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Spiritual zoos: Who here is spiritually active/oriented? (Lightworkers, healers, psychic empaths, animal communicators, channelers, seekers, etc, ...)

But I'm forgetful
Okay, lemmie address the one thing we haven't....

How can you let something work for you? I figured fate will always take its course wherever that may be.
Fate is something we haven't talked about.

We addressed following someone and following ourselves.

Following others (dogma) is letting others lead you. You give up personal soverignty for security of just doing as you're told. This can be helpful with "new souls" (not going into that today - that's grad course stuff).

Following your own built-in manual requires self discipline. You can have guides, but no one is a master over you. You retain soverignty. The downside is there is no safety net. Benefits are great! So are the risks.

Fatalism is, "Who give a fook, it's all predestined anyhoo!"
It is the one I see least evidence for because it dismisses that one special thing we are all given and have over all but a few animals - free will!
 
There is nothing to "come to me." Whatever "it" is, I already have it. Nothing else needed, and if something else did try to come to me, I would toss it away. In a hurry.
You got it.
When you said this:
Whatever "it" is, I already have it.
I knew you did ^_^
 
Okay, lemmie address the one thing we haven't....


Fate is something we haven't talked about.

We addressed following someone and following ourselves.

Following others (dogma) is letting others lead you. You give up personal soverignty for security of just doing as you're told. This can be helpful with "new souls" (not going into that today - that's grad course stuff).

Following your own built-in manual requires self discipline. You can have guides, but no one is a master over you. You retain soverignty. The downside is there is no safety net. Benefits are great! So are the risks.

Fatalism is, "Who give a fook, it's all predestined anyhoo!"
It is the one I see least evidence for because it dismisses that one special thing we are all given and have over all but a few animals - free will!
Why do new souls need to be told what to do?
 
Garbage? Offensive? I don't even know what you're referring to.
I was referring to the following post:
There is nothing to "come to me." Whatever "it" is, I already have it. Nothing else needed, and if something else did try to come to me, I would toss it away. In a hurry.
I was saying that you'd throw me out in a hurry, but I guess it was a bad joke.
 
Why do new souls need to be told what to do?
Sorry, mataphor time. May be a bad one, but I'm comfortable with it. Interpret as you see fit.

More like a child being raised.

There will come a point the child says, "F**K this shit!" and leaves the church (or whatever) to seek what truth is right for him/her. This is like an adolescent seeking their place in the world.

After much seeking and trying on this and that, they discover a bib here and a bob there that rings with them. They may create an eclectic path of bits from all, yet none. (it's what I did).

Then in the stillness of contemplating all these puzzle pieces, they realize they never needed faith, thay ARE their faith. It is right for them and no one else.

They are an adult.

Some may honour a God, gods or goddess as a focal, or not.

Just my view of one facet of the spiritual diamond.
 
Sorry, mataphor time. May be a bad one, but I'm comfortable with it. Interpret as you see fit.

More like a child being raised.

There will come a point the child says, "F**K this shit!" and leaves the church (or whatever) to seek what truth is right for him/her. This is like an adolescent seeking their place in the world.

After much seeking and trying on this and that, they discover a bib here and a bob there that rings with them. They may create an eclectic path of bits from all, yet none. (it's what I did).

Then in the stillness of contemplating all these puzzle pieces, they realize they never needed faith, thay ARE their faith. It is right for them and no one else.

They are an adult.

Some may honour a God, gods or goddess as a focal, or not.

Just my view of one facet of the spiritual diamond.
But a soul isn't a child...
 
Yes.
Dogmatic paths can guide one what to do and what NOT to do.
But that's missing the point, it's not about guidance but OBEDIENCE. OBEY and you'll make it, being guided and obeying authority are two different things.
 
But that's missing the point, it's not about guidance but OBEDIENCE. OBEY and you'll make it, being guided and obeying authority are two different things.
I am so sorry you had that experience.... and/or read that from others' experiences.
In another lifetime 30 or so years ago, I was an ordained Christian Minister.... yes, that happened. There was a lot of heartfelt guidance from the non-brainwashed.
 
I am so sorry you had that experience.... and/or read that from others' experiences.
In another lifetime 30 or so years ago, I was an ordained Christian Minister.... yes, that happened. There was a lot of heartfelt guidance from the non-brainwashed.
Even in non-religious spiritual practices obedience is above all.
 
Even in non-religious spiritual practices obedience is above all.
Those with a leadership structure, yes.

