DeerLover69
Lurker
It's kinda strange that's where the line is drawn for alot of furries, yet at the same time they will get the most hyper realistic drawling of a dog cock.
Why do furries hate so much on feral drawlings vs anthro?
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Goattobeloved
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
Cause it makes them look too much as pervert beasties, which, of course they are NOT.
If you ask me, there is much less "pervertion" in sneaking real animal dick photos than in actually studying them carefully enough to make an accurate detailed drawing of animal genitalia, no matter what character you stick it to, but that is just me LOL
If you ask me, there is much less "pervertion" in sneaking real animal dick photos than in actually studying them carefully enough to make an accurate detailed drawing of animal genitalia, no matter what character you stick it to, but that is just me LOL
Knottyboydog
Zooville Settler
Yeah they do that but them go off and shove a bad dragon replica dog cock in them and brag on twitter how they finally took the knot. Also from my time in the fandom I find most say they don't like that "type" of art but then favorite it on art sites.
FortuneFinder
Tourist
Personally I think it's projection and clout chasing. A lot of furries think that just because art imitates life that it automatically makes it real, it suddenly means they're into zoo. Which would be bad(had you for a second, didn't I? lol). That being said, most furries I've known who are strictly anti feral seem to equate it to be the same thing as zoo and while there is overlap it doesn't mean anything in my eyes. But then you have the people who are constantly crying out and sending mobs because that's what they want, they want to cause chaos and send hate mobs to tear people down for merely looking at art, all because they want to be the popular kids. Literally that's all it is. They want fame and fortune for being a crusader and not calling out the actual issues like zoosadists and actual fucking pedophiles. Truly amazing how morally corrupt these people are.
rockymountaindog
Citizen of Zooville
They just haven't come out of the closet yet lol
I love anthro on feral drawings, casin point, there's this one on e621 that I cream on all the time.
holy shit what a good pic
holy shit what a good pic
SloppyMare
Tourist
Never witnessed the hate about Feral x Furry. There are many artpieces of this sort. Many artists just aren’t comfortable fo draw this stuff, they also like to keep human dicks on all of their furry art. Nothing to judge them. They are just artists who make a (really good) living from their art. Forcing them to stick animal dicks on their art will result only in sub par art.
Of course there is a group of Furries who are chasing down and doxxing Zoophiles, but this is merely a minority. The people who get caught and doxxed are the ones who aren’t aware or just spew their ideology everywhere.
My personal opinion as a zoophilic Furry who has had experience with animals: keep it to yourself, don’t force the agenda on anyone, don’t tell anyone who you really are unless you are a 100% sure their mind is on the same wavelength as yours. 99% doesn’t count, you really have to be sure.
Of course there is a group of Furries who are chasing down and doxxing Zoophiles, but this is merely a minority. The people who get caught and doxxed are the ones who aren’t aware or just spew their ideology everywhere.
My personal opinion as a zoophilic Furry who has had experience with animals: keep it to yourself, don’t force the agenda on anyone, don’t tell anyone who you really are unless you are a 100% sure their mind is on the same wavelength as yours. 99% doesn’t count, you really have to be sure.
CookieSampler
Tourist
I think it is precisely the stigma of being associated with zoophiles from the get go. Most non-furries will look at furry porn and say: this is bestiality and they will die on that hill. No matter how many arguments you make to explain why furry ≠ bestiality.
I think most of the community has it difficult with this topic and thus they don't want to he associated with zoophiles. Even if the depictions are fictional. Most of the furries I know will scream heresy when you bring up feral. No matter if the feral in question can talk and basically tell his/her mate "fuck me"/"prepare your hole"...or whatever the feral says. Again, they don't want to be associated with something that has already made them lose friends and relationships because "normies" don't know the difference between an anthro wolf and a real wolf and they honestly don't care ("normies").
I think most of the community has it difficult with this topic and thus they don't want to he associated with zoophiles. Even if the depictions are fictional. Most of the furries I know will scream heresy when you bring up feral. No matter if the feral in question can talk and basically tell his/her mate "fuck me"/"prepare your hole"...or whatever the feral says. Again, they don't want to be associated with something that has already made them lose friends and relationships because "normies" don't know the difference between an anthro wolf and a real wolf and they honestly don't care ("normies").
CookieSampler
Tourist
I mean, not exclusive of furries alone tho. Tho the most of weird content I have seen come from "taurs" and futanari. Of course correlation is not causation.
