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When the knot gets stuck in you, can you move freely, or does it instantly fall out?

A question like the one in the title: When the knot gets stuck in you, can you move freely, or does it instantly fall out? Some on this forum say that female anatomy is different from bitch anatomy and a male dog is not able to properly tie with human female. On the other hand, every pussy is different, every penis is different. Some women are anatomically tight. Others practice “pompoir” (suggest you look up that term on tiktok), which makes them able to do unbelievable things with their pussy including locking it onto the penis. The knots themselves also vary. Some are rounder and some are more developed sideways. There are also videos like the one from SquirtSquid (I don't know if I can post here), where you can clearly see that the woman, even without using her hands, is locked on the knot and by moving her pelvis, she also moves the canine. So how is it in your case?

I’d like to invite @allyfitz , who appears to be the leading proponent of the claim that the female anatomy is not matched with the canine one, to share her thoughts in this discussion.
 
Its not as much of an issue as it is wishful thinking. The entrance to a bitch's Vagina is fairly small. The muscle ring Pes mentioned is supposed to grab a dog Penis OUTBOARD of the knot, while its still relatively unexpanded, and hold it through the cycle of mating. A Human female is gifted with Kegels, which are similar, but they do not really do the same job. A human Penis is usually larger thru its entire length than a dogs is, EXCEPT for the knot section. Human Kegels' design takes that into consideration....they cannot grip a dog penis tightly enough to lock him in.
And....if she is in doubt about a knot being stuck, all she need do is drop her hips. Problem solved.
 
This is not a theory, the human vagina does not have the ring muscle that holds the knot in the canine vagina. Done, solved. That is how it is. :D
The human vagina has Kegel muscles that can perform the same function. Probably, by the way, they are exactly the same muscles, just arranged differently.

By writing this comment and not addressing the things I mentioned you are only showing ignorance 😀

Its not as much of an issue as it is wishful thinking. The entrance to a bitch's Vagina is fairly small. The muscle ring Pes mentioned is supposed to grab a dog Penis OUTBOARD of the knot, while its still relatively unexpanded, and hold it through the cycle of mating. A Human female is gifted with Kegels, which are similar, but they do not really do the same job. A human Penis is usually larger thru its entire length than a dogs is. Human Kegels' design takes that into consideration....they cannot grip a dog penis tightly enough to lock him in.
And....if she is in doubt about a knot being stuck, all she need do is drop her hips. Problem solved.

Just check SquirtSquid video and the phrase pompoir+locking+TikTok in Google before you write
 
Bud....you can check video alllllll day....and you will NEVER see anything but what the Videographer wants you to see. Couple this with your wishful brain and youll see you are simply fooling yourself. Artists and Photographers have made their living on that fact for multiple millennia....why do you think video is any different?

BTW, bubba....calling Pes, or myself Ignorant only reflects on you....badly. Obviously everything you know has come from pictures, moving or still....which means you know ZERO in the scheme of things.

And I wonder.....If Ally says the same thing, will you call her "Ignorant"?
 
Bud....you can check video alllllll day....and you will NEVER see anything but what the Videographer wants you to see. Couple this with your wishful brain and youll see you are simply fooling yourself. Artists and Photographers have made their living on that fact for multiple millennia....why do you think video is any different?

BTW, bubba....calling Pes, or myself Ignorant only reflects on you....badly. Obviously everything you know has come from pictures, moving or still....which means you know ZERO in the scheme of things.

And I wonder.....If Ally says the same thing, will you call her "Ignorant"?
Okay, you still haven't checked anything and continue to comment, so talking to you is pointless.
 
Dont need to check. Ive been there and DONE IT.....FOR SIXTY YEARS, little boy. Youre buying a fairy tale. Enjoy it.
I don't understand why you continue to comment? You assume that you know some things about me based on nothing You are not a person open to discussion. You have your established pattern in your head that cannot be changed. Find some other things to do
 
I don't understand why you continue to comment? You assume that you know some things about me based on nothing You are not a person open to discussion. You have your established pattern in your head that cannot be changed. Find some other things to do
No different than you, except that I know what Im talking about.
 
