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Wonder what owners want?

Can't say what all of 'em WANT, but I can speak to the fact that most of us *DON'T* want desperate slack-jawed drooling horndogs constantly bombarding us with "Hey, can I fuck yer dog/horse/three-toed sloth/whatever???? I'M SO HORNY! I wanna fuck a dog!" type crap.
 
UR20Z said:
Can't say what all of 'em WANT, but I can speak to the fact that most of us *DON'T* want desperate slack-jawed drooling horndogs constantly bombarding us with "Hey, can I fuck yer dog/horse/three-toed sloth/whatever???? I'M SO HORNY! I wanna fuck a dog!" type crap.
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Your views are purely opinionated drivel.
 
Seems a lot if people on here want to discredit a lot of owners who don’t have sexual relations with their dogs personally. I let both of my dogs lick my cock as often as they would like to I also give them hand jobs when they show they want one but I don’t fuck them and they don’t fuck me. My dogs are my world we do everything together they are part of my life and considering me a thirsty guy because I enjoy watching them fuck women is pretty bold assumption I think. I require no lady they are with to do anything for me in return. Do I require a long relationship of building a lot of trust and getting to know each other and actually getting along yes. My dogs are much more than a sexual object to me and I don’t think it’s wrong that I’m not into fucking them. Ultimately the goal for me would be to find a lady that I get along with and can share this life with but that’s not that easy to do as there’s much more to a relationship than just fucking dogs
 
This has been an enlightening thread. I’ve not had a experience with any animals, as of yet. I’m very curious, and hope to meet someone willing to share, but, I don’t want it to feel like they are pimping their pets. I want it to be more in lines with sharing the experience, with mutual understanding and trust. If a friendship develops, that would be cool, but I’m not looking for besties or a relationship. So it makes the process long, as I’m sure I seem flaky, because I’ve had people come across in the yucky kinda way.

Unfortunately due to my lifestyle, I travel frequently, I would not be a good owner. I’m also a slut, which means I’d probably fuck the owner and everyone watching if they wanted to join.
 
At one time I actually felt sorry for people that could not have horses and animals like that but that has been many years ago.
From the people that I have invited over one raped and killed one of my dogs, numerous ones have stolen stuff from me, one of them caused my Mastiff to get pyometra, one of them used to like to take used toilet paper and shove it behind the toilet instead of flushing it, and not a fucking one of them has ever offered to help me out in the barn.
So what do owners want me personally absolutely nothing because I don't want people at my farm because of people like the ones I've already met.
And yes I know I'm going to hear from other people going I'm different I'm not that way I want to do this I want to learn about the animals I want to help around there and I can guarantee you that most of them are liars.
I have actually have messages from people on here that go all I want is dog pussy and I don't care about you at all.
No I grant you there's probably one or two people on this site that are actually looking for something that actually have honorable intentions but I'm not going to put myself my animals my farm up for risk because of all the other shit heads on here.
 
Daedalus said:
There is also those of us on another plane entirely: we who own farms and need a ranch hand to help keep up with all the chores. I've done it alone for close to a decade now, and only lately have I begun learning a hard lesson that this will be unsustainable if I keep on the way I'm going. From clearing and fencing acreage, to pouring concrete and welding, to framing and roofing a house, to bottle feeding calves and raising up a pack of dogs, I've come a lot further in the last several years than most people ever could've gotten -- and I've done it entirely alone. An army of one. I'm often inundated with projects, things to build/fix out here plus farm chores on top of those. It'd be awful nice to strap on tools with a fellow handy zoo. Its tough working a job and one-manning a farm alone. Hell, its tough making ribald sex jokes all day to just the dogs or the wall I'm framing, har har. I should've started this place with someone years back instead of going it alone all this time. Nowadays I'd love to meet a friend good with his hands and with a construction background of his own, as a farm is no shortage of things needing attention. Living out here, owning land and animals, its a work/life balance all its own. Failing that, even just somebody with an aptitude for it, minus the tools and experience. Somebody interested in trades, who can follow along and learn what I can teach.

Unlikely as it is that I'll ever find that zoo, I'd take a tenant for the apartment I'm renovating half my house into. I'll be on the hunt for that sometime next year as well.

Agreed strongly with Pes, the men who use dogs as a means to a woman's pussy (and never have their own sex, with their own dogs) have no business calling themselves zoos. That shoe doesn't fit their foot. And I feel obligated to put this in, as Rexandme & Co often touch on this but haven't fully articulated it here (likely because they've already had to expound on it 100x elsewhere) : one recurring thorn we're irked by in the non-owner population is the perception that y'all have shirked the responsibilities of having an animal but still want to enjoy the fruits of it. To us, this comes off as nonowners wanting to have their cake and eat it too. A nonowner who finds someone willing to share, in effect, gets a windfall; all the perks without any of the drawbacks. If we share, you get casual relations with someone else's animal without having made the sacrifices, commitments, borne the struggles of ownership on your own. You get off free in so many ways, while we pay in risk and all the aforementioned to make (and keep) our ownerships reality. A nonowner has a fling and goes home back to his cozy fun carefree city life after a romp in the country with us and ours, while we're holding the bag, keeping up all the work that it takes to have this. That kind of easy-come, easy-go rubs a lot of us wrong. Nothing rankles an owner faster than the thirsty folks wanting something for nothing with an animal we're emotionally, financially, sacrificially invested in, a partner we wrapped and entwined our very lives with. Its simply not something you can understand til you've done it, like we have.