Also, not to sound rude but that wasn't exactly the topic at hand
SloppyMare
Tourist
Yeah, also the equine section is riddled with the worst fetishes out there. Vore, gore, castration, superfat, hyper, macro, scat and piss, body odor. Literally makes me puke in my mouth everytime I am browsing through the newest submissions in the equine section, browsing through several pages to find maybe one or two acceptable images. Worst thing is there is no blacklist on Furaffinity too.
CookieSampler
Tourist
That's why I stick to e6. Most stuff is tagged or else it will be taken down in less than you can see it. Creating an acc to have a blacklist saved me time and the need to use bleach ?
T4Z
Tourist
This is without a doubt one of the best drawings on the entire page.
ShanoirII
Zooville Settler
I find those to be very funny.
It's like a chimaera, but instead of being 50/50, it is 97% of one species, and then only like 3% of another. like a hyena with a canine penis, or a lion with slitted pupils.
ShanoirII
Zooville Settler
To be honest, it's not so much the drawing of one species' genitalia on another species' body that bothers me, as it is the general attitude that often accompanies it.
I know I might be overreacting, but hear me out at least:
Usually, when someone feels the need to draw human genitalia on a feral character, the following miasma is usually employed in the back of their minds:
"Nearly all animals' bodies are inherently filthy and yucky.
The only animal with a pure and acceptable form is ? Humanity!!! ?
So, because all other animals' bodies are flawed and the way they naturally exist is not ok, I need to do them a favor by making them conform to Human standards, which is the objectively right standard, and always an improvement."
This right here is the attitude which annoys me. It seems like a passive insult directed toward all animals, due to humans passing judgment on their genital anatomy and ruling it inferior or vile. And I would prefer if animals were graced with a smidge more dignity than that, especially by the Furry community, which supposedly likes animals.
It's got nothing at all to do with "not getting the art I want", it's about the implicit disrespect of animals for simply existing in the beautiful way that they naturally do.
I know I might be overreacting, but hear me out at least:
Usually, when someone feels the need to draw human genitalia on a feral character, the following miasma is usually employed in the back of their minds:
"Nearly all animals' bodies are inherently filthy and yucky.
The only animal with a pure and acceptable form is ? Humanity!!! ?
So, because all other animals' bodies are flawed and the way they naturally exist is not ok, I need to do them a favor by making them conform to Human standards, which is the objectively right standard, and always an improvement."
This right here is the attitude which annoys me. It seems like a passive insult directed toward all animals, due to humans passing judgment on their genital anatomy and ruling it inferior or vile. And I would prefer if animals were graced with a smidge more dignity than that, especially by the Furry community, which supposedly likes animals.
It's got nothing at all to do with "not getting the art I want", it's about the implicit disrespect of animals for simply existing in the beautiful way that they naturally do.
CookieSampler
Tourist
This is something that while doesn't really get me mad, it does grind my gears a little bit. It's some sort of hypocrisy. Almost as if "It is okay to look at an animal's cock and be fucked by it" but when it is the females case it is wrong to show animal pussy because "bestiality" and whatever, even if the characters is anthro or something. Many a times I have been insulted by those who want a dog dildo just for saying I'd like a canine fleshlight.
SloppyMare
Tourist
Well, depends on where you look. Most anthro characters I stumble upon are clearly inspired by the animals they are leaned on. Sure, there are these weirdos with their human characters with cat ears or tails, but that’s a rather nieche in the furry fandom.
Furry in itself is the definition to anthropomize animals, ergo making them walk on two legs. Like these for example:
And there’s also the feral furry stuff, based on real animals, and also on mythical creatures or self made creatures like this:
Also you get some anthro on feral stuff:
And even human on ferals:
So yeah, the furry community is quite diverse as you see, and it is definitely not only „humans with tails“, it’s a whole spectrum. Also I never encountered any flaming or repercussions at any of the many artists who draw anatomically correct genitalia or even zoo stuff. Quite contrary, they often have clients who pay really good money for commissions. What I see here is complaining about self made problems, or just being in the wrong groups, especially the toxic ones where zoomer anti zoo propaganda is strong.
Or I just misinterpreted what you meant.
Also I don’t take into account the 90% of badly drawn trash by „weekend artists“ who can barely draw a straight line.
CookieSampler
Tourist
I might be wrong but I think ShepperdMutt meant "modern" furry art. A bit back then we really used to have creatures more prevalently animal with just the ability to talk, walk, and hold things (I think zootopia made a great job with this but that's not the point). It would seem that because of needing to disassociate from zoophilia so badly new art is more watered down in the animalistic sense. Of course, we have some artists that couldn't care less and continue drawing their way because that's what they know and they aren't going to change it for some hissy tantrums thrown here and there. If you are being insulted but still paid you learn to not give a fuck rather than following the flow.
