Therapist Reaction?

[Kristy]

IF I were seeing a therapist, there is no way I would tell him or her I was zoo. Nothing could make me do that.
"Kink friendly?" Yeah, right. Most people, and medical professionals are people, leave zoo off the table when they talk about being open-minded to kinks. No thanks.

 

[Riotinthesheets2]

Im in grad school to become a therapist myself AND I recently saw a therapist to talk about my attraction to animals - so perhaps I have different layers of perspective with this question.

My therapist, in short, is amazing. I haven’t had many sessions since I can’t afford to go too often (grad school life lol). When I talked to him about having attraction to horses, he validated my perspective, saying that our culture really sexualizes animals in media, yet acts appalled when we actually experience attraction to animal shapes. Then, he asked me if having a sexual relationship with a horse is something that I’d want, or if I just wanted to spend therapy working on accepting my feelings. I was honest - saying that I’d eventually like to have a sexual relationship with a mare or stallion. He then talked to me about how he was aware that horses could be very receptive to human pheromones, and that a sexual relationship with one could very well be possible if I did it responsibly.

Lastly, I talked about how I would need to manage it while also being in a long term relationship with a human woman (my gf is well aware of my sexuality and supports me). He suggested that, because of my anxieties, I slowly warm up to the idea of actually fucking a horse. He proposed that first my gf and I fuck in a barn, then eventually have sex near a horse, then slowly start to incorporate the animal into my sex life after that. I could kiss the horse, give it a massage or bath, and then fuck my gf since I’d already be aroused from interacting with the animal. Eventually, if I’m safe and comfortable, I could start initiating more and more sexual contact with the horse.

I don’t know what specifically I’ll end up doing down the road, but it was amazing talking to someone who acted like what I was saying was totally normal. I’ll continue going to try to get more insight, and I’ll happily continue talking about my conversations in therapy.

I'm just not able to accpet the idea that a therapist will tell people 'yeah go ahead and fuck an animal'. sure they said do it responsibly but seriously people are anything but. They aren't even aware of how to properly and responsibly KEEP these animals. encouraging them to have sex with animals is going to hurt a lot of animals and people who think it was their green light to essentially rape and unwilling animal

 

[Animallover]

I don't trust therapist, the last one I when to told me I should go home and end my life because I had nothing with living for.
But I got plenty to live for and they all love me.

 

[Kristy]

I don't trust therapist, the last one I when to told me I should go home and end my life because I had nothing with living for.
But I got plenty to live for and they all love me.

You should have immediately reported that to the board governing his field of practice. He may even have broken a few laws, not sure.
Thank-goodness you didn't follow his advice, and that you're still with us.

 

[j217]

Im in grad school to become a therapist myself AND I recently saw a therapist to talk about my attraction to animals - so perhaps I have different layers of perspective with this question.

My therapist, in short, is amazing. I haven’t had many sessions since I can’t afford to go too often (grad school life lol). When I talked to him about having attraction to horses, he validated my perspective, saying that our culture really sexualizes animals in media, yet acts appalled when we actually experience attraction to animal shapes. Then, he asked me if having a sexual relationship with a horse is something that I’d want, or if I just wanted to spend therapy working on accepting my feelings. I was honest - saying that I’d eventually like to have a sexual relationship with a mare or stallion. He then talked to me about how he was aware that horses could be very receptive to human pheromones, and that a sexual relationship with one could very well be possible if I did it responsibly.

Lastly, I talked about how I would need to manage it while also being in a long term relationship with a human woman (my gf is well aware of my sexuality and supports me). He suggested that, because of my anxieties, I slowly warm up to the idea of actually fucking a horse. He proposed that first my gf and I fuck in a barn, then eventually have sex near a horse, then slowly start to incorporate the animal into my sex life after that. I could kiss the horse, give it a massage or bath, and then fuck my gf since I’d already be aroused from interacting with the animal. Eventually, if I’m safe and comfortable, I could start initiating more and more sexual contact with the horse.

I don’t know what specifically I’ll end up doing down the road, but it was amazing talking to someone who acted like what I was saying was totally normal. I’ll continue going to try to get more insight, and I’ll happily continue talking about my conversations in therapy.

