure before you give your lover a wanted anal session you sniff her out and make sure she smells healthy. If there is an unusual scent, or an infection scent take her to the vet. Anal glands can get impacted and infected, the vet can relieve this.

Scooting is often a sign of anal gland impaction and should be brought to the notice of the vet. Often a higher fiber diet is in order. Libbys’ canned pumpkin, one tablespoon a day will often keep her regular and help prevent anal gland impaction, but will not release already impacted glands. Some breeds are more prone to infection than others.

I LOVE HER, BUT SHE’S TOO SMALL

Remember the rule of comfort, if she is not comfortable, stop.

Love holds no bounds and when one is too small for the desired affect of physical contact there are always options.

Hotdog hotdoging is quite simple and pleasurable to both if warranted. Hotdoging is quite simply putting the length of your penis along the slit of her vulva and stroking along her folds. This will stimulate the clit and is quite arousing even fun for bitches that can take you, and can be used as foreplay.

This can be done in both missionary and doggie style with success. The advantage to hotdogging is you are stimulating her clit and vulva more than actually penetrating her would do.

Fingering Fingering is another method of being intimate that can fill a need in pleasure. You can hold her close to you, both of you laying down, it works best if her back is to your belly, and just fondle her vulva and stroke her clit. The best way I have found to fingering my bitches is to have a lubed finger or if she’s wet enough it’s fine. Stick your finger to the top of her clit and then slip off to the side of her bead and make a circle around it clockwise. My bitches usually jerk and stretch a lot, and as I feel them starting to relax again I go counterclockwise.

You do not have to press hard, as a matter of fact if you can do it lightly you get more reaction. Once she relaxes again change direction and for the finally take two fingers and even out your fingertips and stroke over her clit softly but firm let it slip through the V made by your fingertips. Start slow and work fast, then go back into circles and your girl should be tossing her head and squirming by now and her clit should look very large.

CANINE ORAL FOR HER

Yes you can give her fun and I suggest the sweet sweet taste of canine cunny. But again, some bitches do not like oral. If she is uncomfortable, stop.

Yes, you can give oral in heat, yes you can give oral to spayed/between heats bitches.

How to start. I suggest trying it as she is standing first. See how she takes to it. If she seems interested you may continue or try it on her back. Do not try a 69 the first time on her back, the new position may scare her if she is not used to it and she will be curious what you are doing. Let her lean up and sniff you out as you begin to lap at her vulva. But move her out of the way if she laps at her own vulva after watching what she is doing and lap her where she indicated. This will show her she can direct you, after a few times she will learn, or at least mine did.

The pointed tip of her vulva is an excellent point to lick into as it’s closest to the clitoris. Slit licking is fine but for some reason if you broaden your tongue while in her folds and just wiggle your flat tongue over her clit she goes nuts.

WHAT IS SHE TELLING ME?

No one knows your bitch better than you. You know her reactions to pain pleasure or fear. If you do not know how to communicate with your mate/lover you have no business asking for sex.

Canine language is complex but simple to those who live around animals. This will help you understand why your girl does what she does. Tail flagging (moving the tail out of the way of her genitals and looking over her shoulder) is obvious for “take me stud” but what about getting to that point?

To understand if she wants you it is simple. In a safe place, where you feel safe and she does too, get undressed and let her explore you at her descression, don’t just start flopping your equipment in her face or fingering her. Sit still and see if she takes notice of you, if she seems distracted she may not be comfortable, just let her get used to her area, but if she runs to you and away play with her nonsexually. Roughhouse and give her your full undivided attention, pull rope toys or whatever she enjoys. Then as she wears down, on all fours, sniff her nose and her shoulder, to her tailbace on the top, then sniff at her vulva.

Here she will decide what to do next, she may whip around and growl, sit down or try to play some more. Don’t be frustrated, she may not want anything more than a platonic relationship. Even her cycle will not cause her to accept you if she doesn’t want you. Don’t hurt her or abandon her if she rejects you sexually. Just love her as she wants.