That said, it ain't all doom and gloom either. The thing can be done right, too. Friends can be made in good faith and in the correct way, as certain lines of yours read when I read between 'em. You're in the right headspace, or a better one than most anyway. You're open-minded in your approach and asking the right kind of question, thinking in some of the right ways. I used to host public, purely platonic M&Gs in Austin in the BF years, and I will again eventually. We'd go out for lunch or dinner as a small group and try to meet people we meshed well with. M&Gs (at least mine) were emphatically NOT about sex, period. I don't do swinger hookups or dog swaps or whatever the hell. That ain't me. I came up in this all the way back to the pre-BF era when it was Midnitecrow PLF and Bianca. Call me a greymuzzle, I've been around a long time. I've watched the empires rise and fall. I went off and did my own thing, got where I am alone. Now I'm on a search to make a genuine connection with a small group, close-knit, the way it used to be in the 90s back before BF, Snakething and the leaks, and all that nonsense.

M&Gs aren't about finding dogs to swap. They're about safely being social and rubbing elbows in a normal way with our own brethren. I've met a handful of zoos irl, and will continue taking the risk in sensible ways according to my system of best practices, because I'm ever-deterimined as some of you are to establish real community. But I didn't own land at the time, just had foster dogs (yes I moonlight in shelter work), and many of my attendees didn't own either, so sharing animals didn't even come up in our M&Gs. I'm still not sure how and when exactly I'll broach the sharing of mine now, but I posit that sharing isn't out of the question for someone who puts the time in becoming a good friend of yours, entirely on its own merit outside and beyond zoophilia. Sharing between two people who've invested in becoming good, close-knit friends by the more old-fashioned tried & true ways, like those described above, ie. having commonality, spending time working and playing (nonsexually) together, yes, it can be done. A real friend goes a long way bridging that gap between an owner and a non. Don't count on it, and it won't happen often. But it can flourish when the conditions are right between people who found friendship first, aligned the gears and meshed well in life off the forums.

So be prepared to factor in ordinary human commonality and compatibility, too. That's what all those thirsty throngs completely skip over. It looks as though it never even occurs to them to find a normal friend here first. Some need a refresher that the pool of potential friends is tiny. There aren't many of us the world over, so the chances two people who happen to be zoos will have anything else in common are that much slimmer. Zoos thrown together may find they have nothing else in common outside zoophilia, and a friendship cannot sustain on zoophilia alone. It goes nowhere, just peters out without ever having gotten off the ground. That one happens all the time. The two people have to like some of the same things, share some of the same background and life experiences. We each need some overlap outside of this to make a friend. That's where it begins.

So us owners can be looking for all sorts of things, but one thing is certain to all: trust is crucial. Being able to trust someone with your life, your life's work, your animal's lives, all of it -- the two of you are, in effect, putting your lives in each other's hands. Trust is key, and its no small thing to earn. So of course, yes, we tend to more readily trust fellow owners, for reasons that should be obvious: they've made the same sacrifices, same commitments, have everything of equal value to be lost. They bring the same thing to the table -- and it ain't just another knot to tie or mare pussy to eat: its two owners being able to approach on the same plane. We know all that zoophilia is, and all that it isn't. We're putting up the same collateral, taking the same plunge into a risk pool with our own kind. That isn't an understanding the non-owners can have. They haven't walked in the shoes yet, so they're not capable of approaching us on an equal plane.

Closing, my advice is to concentrate on making friends in the usual way first. A good first and second step are posting and PMs, respectively. Having a post history gives us an understanding who's who. Striking up threads with people in PMs is a great way to advance to the next step and delve into a person you find interesting, get to know each other. To explore the other's mind, to ask questions we're reluctant to on the public forum, to really understand who's at the other end. When you can walk away from that with the warm fuzzies, it progresses to M&Gs or 1:1 meetings irl. And with commonality and trust, friendship follows. There are no shortcuts. Or none safe and worth taking.
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Basically the same thing, Just looking for another serious zoo who wants to build some thing for them selfs and same time that helps me, I got property, got animals just don't have time, prob is most think off grid life style is just jerking off and fucking all day till they learn there is a shit load more to it than that they run off.
 
Gay couple and we’ve both been into zoo porn recently.
Would really like to take the next step.

How do you approach the subject with an owner.
 
