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Uncomfortable Subliminal Disrespectful Name Calling Of Dogs

Kazegami said:
Yea, this bothers me too... feels not only like disrespect, but also like they don't really care about the animal. There could be some nicknames that walk the line and depend heavily on context and who you are with, but often just unnecessarily crude language.
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Some of those people tend to be neglectful of their animals.
 
I hear what you're saying and while it can be demeaning, sometimes it can be taken out of context as how someone sees the animal during the act of sex. I'm not condoning it in any way and believe me, in reality it's no different than when a bunch of guys are together in a bar and talking amongst themselves and saying the same thing about women. It's degrading and should never be said but it happens all the time. The best thing I would do is to just step up and politely say something like "I'm sorry but could you please not use that language in front of me. I find it demeaning and shameful." Most of the time when you confront somebody on a subject like this, they become completely embarrassed and not only realize the error of their ways but are quickly apologetic. Whenever I have heard stuff like this, it's usually coming from someone trying to show off in front of their friends.
 
So its wierd for me because although its good to know that when I imagine myself in a future where I am in a stable house with a dog and us doing the deed, I can only imagine myself corressing and praising her, I mainly grew this attraction from porn I believe (although since I was kid I got boners from getting cuddly/noticed by dogs, or rather big dogs in general). I also value animal-human relationships more than human-human since I honestly dont like the company of people that much when its not online contact. The best way to describe it really is that im romantically and sexually attracted to non-humans, but only sexually attracted to humans with a preference to non-humans. I dont know whether this makes me zoo-exclusive or not, but either way, I know that this attraction is real now and I suppose thats all that matters
 
AGoodK9 said:
So its wierd for me because although its good to know that when I imagine myself in a future where I am in a stable house with a dog and us doing the deed, I can only imagine myself corressing and praising her, I mainly grew this attraction from porn I believe (although since I was kid I got boners from getting cuddly/noticed by dogs, or rather big dogs in general). I also value animal-human relationships more than human-human since I honestly dont like the company of people that much when its not online contact. The best way to describe it really is that im romantically and sexually attracted to non-humans, but only sexually attracted to humans with a preference to non-humans. I dont know whether this makes me zoo-exclusive or not, but either way, I know that this attraction is real now and I suppose thats all that matters
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If you're open to other people, you're not zoo exclusive, you're simply not looking for anything actively.
 
ill agree with the fact there are people into this kind of talk but if they just minimize this effect or make it "internal" while also respecting the partner's wishes (as in they are still willing/into it/comfortable) i dont see a strong issue into it as long as you dont let it control your actions. remember your partners health comes 1st.
 
Well, there are people who really treats animals just like objects and there are people who simply like to talk dirty when having sex (it's a process which gives an extra arousing factor for certain persons). Dogs don't understand human words, they only associate them with positive or negative events. They can't be really offended by that, and I don't see really the problem if you just talk dirty but treat your partner in a respectful way...
 
Quent said:
Sometimes I make that error but it's mostly because English isn't my mother language. In French you don't have "It".
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Yeah, I have my guilt in this. Where I live, English books teaches you that for animals and objects you have to use the pronoun It, so if I'm talking of an undefined animal I often use it... we have just a corrispective of he and she in my country xD
 
ZTHorse said:
What makes me really upset is when a normie will refer to an animal as an "it". That just gets me everytime.
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I referred to an animal as "it" yesterday. The linguistic trouble with jawed leeches is that they are protrandrous, i.e. born male and later become female, and I don't know in which stage the leech is.
 
I only ever use bitch to appropriately describe my canine girls just as I use mare to describe my horse girls.
 
In our relationship, the dogs are "boys" and are never referred to in a degrading way, even if they do something "wrong". I am their bitch and like to be referred to in that term when we are playing or they are fucking me.

I don't really understand the question, possibly because the boys are treated with as much respect as any member of the household.
 
Pretty_Vixen said:
In our relationship, the dogs are "boys" and are never referred to in a degrading way, even if they do something "wrong". I am their bitch and like to be referred to in that term when we are playing or they are fucking me.

I don't really understand the question, possibly because the boys are treated with as much respect as any member of the household.
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What he's talking about are people who name call their animals in a negative manner that isn't so obvious. Some of these people tend to be animal abusers.
 
It's got nothing to do with someone being Zoophile or not. It's just the same with people calling their human partner a slut, a bitch, a whore, etc.
It's plain disrespectful asshole behaviour by people who think it makes them sound hard/tough/manly/whatever.

Some girls seem to like it though.
 
