I’d like to invite
@allyfitz , who appears to be the leading proponent of the claim that the female anatomy is not matched with the canine one, to share her thoughts in this discussion.
"proponent of the claim".... you mean me stating basic facts about human anatomy?
As
@pes said..
This is not a theory, the human vagina does not have the ring muscle that holds the knot in the canine vagina. Done, solved. That is how it is.
Like many people you see some thing in a video and then assume something else.
There are also videos like the one from SquirtSquid (I don't know if I can post here), where you can clearly see that the woman, even without using her hands, is locked on the knot and by moving her pelvis, she also moves the canine. So how is it in your case?
The other thing you'll notice in these videos is that they usually are close ups, which means you're also not seeing the person holding the dog steady from pulling out of the woman.
The human vagina has Kegel muscles that can perform the same function. Probably, by the way, they are exactly the same muscles, just arranged differently.
No... No... No.
Human Pelvic floor muscles do NOT perform the same function as a female canines sphincter muscle.
Probably, by the way, they are exactly the same muscles,
No they are most definitely not.
can perform the same function ... just arranged differently.
By being arranged differently they don't perform the same function. They apply tension in different directions.
Pelvic floor muscles apply tension laterally under the skin from anterior to posterior.
Sphincter muscles apply tension inward towards a cantral point.
Your butthole sphincter behaves differently than your bicept.
Depending on individual anatomical details of the dog and a woman, a dog can fully bury his knot inside a woman, and she can somewhat hold him. But if the dog puts any effort into it, he'll be able to pull out of a woman. Even if a woman works to strengthen her pelvic floor to be able to hold a knot a little better, it's only going to do so much, because tension on those muscles causes tautness perpendicular to the force that would be applied if a dog tried to pull out. Does it help a little... sure... will it help enough... no if the dog wants to pull out.
I've posted more here:
https://www.zoovilleforum.net/threa...ated-on-december-27th-2024.23594/post-1093811
There is a big difference between the knot being inside a womans vagina and the dog being tied. If a dog doesn't move once he gets his knot inside... that doesn't mean that she's "knotted" or "tied". To be knotted or tied like a female dog means that the male dog can try to pull out of the female and he will not be able to. Thus the butt to butt arrangement you see mated dogs in. The male dog will lean and pull away from the female dog and he will be unable to pull out of her. This what people mean when they say "knotted". The male and female are stuck together.
This "being stuck together" is not possible for a human female and a male dog. If the dog wanted to he could rip himself out of any woman.
A dog being inside a woman and not trying to pull himself out is not the same as the two being "knotted" or "tied".
TL;DR. While it is possible in some cases for a woman to be able to apply mild tension against a dogs knot based on anatomical details of her own body and the dogs body, this is very much an edge case. Just because a small percentage can do it, does not mean that its normal or common.
The exception does not disprove the rule.
And even in these cases, she wont be able to hold him if he wants to pull himself out.