Animallover said:
At one time I actually felt sorry for people that could not have horses and animals like that but that has been many years ago.
From the people that I have invited over one raped and killed one of my dogs, numerous ones have stolen stuff from me, one of them caused my Mastiff to get pyometra, one of them used to like to take used toilet paper and shove it behind the toilet instead of flushing it, and not a fucking one of them has ever offered to help me out in the barn.
So what do owners want me personally absolutely nothing because I don't want people at my farm because of people like the ones I've already met.
And yes I know I'm going to hear from other people going I'm different I'm not that way I want to do this I want to learn about the animals I want to help around there and I can guarantee you that most of them are liars.
I have actually have messages from people on here that go all I want is dog pussy and I don't care about you at all.
No I grant you there's probably one or two people on this site that are actually looking for something that actually have honorable intentions but I'm not going to put myself my animals my farm up for risk because of all the other shit heads on here.
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Ya there'd be a patch of extra green grass if some one did that to any my animals. perk of being so remote.

As for the rest 98% of my work is weeding out horny net trolls, in turn I rub their face in their own patheticnes.
 
I am a 56 year old guy and I have been wanting to try being knotted for a long time, I can't own a dog myself so would love to find someone who owns who would help me out, it's a difficult conversation to start with anyone so I was just wondering if there are any hints and tips to help me
Thanks
 
A few of the respondents here talk about "they aren't zoos", and I believe they are right, however this is not black and white.

In my own case, as an owner who also interacts with my dogs as pets and companions, when a submissive is given to them it is an extension of a power and "erotic humiliation" AND of trust (going three ways, between she and I, my dog and I, and she and the dog). I'm not a zoo, I have no romantic interest in my dogs, which is not to say I don't love them....as pets and dogs and sometimes as a sentient, respected tool to use with those under my hand. BTW, that's a LOT more than I care about most people.

As for those who want to submit and add being "used" by a big male dog, start out as being a good human being first, they kind of submissive that I find appealing second, and establish that this type of kink is one of several areas you'd like to explore. This would take a considerable amount of time and effort. I would never just invite someone over for a puppy screw and then they walk away. In my experience this is an "Advanced Kink" along the physical and emotional lines of "Flying", or possible TPE where the Master (because you are way past "Dom" at that point) takes total control AND total responsibility for another human being. There are also the feelings of the dog to consider, you are training/conditioning an act that a dog really won't "Naturally" do (or if they do in some edge case, not on command and not more than once). As the owner/master, I've invested time in training them...and if the dog doesn't have the aptitude or drive, he's just not given that role. Some are retrievers, some are smugglers, and some are fuckers (and some aren't). They ARE all good boys!

So don't expect casual. Don't expect to keep a deception going for long enough to submit to an Alpha Dog master in my house. However, do the work on yourself to know what you need, where you want to go, and keep that interest in self-knowledge going as you learn through experience and relationships. Basically, be a good submissive in a genuine way, and maybe we'll get there.
 
I am an owner and my companion and I have a very rich and rewarding relationship. That being said, I am here to share my experiences, reach out to people who are new and to be able to discuss my lifestyle. These are the things I cannot do in real.

I am not interested in ‘helping’ someone in real with thier 1st time or things like that. And i think that is ok. I am here to meet people, and to have virtual friendships/relationships and share this part of me.

Almost everyone I have talked to on here is A-OK with boundaries.

That doesn’t mean that one day i won’t meet someone who connects with me on a different level. Sweeps me off my feet and we meet in real. But that would be a special and unique situation.
 
I am a long time owner too and had my own enriching journey with my companion. The reason I joined this community is to discuss this part of my lifestyle and learn from other perhaps in the process. I have not been to freely discuss or so these things in real life, frankly I am not certain if I can do that without bias or freaking someone out. I am clear in my mind that my companion and me are entirely personal to me and my experience. There are many things and possibilities but I do not intend to the game of "If-when". Those situations will be dealt with when the time arrives.
 
TBH being a zoo can be so fucking lonely. I don't necessarily need to have a threesome with a dog or whatever. I just want someone to talk about with it. Maybe share some videos and just go like "wow thats hot, nice".

You can have great relationships with friends, family, even SO's and have a really rich life... But theres always that secret part of your life that you come to terms with it always being just that.

What, am I going to ruin my amazing life with maybe an amazing career, children, friends etc, just to meet up with someone online and potentially get exposed one way or another? Of course not. But man, is it tempting, ya know? Like a type of gamblers fallacy. Maybe the next person I meet is into zoo. Maybe this lifestyle isn't for me, maybe I'm a mental patient, maybe... Maybe dog dick is life and I am playing a character I don't even believe in, with this whole trying to be "normal" thing

Anyways, thats the spiral I'm sure some of us can relate to going through. Its usually at the horniest or lowest parts of that spiral where you consider meeting up with strangers online and fucking everything up.
 
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