Sedirae said:
It's got nothing to do with someone being Zoophile or not. It's just the same with people calling their human partner a slut, a bitch, a whore, etc.
It's plain disrespectful asshole behaviour by people who think it makes them sound hard/tough/manly/whatever.

Some girls seem to like it though.
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Context is everything.
 
One of the few cases where it could be more justifiable to only do with people and not involve animals. With people, there's a few contexts where it makes sense without being genuinely disrespectful. Some people do it because they're close friends and its all just banter, which is fair and I can mostly understand, even if I suck at it. Then there's dirty talk, which is probably one of the most annoying things coming from most people. Most guys should just shut the fuck up and thrust instead of trying to be witty during sex, and leading up to it, I'd rather they speak with their body and not their hormonally scattered brain. I imagine there are men who feel the same way when a woman does it as well.

Funny thing is, animals understand neither, and imagining that you have the same kind of understanding between the two of you that allows for either, is incredibly laughable. About as laughable as having a sub/dom relationship with your dog, which they also can't understand. Really, if you want to be respectful and caring to your companion, you have to work within the scope of their understanding, and not yours. That being said however, the animal also doesn't care what you call it. (Or should I say him/her instead?) I don't halt my tongue to call my dog smelly whenever he's feeling gassy, but I think the real issue will be what the mind does when you do something that normally comes with more mutual baggage when done between humans, that doesn't exist between human and animal. If you keep describing and thinking of your dog as a horny bitch and something for you to take charge on and use, then you're probably heading towards something abusive. As with anything these days, you need to be watchful of what ideas you let into your head. Or maybe I'm overthinking it, and need to take a nap.
 
Zalanthe said:
One of the few cases where it could be more justifiable to only do with people and not involve animals. With people, there's a few contexts where it makes sense without being genuinely disrespectful. Some people do it because they're close friends and its all just banter, which is fair and I can mostly understand, even if I suck at it. Then there's dirty talk, which is probably one of the most annoying things coming from most people. Most guys should just shut the fuck up and thrust instead of trying to be witty during sex, and leading up to it, I'd rather they speak with their body and not their hormonally scattered brain. I imagine there are men who feel the same way when a woman does it as well.

Funny thing is, animals understand neither, and imagining that you have the same kind of understanding between the two of you that allows for either, is incredibly laughable. About as laughable as having a sub/dom relationship with your dog, which they also can't understand. Really, if you want to be respectful and caring to your companion, you have to work within the scope of their understanding, and not yours. That being said however, the animal also doesn't care what you call it. (Or should I say him/her instead?) I don't halt my tongue to call my dog smelly whenever he's feeling gassy, but I think the real issue will be what the mind does when you do something that normally comes with more mutual baggage when done between humans, that doesn't exist between human and animal. If you keep describing and thinking of your dog as a horny bitch and something for you to take charge on and use, then you're probably heading towards something abusive. As with anything these days, you need to be watchful of what ideas you let into your head. Or maybe I'm overthinking it, and need to take a nap.
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Dang it your right about that. There are times where darker imaginations slip into people. Its up to us who notice this think long and hard about our relationship with our fur friends.

Seriously lust is a pretty monster in disguise who takes everything you love then molds/destroys it once a relationship now a broken foundation when that action is taken.

It helps thinking of those times where you 2 had lots of bonding. Diligence is key to avoiding this thought process that plagues people's mind.
 
She tells me that she’s enjoying it with the kisses and the tail wags, bending down when we are doing it doggy style, and laying her head on me when we are in bed. I tell her I love her by kisses on her neck and face, and petting her in all her favorite places. That being said I also talk to her all the time. Even if they don’t understand our English, they do understand our tones. So when I tell her how much I love her in the tone that she has learned as the tone I use when I’m showing affection, she understands.
 
Reconscope said:
Dang it your right about that. There are times where darker imaginations slip into people. Its up to us who notice this think long and hard about our relationship with our fur friends.

Seriously lust is a pretty monster in disguise who takes everything you love then molds/destroys it once a relationship now a broken foundation when that action is taken.

It helps thinking of those times where you 2 had lots of bonding. Diligence is key to avoiding this thought process that plagues people's mind.
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I think a big part of it also depends on exactly where you start when you first get into intimate activities with your companion, and to and extent, there's also a disparity between men and women when it comes to it. Ideally, when starting, you'd already want to be in a mindset of maintaining mutual understanding and working on equal footing. While I personally think this particular instance mostly applies to men with female dogs, I think a more extreme and awful, yet analogous variation for women would be more in terms of roleplaying. If my dog mounted me, and I feign distress like he forced himself on me, the dog doesn't understand abstractions from the act and the reality of things.