I don't understand why you continue to comment? You assume that you know some things about me based on nothing You are not a person open to discussion. You have your established pattern in your head that cannot be changed. Find some other things to do
Dude, the angry attitude destroys any respect or credibility you think you may have. Be nice. We are all in a minority group and should help each other. Throwing out insults when someone gives their opinion only comes off as immature and not worthy of consideration.
 
Dude, the angry attitude destroys any respect or credibility you think you may have. Be nice. We are all in a minority group and should help each other. Throwing out insults when someone gives their opinion only comes off as immature and not worthy of consideration.
In my opinion it is rude to comment without even bothering to check what I am referring to

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I hope the moderator won't delete this but if this isn't a tie, I don't know what is a tie
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In my opinion it is rude to comment without even bothering to check what I am referring to

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I hope the moderator won't delete this but if this isn't a tie, I don't know what is a tie
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That does not look like a tie at all, a proper tie in a canine specie lets the male turn around and be butt to butt for a long time (even when someone or something try to separate them by force), evolutionary it allows him to compete with other males as it is with well-known. In my opinion in the video is seen a big cock and knot that even comes out full size reinforcing the idea that it is impossible to "get stuck" if that's what we're really talking about.
 
The dog moves along with the movements of the woman's pelvis. His dick does not pop out freely when she moves. In my opinion, this meets the definition of being stuck in her vagina. Ideally, of course, the dog should be able to turn around, but this is not a necessary determinant.
 
I’d like to invite @allyfitz , who appears to be the leading proponent of the claim that the female anatomy is not matched with the canine one, to share her thoughts in this discussion.

"proponent of the claim".... you mean me stating basic facts about human anatomy?

As @pes said..
This is not a theory, the human vagina does not have the ring muscle that holds the knot in the canine vagina. Done, solved. That is how it is. :D


Like many people you see some thing in a video and then assume something else.
There are also videos like the one from SquirtSquid (I don't know if I can post here), where you can clearly see that the woman, even without using her hands, is locked on the knot and by moving her pelvis, she also moves the canine. So how is it in your case?

The other thing you'll notice in these videos is that they usually are close ups, which means you're also not seeing the person holding the dog steady from pulling out of the woman.

The human vagina has Kegel muscles that can perform the same function. Probably, by the way, they are exactly the same muscles, just arranged differently.
No... No... No.
Human Pelvic floor muscles do NOT perform the same function as a female canines sphincter muscle.

Probably, by the way, they are exactly the same muscles,
No they are most definitely not.

can perform the same function ... just arranged differently.
By being arranged differently they don't perform the same function. They apply tension in different directions.
Pelvic floor muscles apply tension laterally under the skin from anterior to posterior.
Sphincter muscles apply tension inward towards a cantral point.
Your butthole sphincter behaves differently than your bicept.


Depending on individual anatomical details of the dog and a woman, a dog can fully bury his knot inside a woman, and she can somewhat hold him. But if the dog puts any effort into it, he'll be able to pull out of a woman. Even if a woman works to strengthen her pelvic floor to be able to hold a knot a little better, it's only going to do so much, because tension on those muscles causes tautness perpendicular to the force that would be applied if a dog tried to pull out. Does it help a little... sure... will it help enough... no if the dog wants to pull out.

I've posted more here: https://www.zoovilleforum.net/threa...ated-on-december-27th-2024.23594/post-1093811

There is a big difference between the knot being inside a womans vagina and the dog being tied. If a dog doesn't move once he gets his knot inside... that doesn't mean that she's "knotted" or "tied". To be knotted or tied like a female dog means that the male dog can try to pull out of the female and he will not be able to. Thus the butt to butt arrangement you see mated dogs in. The male dog will lean and pull away from the female dog and he will be unable to pull out of her. This what people mean when they say "knotted". The male and female are stuck together.

This "being stuck together" is not possible for a human female and a male dog. If the dog wanted to he could rip himself out of any woman.
A dog being inside a woman and not trying to pull himself out is not the same as the two being "knotted" or "tied".


TL;DR. While it is possible in some cases for a woman to be able to apply mild tension against a dogs knot based on anatomical details of her own body and the dogs body, this is very much an edge case. Just because a small percentage can do it, does not mean that its normal or common.

The exception does not disprove the rule.