If a part of the fandom I am in and I offer a service which is treated as heresy by that group I am amping my prices a little bit and people that want to see what got them in the fandom in the first place will of course pay more. (f I am using a fallacy, please forgive me (and show me where I made a mistake so I can learn) but it is like saying drugs aren't frowned upon because people is willing to pay an arm and a leg for them. Sure, drawing an anatomically correct pussy is nowhere near as ilegal and wrong (to the extent you want to see, it is not the point) as liking an animal pussy successfully slapped into an anthro character. But I digress.
I do think we might be associating with the wrong groups, that I don't deny and sometimes all it takes to make a group a bunch of hissy "holier than thou" brats are just between one and five of those people in a group to start spreading the view as an unchangeable truth. Seen it happen time and time again with chill groups and suddenly everyone was offended by a lurker posting a pic of a feral pokemon being rewarded by the trainer.
But hey, I admit this is just anecdotal evidence and again. I might be wrong because of exposure to the zoomer bullshitery.
PS: saving a couple of those pics
Edit: also, sorry for sticking my nose where nobody called. Had a little bit of free time and things like this are like my coffee. Anyways, take care!
Tifone
Tourist
I think most of what we can learn at this point is going to anecdotal. People rarely share their true feelings when presented with topics like this. Even though anonymity should make it easier to be yourself without fear. Sometimes I think it just emboldens people to bully and be ecochambers of a particular viewpoint. It seems like it's getting better but then again I tend to ignore comments on e621 now XD
CookieSampler
Tourist
Pretty much. Ah, e6 is kind of a lite twitter. Drama and disputes but with shorter reach
datjah121!
Tourist
I love all of it. What's not to like about any of it
ShanoirII
Zooville Settler
Some people feel like animals are disgusting, and if you draw them anatomically correctly in your pictures then you're a zoophile.
datjah121!
Tourist
If anyone thinks animals are disgusting. There's something wrong with them because if you are alive. You are an animal
datjah121!
Tourist
Unfortunately now days you have to avoid those people. Good fucking people, but they just don't get it.
Ausissy
Lurker
I think part of it for some furs is a public perception thing, I know some are trying to make the fandom "mainstream" and zoo is this dark stain on it, but just like kinks and murrsuits trying to snuff out that part to be more "family friendly" is pretty stupid it's not going to go away.
Hornydoggie69
Tourist
This is like a discussion old as time 
Furries by definition are zoophiles. They just don't want to be associated with the term.
They also think zoophiles are abusive sadistic assholes because of what they read on Twitter.
So instead of embracing a love for animals they reject it flat out, while galking at knots flares and canine pussy.
Most furries if approached in person after you know them for longer than a month or two would generally open up about how hot actual animals are etc.. most furries I know are ok with zoos at a personal level / offline but almost none would stand up for them online as its basically socialmedia "suicide" in furry circles.
There's a reason some of the most popular artists draw amazing animal genitals.
Furries by definition are zoophiles. They just don't want to be associated with the term.
They also think zoophiles are abusive sadistic assholes because of what they read on Twitter.
So instead of embracing a love for animals they reject it flat out, while galking at knots flares and canine pussy.
Most furries if approached in person after you know them for longer than a month or two would generally open up about how hot actual animals are etc.. most furries I know are ok with zoos at a personal level / offline but almost none would stand up for them online as its basically socialmedia "suicide" in furry circles.
There's a reason some of the most popular artists draw amazing animal genitals.
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Then there's the A-holes and Rogue groups in between trying to start fights, saying all kinds of nasty horrible things about both sides, when in reality, the only ones that are horrible and nasty are themselves.
I display neutrality towards zoophilia and furry in public so people like that don't try to start anything or instigate a fight. Oh and I'm a furry-zoo. Which makes it even harder for me cause I fit in both categories.
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Tbh... this sounds exactly like school society. You have the Jocks, and the Nerds, each like their own thing, then the outlying individuals who don't fit in either.
Then there's the A-holes and Rogue groups in between trying to start fights, saying all kinds of nasty horrible things about both sides, when in reality, the only ones that are horrible and nasty are themselves.
I display neutrality towards zoophilia and furry in public so people like that don't try to start anything or instigate a fight. Oh and I'm a furry-zoo. Which makes it even harder for me cause I fit in both categories.