I'm glad that you have found such a helpful and supportive person. In my experience with therapists for various issues over the course of my life (mostly arising from a childhood with significant medical problems (both personal and family) and some abuse) they have generally been compassionate, accepting, very dedicated to privacy (like the guy who told be right at the beginning that he never takes notes so they can't be subpoenaed), and refuse to be cops for victimless crimes. A few have been among the wisest people I have ever known, and on my short list of Good People. I'd encourage people here who are thinking of seeing a therapist of whatever sort to give it a try. You don't have to come out right away about anything zoo related but can talk about other out of the mainstream things to gauge how they would react, and look for someone else if you are not sure about them. Also many of them have adjustable rates depending on your financial situation; one guy told me that he had once charged a teenager a dollar a week.

 

[stami]

Unfortunately, you can't write anything in this forum that isn't used against you in other threads of this forum. I've just been told that i'm "constantly" in "treatment" and therefore don't need to talk to me at all.

Here is really the collected shit of humanity gathered!

 

[Goattobeloved]

I wrote that the most positive reaction was to leave the subject out. There were quite a few others!

Yes, I am sure there can be "bad reactions" as some things may collide with thereapis. They are, in the end, persons as all of us.

But if you go see a thereapist and tell him "I come because I have a problem with myself concerning topic 'A' "
I can do with a professional answer "I am not willing to touch 'A', I will recomend you another who might be able to help"
or even with a less professional being pushed out and told not to return.

But saying "Of course I will help you solving your problems, but never again mention the reason you came asking for help" does not really make sense.
Is like telling a contractor your house has leaks on the roof amd him telling you "Right, lets see what we can do about it, but I can't stand heights, so we are not talking again about any leak on the roof. Never"

 

[stami]

Yes, I am sure there can be "bad reactions" as some things may collide with thereapis. They are, in the end, persons as all of us.

But if you go see a thereapist and tell him "I come because I have a problem with myself concerning topic 'A' "
I can do with a professional answer "I am not willing to touch 'A', I will recomend you another who might be able to help"
or even with a less professional being pushed out and told not to return.

But saying "Of course I will help you solving your problems, but never again mention the reason you came asking for help" does not really make sense.
Is like telling a contractor your house has leaks on the roof amd him telling you "Right, lets see what we can do about it, but I can't stand heights, so we are not talking again about any leak on the roof. Never"

It's not like someone runs to the therapist and says i have a problem with zoosex. That would be somehow unworldly.

Most of the time, you have something like a breakdown for some other reason, and then your "sex life" comes up as a side issue. just speaking hypothetically and without any concrete reference to specific people.

 

[Black_Unicorn]

I think my therapist needed a therapist after she found out what was under my shell

I don't think you can be a therapist without having your own therapist. Handling other peoples shit is a big job. It will open up ideas and problems that will take time to deal with.

 

[Kristy]

Unfortunately, you can't write anything in this forum that isn't used against you in other threads of this forum. I've just been told that i'm "constantly" in "treatment" and therefore don't need to talk to me at all.

Here is really the collected shit of humanity gathered!

No one should have said that to you. That was ugly, and I'm sorry someone said it.

 

[timmythetooth]

You should have immediately reported that to the board governing his field of practice. He may even have broken a few laws, not sure.
Thank-goodness you didn't follow his advice, and that you're still with us.

wouldnt have this been the same situation about the therapist that seemingly encouraged to do stuff in the barn and then incorporate the horse?
you could easily have reported the therapist for encouraging such behavior. as bad as it may sound, it seems like both actions are bad and could easilly land the patient and the therapist in hot water if and when things go wrong.

i feel that patient AND therapist, would have to tiptoe through any scenario really. like those memes we see online saying that you want to be very open but not open enough that youd get admitted lol. as for me and my mental issues, i seem to have notice that wacky tobaccy has helped overall for analizing and acceptance

 

[elarring]

I find that remarkable. I have not yet met a therapist who has actively advised me to do so. So far, the most positive reaction has been the agreement not to talk about it anymore, to leave it out.

This surprises me. I'm not sure why a therapist wouldn't want to talk about it with you, unless it dominated the session and made extremely defensive. If it's the Therapist's distaste, find another therapist. A good therapist might have a personal reaction, but they push it away to treat their patient, it's about YOU, not them.