I came to a point I rejected that, too.

My last "religion" before becoming my own faith was Wicca.
(you wanna get laid like crazy? Become a male Wiccan!:ROFLMAO: )
 
It's called Law of Attraction - become that which you want/need.


Acceptance, surrender to "what is" instead of living the anxious lie of "what could be" and the beginning of awareness brings this on. The inner child is freed from his prison and can play!


Spirituality and religion aren't the same and each of us has to come by it in our own way. Spiritualists MAY be religious, but religious people are almost never spiritual.

Spirituality comes from the heart, religion from dogma.


Awakening compassion is the beginning of the rough ride. One must cleanse the layers we have allowed to sully ourselves with.
Well said! Thanks for the comforting words.

Question: I've been having dreams as of late where I experience situations where I feel get to feel emotions like anger, fear, irritation, and frustration. Now, I cannot remember the the last bad day I've had, I always seem to find something to be positive about, and would find it highly unlikely that I've subconciously been running from something.

I've also been meditating 2 times a day for like 9 months or so. 10 minutes in the morning, and 20 in the evening where I visualize for ten minutes as well. And there have been on occasion situations where I'd normally would've grotten frustrated or angered, but since the awakening and meditation. I could find peace when I experienced injustice by hands of a manager. Normally I'd would've been in my head about something like that for days. But I noticed how easy I handled that situation and was one of the first signs I think for confirmation of good meditation practice.

And also, when I quitted smoking in 2018. Numerous time I used to dream about accidentally lighting a cigarette, and being hooked again thinking how I could've let that happen.

And now the real question, lol. ? Do you think that these dream may symbolize my subconscious mind letting go of things that do not suit me anymore? I like to think it is because of the example with the addiction dreams. Aso because I've recently heard somewhere that a lot of people get sort of addicted to negative affirmations as well..

Or would you think its rather some unknowingly suppressed emotions of some kind? Or should I just not think too much of them? Would gladly hear your opinion mister Zen sir. ?? Thanks!
 
Namaste, ElusiveBiBoy! ?

Well said! Thanks for the comforting words.

Question: I've been having dreams as of late where I experience situations where I feel get to feel emotions like anger, fear, irritation, and frustration. Now, I cannot remember the the last bad day I've had, I always seem to find something to be positive about, and would find it highly unlikely that I've subconciously been running from something.

....

And now the real question, lol. ? Do you think that these dream may symbolize my subconscious mind letting go of things that do not suit me anymore? I like to think it is because of the example with the addiction dreams. Aso because I've recently heard somewhere that a lot of people get sort of addicted to negative affirmations as well..

Or would you think its rather some unknowingly suppressed emotions of some kind? Or should I just not think too much of them? Would gladly hear your opinion mister Zen sir. ?? Thanks!

You are most welcome!

Dreams are messengers. Your subconscious and higher self are both active.

The danger lies in differentiating which is illusion (active mind, typical dreaming), deception (piece of pepperoni that isn't sitting well in your tummy or negative spirits), playful release (OMG! Sexy!) or genuine messages, warnings or premenitions. An indication of the latter is repetition.

Another message type is facing unhealed emotions. Things that can blindside you in your waking hours.

Another type of message is healing. The letting go.

Some of the works by Carl Jung touched on these. You can balance the science agaist the dream stuff by Llewellyn in metaphysical stores and come to your own interpretations.

I've also been meditating 2 times a day for like 9 months or so. 10 minutes in the morning, and 20 in the evening where I visualize for ten minutes as well. And there have been on occasion situations where I'd normally would've grotten frustrated or angered, but since the awakening and meditation. I could find peace when I experienced injustice by hands of a manager. Normally I'd would've been in my head about something like that for days. But I noticed how easy I handled that situation and was one of the first signs I think for confirmation of good meditation practice.

Congratulations! You have learned one of the most beautiful things of meditation - allowing yourself to be the observer and not the participant in the mind's reactions.

It is best said that meditation doesn't control your thoughts, it allows you to be NOT controlled by them.

I used to have such anxiety that I was on pretty heavy SSRI's. Since meditating, I'm off all of them, except a couple of vitamins/minerals to help with stress.

And also, when I quitted smoking in 2018. Numerous time I used to dream about accidentally lighting a cigarette, and being hooked again thinking how I could've let that happen.

WOW! What an accomplishment!

To overcome smoking is a HUGE battle won. 2019 was my quit year ^_^

Yes, we must forever remain vigillant.

Peace!
 
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