And even in these cases, she wont be able to hold him if he wants to pull himself out.
 
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Officially, this woman can lift and hold 14 kilograms, so she could do the same with a 14-kilogram dog.
 

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Human Pelvic floor muscles do NOT perform the same function as a female canines sphincter muscle.

Depending on individual anatomical details of the dog and a woman, a dog can fully bury his knot inside a woman, and she can somewhat hold him. But if the dog puts any effort into it, he'll be able to pull out of a woman. Even if a woman works to strengthen her pelvic floor to be able to hold a knot a little better, it's only going to do so much, because tension on those muscles causes tautness perpendicular to the force that would be applied if a dog tried to pull out. Does it help a little... sure... will it help enough... no if the dog wants to pull out.

I gave Thumbs Up because allyfitz explained everything well. I mentioned in other topic (different section) that knot between woman and doggie is possible but HE need to stay calm and don't move too much. My post was based on my own past experience with my GSD. I can only say that well trained Kegle muscles can be useful during knot/tie. But overall they are not important much, just useful.
The catch is - our doggy partner must learn specific routine. After humping, turning out and knotting he need to learn to not pull and stay still and calm. And breathe! Have You noticed? When doggies are on top of us, they have problems with breathing sometimes. This is most difdicult part!
Our anatomy is difderent than female dog anatomy, no doubt about it. Stories about "being stuck together" are just fairytales. Male dog can leave our bodies everytime he wants. It depend on us - women how long we can keep "connection". Safe position, safe place, conditions, paceful doggie behaviour and good attitude are most important.


In topic mentioned above is few good examples how should be done without problems.
 
Officially, this woman can lift and hold 14 kilograms, so she could do the same with a 14-kilogram dog.
Doesnt mean a thing in relation to the topic. Officially, whoever gave the measurements was not measuring for a knotted living squirming mutt. 30 pound anchor on a chain is not even remotely a living thing. How about we stop listening to fairy tales or trying to prove what doesn't exist lives under your beds?
 
Doesnt mean a thing in relation to the topic. Officially, whoever gave the measurements was not measuring for a knotted living squirming mutt. 30 pound anchor on a chain is not even remotely a living thing. How about we stop listening to fairy tales or trying to prove what doesn't exist lives under your beds?
You’re making statements without ever testing them with that woman and without considering how much force a 14 kg dog can actually apply on a slippery floor. You build the most convenient scenario in your mind for the dog, without realizing the same could be done for the woman. In the end, your comment sounds like someone explaining traction physics while warning about monsters under the bed. :ROFLMAO:
 
You’re making statements without ever testing them with that woman and without considering how much force a 14 kg dog can actually apply on a slippery floor. You build the most convenient scenario in your mind for the dog, without realizing the same could be done for the woman. In the end, your comment sounds like someone explaining traction physics while warning about monsters under the bed. :ROFLMAO:
If thats what YOU took from it, its not my problem, sonny...it's still yours. A thirty pound dog isnt getting much traction anywhere on ANY SURFACE. Dont think the woman matters much within the scenario.

But just for kicks, wheres the paperwork? Who conducted this
" experiment"? What qualifications? Who weighed the anchor? Who certified the results? Whatever lives under your bed is also not my problem....if your dad didn't kill it for you, well...youre a big boy now.

The point, since you did not get it, is this. It really doesnt matter what scenario you pick, the dog is not going to get stuck... You and all those who think it will obviously have a LOT of experience....watching videos....

You made a decision based on what you were given to see, by those who made money delivering what you wanted to see. Not my fault you were wrong, and remain wrong.

And btw....a thirty pound doggie will have a knot about the size of a walnut...Being tied is not likely for any normal female human.

Now, run go tell your mama shes calling you.
 
If thats what YOU took from it, its not my problem, sonny...it's still yours. A thirty pound dog isnt getting much traction anywhere on ANY SURFACE. Dont think the woman matters much within the scenario.

But just for kicks, wheres the paperwork? Who conducted this
" experiment"? What qualifications? Who weighed the anchor? Who certified the results? Whatever lives under your bed is also not my problem....if your dad didn't kill it for you, well...youre a big boy now.