On the other paw if she decides that she wants to take the relationship further she will be still or sniff lightly at you and perhaps even lick you. Reciprocate by licking her vulva or touching her softly, don’t stick anything in her yet. Put an arm around her shoulder and pull up on over her back and mount her. If she is still or flags you can continue accordingly.


MEDICAL

Some explanations will not be the full explanation for the sake of time and interest but if it is a constantly asked question I will by all means expand on the reason or process of the questioned action or cause/result.

if your mate has a problem and it really concerns you, be safer than sorry and visit your Vet. Your Veterinarian wants you to have a healthy and happy pet/companion/lover as much and sometimes more then you do. But please take into account that unlike a human hospital, a veterinary hospital is not underwritten, and money lost directly affects them. They will work with you on budgets, or you can find one that will.

There are a lot of charities around that will also help you to include shot clinics and cheep spay neuter clinics.

These topics really concerned me as I read the question and got the feedback from people. I will try to make this simple to follow and easy to find what you are looking for by scrolling down. Questions can be posted and answered as best available. Some may refer you back to the main text. All answers are directed to guide human sexual contact. This is not a dog breeding guide.

WHAT IS THE AVERAGE K-9 LIFESPAN

Taking into account proper medical care, love and food and breeding:

Small breed 14-21 yrs
Medium breed 14-18 yrs
Large breed 12-16 yrs
Giant breed 9-12 yrs

This will not cover every case and is only an average of ages. There will be exceptions.

HORMONES AND HEAT

An intact bitch between heats and a spayed bitch will have the same hormone levels. Estrogen in particular was brought up. Estrogen is produced in more than the ovaries. When the ovaries are removed the estrogen levels will remain the same. Estrogen deficiency will be marked by incontinence and or bed wetting. The valve at the bladder is estrogen controlled. So as there is less estrogen, bladder control becomes an issue and can be treated by your veterinarian.

Progesterone is the main hormone for heats, it prepares the bitch for breeding and pregnancy. It sets the time for ovulation and thus optimal breeding times. This is the primary hormone that will cause heats, not estrogen.

Pyomietrea,

Pyometra is always fatal if untreated

This is a deadly condition commonly seen in unsprayed bitches and cases where the uterus was not removed but the ovaries were (mostly in Europe). If you live in Europe you will need to ask if the vet will remove the uterine horns as well to avoid this.
Your sperm can cause pyometra because its job is to enter the uterus, then it dies and can cause infection.

My dog is always in heat, she never stops

This is bad, very bad
. This means that there is a problem with her ovaries, most likely cancer benign or malignant may apply, but a problem of some sort has cause hormonal imbalance and will cause your bitch to toxify and die.


Are there any canine STDs?

Yes, brucellosis.

This is a bacterial disease that can be transmitted from animals to humans and humans to animals. It is form touching vaginal secretions, afterbirth or from the male mucus or ejaculate. Once infected it is very difficult to get rid of but is treatable. There will be side effects however.

This will cause abortions or miscarriages and infertility. It also affects the joints and other body systems.

Is it possible to have sex with a spayed bitch? (Feel free to see the rest of the conversation about this subject by scrolling down to the replies)
You are not going to have much luck with a bitch that has been spayed as a puppy because her sex organs will never fully develop. Vets say they can spay as early as 8 weeks old. If you are going to spay to prevent unwanted puppies and/or potential health problems, it's recommended you wait until after her second heat (and possibly even after she's had sex) to have the procedure done. Otherwise, it's going to be very challenging (if even possible) for her to be accepting and able to have intercourse.

 
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Thanks for posting this doglover101.

I'm more experienced with mares than dogs, but I really love canines, and am seriously considering getting a bitch. It's always been a dream of mine to experience the joys of canine companionship and have a nice furry cuddle buddy to warm my bed on those cold winter nights.