There's a lot of bad therapists out there, like any other profession.

 

[knotarguing]

Im in grad school to become a therapist myself AND I recently saw a therapist to talk about my attraction to animals - so perhaps I have different layers of perspective with this question.

My therapist, in short, is amazing. I haven’t had many sessions since I can’t afford to go too often (grad school life lol). When I talked to him about having attraction to horses, he validated my perspective, saying that our culture really sexualizes animals in media, yet acts appalled when we actually experience attraction to animal shapes. Then, he asked me if having a sexual relationship with a horse is something that I’d want, or if I just wanted to spend therapy working on accepting my feelings. I was honest - saying that I’d eventually like to have a sexual relationship with a mare or stallion. He then talked to me about how he was aware that horses could be very receptive to human pheromones, and that a sexual relationship with one could very well be possible if I did it responsibly.

Lastly, I talked about how I would need to manage it while also being in a long term relationship with a human woman (my gf is well aware of my sexuality and supports me). He suggested that, because of my anxieties, I slowly warm up to the idea of actually fucking a horse. He proposed that first my gf and I fuck in a barn, then eventually have sex near a horse, then slowly start to incorporate the animal into my sex life after that. I could kiss the horse, give it a massage or bath, and then fuck my gf since I’d already be aroused from interacting with the animal. Eventually, if I’m safe and comfortable, I could start initiating more and more sexual contact with the horse.

I don’t know what specifically I’ll end up doing down the road, but it was amazing talking to someone who acted like what I was saying was totally normal. I’ll continue going to try to get more insight, and I’ll happily continue talking about my conversations in therapy.

Out of curiosity, do you live in a place where zoophilia isn't illegal?

Because I imagine if the place where you live is not illegal the approach of the therapist may be different, so of course he is open-minded

I know that in Canada therapists have an obligation to denounce if something is illegal, of course if there has been no harm done they can simply suggest changing the subject

 

[VicColfari]

Thank you all for opening this subject up, it's really interesting. ?

 

[Hippotoes]

Out of curiosity, do you live in a place where zoophilia isn't illegal?

Because I imagine if the place where you live is not illegal the approach of the therapist may be different, so of course he is open-minded

I know that in Canada therapists have an obligation to denounce if something is illegal, of course if there has been no harm done they can simply suggest changing the subject

No, I live in the United States. I can’t explain why specifically my therapist was so supportive, but I wasn’t going to complain about it. It was a great session.

 

[Nachtwanderer]

Unfortunately, you can't write anything in this forum that isn't used against you in other threads of this forum. I've just been told that i'm "constantly" in "treatment" and therefore don't need to talk to me at all.

Here is really the collected shit of humanity gathered!

well, people with the most internalized problems look down on those, that are able to recognize their issues and are looking for help. you are able to selfreflect and nitice something is bothering you and are looking for help. thats in my opinion the reasonable thing to do.
"people in therapie go to therapie, because of people that should go to therapie"
i am sorry the mentality here and in gernal is more aline with finding supposed weaknesses and using them against people. but then again, human nature is not far removed from primal instincts. and internalized issues often show themself in ugly behavior.

 

[knotarguing]

Unfortunately, you can't write anything in this forum that isn't used against you in other threads of this forum. I've just been told that i'm "constantly" in "treatment" and therefore don't need to talk to me at all.

Here is really the collected shit of humanity gathered!

This kind of thing often happens when you have the strength of your convictions and you are not afraid to go against the current and say what you think

Try not to get hurt by his free attacks it's not worth it

 

[Kristy]

wouldnt have this been the same situation about the therapist that seemingly encouraged to do stuff in the barn and then incorporate the horse?
you could easily have reported the therapist for encouraging such behavior. as bad as it may sound, it seems like both actions are bad and could easilly land the patient and the therapist in hot water if and when things go wrong.

i feel that patient AND therapist, would have to tiptoe through any scenario really. like those memes we see online saying that you want to be very open but not open enough that youd get admitted lol. as for me and my mental issues, i seem to have notice that wacky tobaccy has helped overall for analizing and acceptance

No. I wasn't replying to the OP.
I was replying to THIS person, who was told by a therapist to go home and kill herself:
https://www.zoovilleforum.net/threads/therapist-reaction.41908/post-953674