So I just found a website and it doesn't come up in search feature, thought I should share

[ryirkil]

stumbled across it while looking for our flag:

Zoo Resources

This is a public resource about the anti-c zoo community.

zooresources.carrd.co

Since the website is out there in the wild, I'm bringing it to your attention, so that we can have a discussion. I really encourage you to read the whole thing. My opinions had to be scrapped because I started writing before reading to the end.

Speaking of which, if anyone is interested in the aforementioned opinions, here we go:

Looks like we have some sort of secession going on. And not just another group being created, this one has a completely different view on the matter. They refuse to put the animals first and focus on themselves, arguing this is going to let them "walk in the light", read, be open about zoophilia under their own names. The website doesn't explicitly state to be at odds with us, trying to argue for coexistence. However, it appears the reason they abandon bestiality altogether is because of external pressure that would otherwise force them into hiding. That pressure will not stop being applied to us. I'm afraid it's gonna end like with the furries. Not only that, there is already this kind of sentiment:

Kindness and Transparency
Show mercy, but be wary of people who have practiced bestiality in the past. People should be able to get away from the pro-c zoo community. People change. People make mistakes. Hold people accountable for their actions but be fair in judgement. Be reserved and supportive.

Even though the standard for accountability is our ZETA principles (bottom of the site). There is also apparent ignorance, since the consent issue, which is clearly going to end in major frictions between us is deemed "not worth fighting over". I guess it wouldn't if they truly don't care about animals, so whatever we do to our partners wouldn't matter to them, while we would have no problem either, since they don't interact with animals to begin with. But what zoo would ever reject the animals as irrelevant? I can't see anything good for us resulting from this. Maybe some people would be helped, it's too early for me to say what objective impact this new movement will have. But for us? Trouble at best.

 

[dogluver101]

Seems they used ZV as the example because of the arguing, and hateful things. Which I can't deny. I personally wouldn't use the dumpster fire as the example, but anyway...
The section for Identity politics. It's why there is the wiki to help with some of those. But thinking about it, some may not want the extra wordy pages. I'll have to see how I can make it more modern and have it in an audio file form or something like that.
I'd be weary of the 2016 flag, as I've noticed some antis in Instagram for example were using it.

 

[ryirkil]

It's why there is the wiki to help with some of those. But thinking about it, some may not want the extra wordy pages. I'll have to see how I can make it more modern and have it in an audio file form or something like that.
I'd be weary of the 2016 flag, as I've noticed some antis in Instagram for example were using it.

Yes, antis love it. There is a whole mythology about it being created purely to barge our way into the LGBT movement. But please, include the newest variants somewhere visible (zoo community 2019 and the alt). I remember the alt being made different just for the sake of being a little different and "new", I think Toggle tweeted it first but that I'm not sure of.

 

[nekdoneco123]

"our flag"? oO

 

[K_9River_rat]

Wtf?!?

I don't even know what to think about that other than someone with too much time on their hands.

 

[pes]

Wow there is a lot of lore around us I never heard of.

ANTI-CONTACT (ANTI-C):
PRO-CONTACT (PRO-C):
NON PRACTICING:
PRACTICING:
NON-CONTACT:
ANTI- BESTIALITY:
PRO-BESTIALITY:

Soon you will be able to put a whole page together to describe what you are just made of tags.

"BUT ANIMALS CAN CONSENT!"
Consent does not factor into any of this because the pro-c zoophile community is the issue, and the behavior in and around it should be the focal point.
Abusive fetish porn is shared freely, zoosadists are rampant, and people live in the darkness afraid they will be found and exploited. They live in fear behind alts and false personas, which allows this abuse to take place.THE PROBLEM IS BESTIALITY. A DIVORCE FROM BESTIALITY IS FREEDOM

So apparently we are a problem. Because me a zoophile having sex with my dog with consent somehow enables animal abuse and therefore I should not be doing that?
Is that what it means?

Community Unity
Many people believe that animals cannot consent or can consent. It is an argument not worth fighting over as it divides the community and isn't applicable to the goals of this community. The core overall for the anti-contact community is to be against bestiality for any reason a person may believe in.

That is some A-grade bullshit there.
Against bestiality even though you have two consenting adults wanting to participate in it?
I sense some woke, modern age of acceptance and diversity crap.