Just curious though if bitches are receptive to sex outside their heat cycle. I've been fortunate to have marefriends who enjoy sex year round and outside their estrus cycles, but every one is an individual and is not always interested. I imagine it's the same with canines, but not sure to what extent.

Can you tell me what to expect as far as receptivity?
 
Thanks for posting this doglover101.

I'm more experienced with mares than dogs, but I really love canines, and am seriously considering getting a bitch. It's always been a dream of mine to experience the joys of canine companionship and have a nice furry cuddle buddy to warm my bed on those cold winter nights.

Just curious though if bitches are receptive to sex outside their heat cycle. I've been fortunate to have marefriends who enjoy sex year round and outside their estrus cycles, but every one is an individual and is not always interested. I imagine it's the same with canines, but not sure to what extent.

Can you tell me what to expect as far as receptivity?
It depends on the individual as to their preference for sex out of heat, and whether they prefer vaginal or anal.
there is really no specific breed based determination, though using breed personality typing can somewhat improve the odds. To that end, working dogs, especially LGD's have a somewhat greater chance of being receptive, than typical ''pet'' breeds.
 
@dogluver101
Thank you posting this; it's one of the best I've seen.
I initially read and liked it some time ago, but there isn't much in it I didn't already know.

I'm not sure if you or anybody else here can speak to this, but I have seen a few threads around the board saying you can have sex with spayed bitches, and I think there may need to be more clarification around this.

PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong here, because I am not an expert in the effects of spaying puppies and this comes from personal experience only.
You are not going to have much luck with a bitch that has been spayed as a puppy because her sex organs will never fully develop. Vets say they can spay as early as 8 weeks old. If you are going to spay to prevent unwanted puppies and/or potential health problems, it's recommended you wait until after her second heat (and possibly even after she's had sex) to have the procedure done. Otherwise, it's going to be very challenging (if even possible) for her to be accepting and able to have intercourse.

Personal experience: When I was young and first realizing my sexuality, the fact that our family dog was female really became of-note to me, but she had been spayed at 12 weeks old. She was a large enough dog (Doberman+Lab mix), and she was around 6 years old when I first tried to finger her. I could not get my pinky finger into her vagina past the first knuckle, it was simply too restrictive. I even tried on a few occasions to see if I could gently expand her, but still could never get past that first knuckle, and when attempting to do so I could tell it was causing her discomfort (and even saw some specks of blood on my last attempt). She obviously trusted/loved me because she allowed me to try, but I also loved her and was not going to force it because I didn't want to hurt her.
In fact, I have used the "pinky test" to see if a full-grown girl is spayed or not (if there is no obvious scar), and found pretty much the same: way too unyieldingly tight for a full pinky.
With adult, intact bitches it seems fairly easy to gently insert a pinky or index finger all the way whether she is in-heat or not (again, just from my personal experience).
 
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@dogluver101
Thank you posting this; it's one of the best I've seen.
I initially read and liked it some time ago, but there isn't much in it I didn't already know.

I'm not sure if you or anybody else here can speak to this, but I have seen a few threads around the board saying you can have sex with spayed bitches, and I think there may need to be more clarification around this.

PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong here, because I am not an expert in the effects of spaying puppies and this comes from personal experience only.
You are not going to have much luck with a bitch that has been spayed as a puppy because her sex organs will never fully develop. Vets say they can spay as early as 8 weeks old. If you are going to spay to prevent unwanted puppies and/or potential health problems, it's recommended you wait until after her second heat (and possibly even after she's had sex) to have the procedure done. Otherwise, it's going to be very challenging (if even possible) for her to be accepting and able to have intercourse.