How it then goes from there, I can't really say, I imagine it depends on the dog. Going by some accounts it may just make him think he can get away with going against your consent or lack thereof, but I could just as well imagine a dog deciding to never mount their partner again if the pretend distress was extreme enough. In any case, despite the roles being slightly different in the interaction, you once again end up with a less than ideal outcome because of a barrier in communication between you and your companion.
 
Zalanthe said:
I think a big part of it also depends on exactly where you start when you first get into intimate activities with your companion, and to and extent, there's also a disparity between men and women when it comes to it. Ideally, when starting, you'd already want to be in a mindset of maintaining mutual understanding and working on equal footing. While I personally think this particular instance mostly applies to men with female dogs, I think a more extreme and awful, yet analogous variation for women would be more in terms of roleplaying. If my dog mounted me, and I feign distress like he forced himself on me, the dog doesn't understand abstractions from the act and the reality of things.

How it then goes from there, I can't really say, I imagine it depends on the dog. Going by some accounts it may just make him think he can get away with going against your consent or lack thereof, but I could just as well imagine a dog deciding to never mount their partner again if the pretend distress was extreme enough. In any case, despite the roles being slightly different in the interaction, you once again end up with a less than ideal outcome because of a barrier in communication between you and your companion.
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In other words case by case basis. Communication and acceptance is key
 
DaneLover1 said:
She tells me that she’s enjoying it with the kisses and the tail wags, bending down when we are doing it doggy style, and laying her head on me when we are in bed. I tell her I love her by kisses on her neck and face, and petting her in all her favorite places. That being said I also talk to her all the time. Even if they don’t understand our English, they do understand our tones. So when I tell her how much I love her in the tone that she has learned as the tone I use when I’m showing affection, she understands.
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Of course, but in that case, your actions, your words, and your intentions are all the same. Dogs might not understand our words, but they can apply meaning to the parts that they do understand, such as tone, by association with physical communication. Hence, you'd never fall into a category of either calling her bad things through direct disrespect, or a erotic, playful context that she doesn't understand the concepts of. I call both my boys handsome a lot, but there's no decoherence between my thoughts, actions, and intentions, so even if the concept itself isn't conveyed, it ultimately is harmless or just affectionate to them.
 
Reconscope said:
Dang it your right about that. There are times where darker imaginations slip into people. Its up to us who notice this think long and hard about our relationship with our fur friends.

Seriously lust is a pretty monster in disguise who takes everything you love then molds/destroys it once a relationship now a broken foundation when that action is taken.

It helps thinking of those times where you 2 had lots of bonding. Diligence is key to avoiding this thought process that plagues people's mind.
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There are bigger monsters than lust out there...
 
pes said:
Look at the amount of users on this forum. 52000 from which you only see a very small fraction actually post on the forum and from this fraction only very very few are zoo exclusive and actually understand the term. You can see that the majority of the rest are not zoophiles and some of those openly admit they just like watching weird porn but would never have sex with an actual animal. So my guess is that calling a female dog a bitch is very easy for someone who mainly watches porn to see women do weird things.
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I second that.

Zoophiles are very rare.
 
I speak little english, but there are also expressions in my native language that are contemptuous of female dogs. I don’t like to use those words. The term "bitch" is used by Google's translator, basically a correct term (into my language), but I don't like it. In my language, there is a separate word for a prostituted woman and a female dog (uses more words than that). English uses a common word for this so I can’t explain. But I don’t like to use any of the terms.
I usually call them "my daughters" or "my girls", "my beauty" etc. or I use the word indifferent "female dog". It’s not that ugly and easy to understand.

I think those who are emotionally and spiritually close to the animals use the nicer words (girls, beauty). Other people don’t deal with it, they also use negative words (bitch, it).
 
I take it that none of the people here who cannot abide by the use of derogatory slang when referring to animals are equally as offended by the low frequency, bone rattling, inane bantering that passes for “music” as it refers to women?

Point being, if you don’t respect women, or people in general, you’re very likely not going to respect animals, either.
 
I think is more of a mind/kink thing than a disrespect issue. Seems like most men that do that are attempting to insert dominance through the half thought words. I'm not zoo exclusive, just 1/2 but I completely understand how this can offend you when you're life revolves around passion of animals. Seems that depending on how turned on I am depends on the thoughts rambling around in one way or another, but I don't 'curse them like a dog'
 
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