The point, since you did not get it, is this. It really doesnt matter what scenario you pick, the dog is not going to get stuck... You and all those who think it will obviously have a LOT of experience....watching videos....

You made a decision based on what you were given to see, by those who made money delivering what you wanted to see. Not my fault you were wrong, and remain wrong.

And btw....a thirty pound doggie will have a knot about the size of a walnut...Being tied is not likely for any normal female human.

Now, run go tell your mama shes calling you.
"It genuinely makes no difference to me who lifts what, how, or with which technique — I honestly couldn’t care less. The simple fact is that Guinness World Records officially registered a 14 kg lift. From there, it’s obvious that holding something lighter — whether it’s a 3 kg, 10 kg, or 14 kg dog — wouldn’t be a problem. The idea that this needs to be turned into a dramatic debate about physics, paperwork, and bedtime monsters is both hilarious and a little sad. But if that’s the intellectual mountain you’ve chosen to die on, by all means — it’s been oddly entertaining watching you fumble through it."
 
"It genuinely makes no difference to me who lifts what, how, or with which technique — I honestly couldn’t care less. The simple fact is that Guinness World Records officially registered a 14 kg lift. From there, it’s obvious that holding something lighter — whether it’s a 3 kg, 10 kg, or 14 kg dog — wouldn’t be a problem. The idea that this needs to be turned into a dramatic debate about physics, paperwork, and bedtime monsters is both hilarious and a little sad. But if that’s the intellectual mountain you’ve chosen to die on, by all means — it’s been oddly entertaining watching you fumble through it."
Fumbling where? Glad you enjoy it, bud, but it doesn't much matter what the "lift" was. A stationary weight is not comparable to a living creature who does not want to be suspended head down. Why are you still here? There are lemons to be sucked right there in your neighborhood, instead of playing at comparing Apples and oranges.
 
Fumbling where? Glad you enjoy it, bud, but it doesn't much matter what the "lift" was. A stationary weight is not comparable to a living creature who does not want to be suspended head down. Why are you still here? There are lemons to be sucked right there in your neighborhood, instead of playing at comparing Apples and oranges.
I don’t care what you think can or can’t be compared — reality isn’t shaped by your personal rules. And about those lemons you mentioned, sounds like you’ve already been sucking on them for years, judging by that bitterness.
 
Do you really call them "kegels" muscles ? For women, I thought the closest muscle from the female canine ring was the bulbospongious...
There's no direct comparison.
You cant spell it in any case....and I'm not an anatomist.
Tell you what. Why don't you ask your Doctor, or your vet. See what they say, if they dont have you arrested.
 
I don’t care what you think can or can’t be compared — reality isn’t shaped by your personal rules. And about those lemons you mentioned, sounds like you’ve already been sucking on them for years, judging by that bitterness.
So why are you still at it, again? Youre still trying to compare two different things, bubba. Picking at me is not going to change this. I may sound bitter, in your opinion. Youre welcome to that opinion.But youre not entitled to your own "facts".
 
Где шаришь? Рад, что тебе понравилось, приятель, но не так уж важно, что именно было "подъемом". Неподвижный вес несопоставим с живым существом, которое не хочет быть подвешенным вниз головой. Почему ты все еще здесь? В твоем районе есть лимоны, которые можно сосать, вместо того, чтобы играть в сравнение яблок и апельсинов.

So why are you still at it, again? Youre still trying to compare two different things, bubba. Picking at me is not going to change this. I may sound bitter, in your opinion. Youre welcome to that opinion.But youre not entitled to your own "facts".
Exactly — even you could hold a dog that way.
 

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There's no direct comparison.
You cant spell it in any case....and I'm not an anatomist.
Tell you what. Why don't you ask your Doctor, or your vet. See what they say, if they dont have you arrested.
Maybe... pelvic floor muscles would be more appropriate, since most mammals have them. Then, if you want to be more accurate, there's comparative anatomy but I guess it would be hard to find this equivalence 😗. I asked you the question because I just wanted to know if "kegel's muscle" was a common denomination. Kegel exercises are famous. 14kg shit ! Sometimes patients come with their own words. Now I think I am going to the next police station, to surrender, maybe to give them a lecture on mammal tushies and all... 😉. Would you call my lawer pliz ?
 
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