Personal experience: When I was young and first realizing my sexuality, the fact that our family dog was female really became of-note to me, but she had been spayed at 12 weeks old. She was a large enough dog (Doberman+Lab mix), and she was around 6 years old when I first tried to finger her. I could not get my pinky finger into her vagina past the first knuckle, it was simply too restrictive. I even tried on a few occasions to see if I could gently expand her, but still could never get past that first knuckle, and when attempting to do so I could tell it was causing her discomfort (and even saw some specks of blood on my last attempt). She obviously trusted/loved me because she allowed me to try, but I also loved her and was not going to force it because I didn't want to hurt her.
In fact, I have used the "pinky test" to see if a full-grown girl is spayed or not (if there is no obvious scar), and found pretty much the same: way too unyieldingly tight for a full pinky.
With adult, intact bitches it seems fairly easy to gently insert a pinky or index finger all the way whether she is in-heat or not (again, just from my personal experience).
You're not wrong. In my experience, I had a lab mix that was spayed around her second or thrid year. I've had some fun with her before she was spayed, and you can certainly tell the difference (even by just looking at her vulva) how tight they can be. I was able to get two fingers in with some more stretching. Was able to penetrate her but just waiting a week after doing that. There was no more penetration.

I wouldn't even recommend having sex with a spayed bitch. Even though I've done it. That was after many times of love making before, and mostly luck I guess I can say after waiting a couple of months after the spay.
I'll update the guide a little bit for this.
 
The best one word description I can think of is "explosive". Bitch orgasms tend to be hard on the room they're in. You won't have any trouble recognizing it.
Lol thanks bub, How different are they from a woman? Is their body temp higher like a studs too? Will she tighten like a woman as well?
 
Okay I need to understand something.

I've got my girl who I've done some play with but we don't do intercourse because she's too small. At least I think she is. My question is about behavior and anatomy.

I've seen the chart at the top of this thread and it doesn't seem to match the inside of my girl. I can insert a finger pretty easily for 2 or 3 inches but then I run into what appears to be a really tight spot. There seems to be space on the other side of this spot but I cannot tell if this leads to the rest of the vagina or if it's the cervix. Obviously if it's the cervix I shouldn't be pushing past it and the vagina is a LOT shorter than I was thinking. But if this is not the cervix, what is it? And why does she change her behavior entirely if I push on it?

Behavior:
My bitch is 2 years old. We started touching when she was a little over a year old. She enjoys rubbing and seems to be okay with me exploring with my tongue. Her favorite is to stand and park her butt where I can reach it. I'll put my fingers under and give the cookie a good solid rubbing which she will respond by happily humping my hand for a bit and then spinning around a couple times only to ask for it again. To me, this translates to "consent".

What I do not understand is the change when I push in to this really tight spot. Very suddenly, she will act uncomfortable and try to get away. She'll hike a back leg up in the air and try to slip herself off my finger. But here's the really strange part... Immediately after this, she does the happy dance. She'll chase her tail several times and do laps around the house. She'll then park her butt by my hand again, asking for more.

So which is it?? Does she like it or doesn't she? I'm so confused. She very obviously tries to get away if I push into the tight spot and then proceeds to tell me how much she loved it. But why not just let me push further in? And why act like it's hurting her if she's loving it? I have no idea how to interpret these mixed signals.

Further data:
She's a saluki, which is known for being aloof and not quite like 'normal' breeds. Her temperament is very steady and cat-like. She isn't bouncy, doesn't play like normal dogs and is extremely submissive when it comes to things like food or being told 'no'. Also, despite being 2 years old, she has not gone into heat yet. I have no idea whether this factors into the situation, but it might.

Since she seems to be too small for me to mate with, I am looking into other breeds as a second dog. My saluki really could use the company of another dog I'm sure, and I'd like to get one which is more extroverted. My current favorite I am researching is the Siberian Husky, which I know for sure is big enough to mate with as I have seen many videos. If I do end up getting one, I will want to make sure I don't make any mistakes with her that would reduce our chances of intimate success.
 
@Ebonstar
I don't want to insult your knowledge of your own dog, but are you quite certain she's intact (hasn't been spayed)? What you describe hints at a spayed girl, especially if she's 2 and hasn't ever had a heat. Doesn't mean she wouldn't enjoy what you do with her up until hitting the uncomfortable "tight spot".
 
@Ebonstar
I don't want to insult your knowledge of your own dog, but are you quite certain she's intact (hasn't been spayed)? What you describe hints at a spayed girl, especially if she's 2 and hasn't ever had a heat. Doesn't mean she wouldn't enjoy what you do with her up until hitting the uncomfortable "tight spot".

Yeah she's intact. Got her from a local reputable breeder and I've been back several times since. We've had several nice long talks about the breed and about my dog in particular. He said that salukis are known for not going into season until they feel like they are ready for it. This is an extremely old breed going back thousands of years, so they aren't like typical dogs who go into heat early.

I remember one of the very first things he told me was to not let a vet talk me into getting her spayed. There's no reason for it and it's expensive as well as risky for the dog. Additionally I bought her when she was only 5 months old and there was never any scar where the spay takes place.

I'm still very much wanting to know what this tight spot is. I'm guessing not a hymen. Though it feels like a membrane with a hole in it that is maybe 5mm wide that doesn't stretch. That's not what it would feel like if it was just her clenching, would it? Or maybe this is simply because she hasn't been in season yet?
 
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2 years is unnatural, find a breeder-friendly vet and bring it up as reproductive help. there is a treatment called PG600 which will solve the problem assuming some other underlying condition is not the problem. (ovarian cyst, etc) in either case getting the issue properly diagnosed and treated (a once in a lifetime treatment in the case of pg600) is important to keeping her healthy. you may need to go out of state depending on where you live, but breeder friendly vets do still exist.
 
heh. Out of state might as well be out of country. I'm not sure if it's a big deal or not since my breeder said salukis often don't go into heat until 3 years of age. I'm more concerned with the behavior weirdness I stated earlier where she acts uncomfortable when I push against the tight spot but then immediately gets excited and acts like it was the best thing in the world.
 
Okay I need to understand something.

I've got my girl who I've done some play with but we don't do intercourse because she's too small. At least I think she is. My question is about behavior and anatomy.

I've seen the chart at the top of this thread and it doesn't seem to match the inside of my girl. I can insert a finger pretty easily for 2 or 3 inches but then I run into what appears to be a really tight spot. There seems to be space on the other side of this spot but I cannot tell if this leads to the rest of the vagina or if it's the cervix. Obviously if it's the cervix I shouldn't be pushing past it and the vagina is a LOT shorter than I was thinking. But if this is not the cervix, what is it? And why does she change her behavior entirely if I push on it?

Behavior:
My bitch is 2 years old. We started touching when she was a little over a year old. She enjoys rubbing and seems to be okay with me exploring with my tongue. Her favorite is to stand and park her butt where I can reach it. I'll put my fingers under and give the cookie a good solid rubbing which she will respond by happily humping my hand for a bit and then spinning around a couple times only to ask for it again. To me, this translates to "consent".

What I do not understand is the change when I push in to this really tight spot. Very suddenly, she will act uncomfortable and try to get away. She'll hike a back leg up in the air and try to slip herself off my finger. But here's the really strange part... Immediately after this, she does the happy dance. She'll chase her tail several times and do laps around the house. She'll then park her butt by my hand again, asking for more.

So which is it?? Does she like it or doesn't she? I'm so confused. She very obviously tries to get away if I push into the tight spot and then proceeds to tell me how much she loved it. But why not just let me push further in? And why act like it's hurting her if she's loving it? I have no idea how to interpret these mixed signals.

It's the end of the vestibule and entrance to her vagina, not all dogs will have an obvious hymen, I've had 2 that had a septate hymen (kind of like a small fibrous strand coming across, from top to bottom at the center), mother and daughter, so I'm betting it's an inherited trait. My latest didn't have an obvious hymen, but I did have to stretch her out with my fingers over time (took a few months to finally get to the point where I would comfortably fit), and made it part of our foreplay, otherwise she'd be uncomfortable with my size when we got that far.

My guess is she's enjoying it until it causes her discomfort. My suggestion would be to wait for her to go into heat before you go any further in, or go slowly and use plenty of lube, let her move at her own pace. Even so, considering her build, you're probably not going to be able to get more than a couple of fingers in her, if that.
 
right. I really appreciate your reply because I've been wondering if this is a hymen or a cervix for a long time. It definitely feels like there's an open space behind the tight spot. And the tight spot is just wide enough to maybe fit the rounded part of my little finger in but not the nail, if you get my meaning. It does feel like a thin membrane but I'm scared to actually push past it to break it because the last thing I want is to make her afraid of this. Which, I might add, might already be too late since just pushing on it a few times has already made her uncomfortable.

But because she always acts so happy afterward, one thought I had was that maybe it's just too intense. You know how sometimes pleasure stimulation can be so intense you gotta pull away? Maybe it's like that. But I'm guessing not and that it actually hurts. But then why does she ask for more??

I think your advice to wait until her first heat is probably for the best. From what I know about bitch heat (very little) a bitch wants sex so badly that they're willing to put up with discomfort because they are so damn horny. And this would be the best time to break through that hymen and just get her used to full finger insertions.

As for working up to penis size, I actually have a high quality set of silicone dilators for working her up to larger diameters. These are very soft material and the smallest one I had no trouble fully inserting. There are five in the set, and the biggest one is still smaller than me but if there were a sixth that would be about my size.

I know dilators work because someone in this community has a dog whose build is almost identical to mine and he's able to fully rut her. He said he had to work with progressively larger toys over a period of time to get her up to it, but vaginas do definitely stretch if you exercise them.

If nothing else, I do plan on hopefully getting a Husky, and I'm fairly confident I'd fit in one of those, if the videos I've seen are anything to go by.
 
I've seen the chart at the top of this thread and it doesn't seem to match the inside of my girl. I can insert a finger pretty easily for 2 or 3 inches but then I run into what appears to be a really tight spot.
I am surprised that there are so few such questions. In the russian community, this question is one of the most popular, as well as related misconceptions. =)
It's the end of the vestibule and entrance to her vagina
This is the only correct reference in this thread regarding the question.
And so, our reality is that not one of the schemes published in textbooks, and from there to resources like this, does not reflect the nuances of the structure of the reproductive tract. Anatomical atlases are slightly better in this regard. I could publish a pdf file here, but the resource will not have copyright issues?
What the author describes is really a transition mechanism between the end of the vestibule and the body of the vagina.
Transverse dorsal fold, densification of predominantly connective tissue. The reproductive tract at this point forms a fracture. It is believed that the fold additionally isolates the body of the vagina from external influences, but talking about the reasons for its formation is a long discussion.
or if it's the cervix.
Not. It should be remembered, palpation of the cervix is possible only in super miniature breeds, in the likeness of Yorkshire terriers, and similar to them. In the rest you will not find it, on palpation, and you will not penetrate through it with a member. Even an incomparably larger member, when mating dogs, the cervix will not penetrate through the cervix. An anotomic fold will not allow this to happen.
I will attach several photographs, including dissection photographs.
I hope that very sensitive individuals will not experience shock.
In the first picture, the transverse dorsal fold is indicated by an oval. In small print there are comments in Russian. Sorry, I’m not comfortable cleaning them. The last two images reflect the front view of the crease through the mirror of Cusco. I hope your nervous system has not experienced shocks. =)
 

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Cumming in a bitch's uterus during heat has low chances of contracting a pyometra because it's prepared for that. The bitch I was with before was too tight out of heat but my current one can fit two fingers easily out of heat. What would happen if I came in her while she's out of heat?

also, my local sex shop hired a feminist and she absolutely refuses to attend me. I went to buy lube the other day and she told me to fuck off for basically being male. Would coconut oil affect her vagina negatively? I'm aware of not using petroleum or silicone in a bitch's vagina but coconut oil is vegetable and according to human medicine, it's sometimes benign to have it in their vaginas especially with a yeast infection but no negative effects were recorded. Obviously I'm talking about neutral, pure oil. No additives. People use it for anal sex, I personally bought it for my tail

dank

edit: She voluntarily opens her legs when she wants action out of heat and lets me lick/insert fingers for a few minutes. Then she licks herself and closes her legs
 
What would happen if I came in her while she's out of heat?
It depends on the condition of the dog. Most likely it's okay, but there may be nuances. I did not understand too much what exactly was meant, sex outside the heat itself, or the development of pyometers due to ejaculation outside the heat?
Would coconut oil affect her vagina negatively?
Yes, the risk is quite large. Vegetable oils can transform into culture media. Any vegetable oil under certain conditions.
If you cannot buy a water-based lubricant,
You can use a water-based neutral ultrasonic gel. It is usually sold in all pharmacies, at least in my home country. Maybe in your country too. It has the identical base of water-based lubricants sold in sex shops, and is usually cheaper. It also has different gradations in viscosity.
 
It depends on the condition of the dog. Most likely it's okay, but there may be nuances. I did not understand too much what exactly was meant, sex outside the heat itself, or the development of pyometers due to ejaculation outside the heat?

Both, having sex outside of the heat itself and the development of pyometers caused by ejaculation inside while not being in heat.

Yes, the risk is quite large. Vegetable oils can transform into culture media. Any vegetable oil under certain conditions.
If you cannot buy a water-based lubricant,
You can use a water-based neutral ultrasonic gel. It is usually sold in all pharmacies, at least in my home country. Maybe in your country too. It has the identical base of water-based lubricants sold in sex shops, and is usually cheaper. It also has different gradations in viscosity.
Shit, I'll have to go to the capital then. That's the second closest shop I have
 
The dog itself is a healthy soon-to-be three yearold. Pretty athletic and overall in good shape
 
Sex outside the heat is possible and does not cause problems if the bitch is healthy, sufficiently excited, and agrees. Arousing and reaching her consent is much more difficult than in the heat, but it is possible. And regularly enough. A certain balance must be maintained, which is individual for each dog, but more than possible.
Regarding the seed eruption into it, problems usually also do not arise, but with the slightest suspicion of an imbalance in the vaginal environment, this should be stopped.
the signals may be primarily the smell and even the smallest vaginal discharge. If you have the slightest doubt about this parameter, it is better to be safe and place your seed out.
 
For my bitch, out of heat, on average, I found a balance, 1 sex in two weeks. But it is individual, many young bitches can much more often. Individual correction is also required. But considering that my bitch is 11 years old, we found this balance optimal.
 
Yes, the risk is quite large. Vegetable oils can transform into culture media. Any vegetable oil under certain conditions.
If you cannot buy a water-based lubricant,
You can use a water-based neutral ultrasonic gel. It is usually sold in all pharmacies, at least in my home country. Maybe in your country too. It has the identical base of water-based lubricants sold in sex shops, and is usually cheaper. It also has different gradations in viscosity.
I managed to get KY Gel
Water, glycerin hydroxyethylcellulose, gluconolactone, methylparaben, sodium hydroxide, chlorhexidine digluconate

The box says fraganceless and avoids dryness in intimate areas. Usable for any kind of preservative.

Nowhere does it say it's pH is neutral though. Would this work?
 
Yes it will be. Ph is neutral. We checked it, though for a long time. 7-7.8. It's hard to found in the CIS countries now. But overall it is a suitable lubricant.
 
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