Kindness and Transparency
Show mercy, but be wary of people who have practiced bestiality in the past. People should be able to get away from the pro-c zoo community. People change. People make mistakes. Hold people accountable for their actions but be fair in judgement. Be reserved and supportive.

Consent Arguments
This community puts humans first. The damage that bestiality has on a human takes precedence as a human cannot take care of an animal if they cannot take care of themself. Bestiality is dangerous due to laws, social stigma, pornographic fixations, the high rate of abuse, and blackmail from the pro-c community itself. It is too dangerous to recommend.

Of course, a zoophile community that does not care about animals.
Are any of these people actually zoophiles? How about you are attracted to animals and not people.

"I've attempted to find similar things from the zoo community but it is so inundated with a fixation on pornographic content, fetishism, and an obsession with animals at the expense of self identity."

Yes for fuck sake we are zoophiles, of course we are obsessed with animals. What the fuck are you?
If he was interested in the "zoo community" he would have omitted the the fetish part since these are not zoophiles.

"I've noticed quite a few live isolated from the rest of society or only interact with the pro-c zoo community only."

Well yes. Because as it seems when you stuff your snout into the community this guy made up, you are labeled harmful and abusive because you love your dog. So why would you interact with the anti-c nonsense when their idea is that you should be isolated or converted to the right non-c path.
Throw away your animals, cure yourself from being a zoophile and become a woke inclusionist with a page of tags that identify you.

Merged, rant finished.

 

[K_9River_rat]

Wow there is a lot of lore around us I never heard of.

Soon you will be able to put a whole page together to describe what you are just made of tags.


So apparently we are a problem. Because me a zoophile having sex with my dog with consent somehow enables animal abuse and therefore I should not be doing that?
Is that what it means?


That is some A-grade bullshit there.
Against bestiality even though you have two consenting adults wanting to participate in it?
I sense some woke, modern age of acceptance and diversity crap.


Of course, a zoophile community that does not care about animals.
Are any of these people actually zoophiles? How about you are attracted to animals and not people.


Yes for fuck sake we are zoophiles, of course we are obsessed with animals. What the fuck are you?
If he was interested in the "zoo community" he would have omitted the the fetish part since these are not zoophiles.


Well yes. Because as it seems when you stuff your snout into the community this guy made up, you are labeled harmful and abusive because you love your dog. So why would you interact with the anti-c nonsense when their idea is that you should be isolated or converted to the right non-c path.
Throw away your animals, cure yourself from being a zoophile and become a woke inclusionist with a page of tags that identify you.

Merged, rant finished.

I couldn't even read all of it. Read the same stuff that you quoted and by then the smell of bullshit had me gagging so bad that I just couldn't take anymore of the self righteous crap... Sounds like someone coming up with something to make themselves feel better because they actually hate themselves.

 

[pes]

"BUT ANTI-C AND PRO-C ARE MAP WORDS!"
Cope. MAP verbage has been around since the 90's and is more appropriate to use as they are more accurate for contact discourse, which is a cornerstone in zoophilia arguments.

And of course lets inundate our "community" with pedo terminology. Because that is exactly what we all need. Compare ourselves to pedos.

"MAP - MAPs are persons who are attracted to minors younger than 15 years old who are significantly younger than themselves." That is the definition of a pedophile. Go fuck yourself with your 90's verbage.
"Pedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children."

 

[Caniform]

A divorce from bestiality is the safest route to advocate for acceptance and change.

Advocate for the acceptance of what? The change of what?

 

[K_9River_rat]

Advocate for the acceptance of what? The change of what?

Again, I think this is a zoo that hates themselves for what they are, and is trying to make themselves feel better about it since they can't help being zoo, so they're trying to put out some kind of argument that "it's ok to be zoo if you don't act on it." To maybe feel more comfortable telling normies what they are and be accepted since wanting to have sex with an animal is not the same as actually doing it.

Which of course is actually true, but I feel like they're trying to play it off like a mental defect or learning disability..

 

[originalnamehere]

Ah, yes, self hatred and denial.
What a clusterfuck of a website and sewage of speech.

 

[originalnamehere]

Anti-contact. Imagine not petting a dog because you're scared you'd fuck it right on the spot. Sounds like a bit of OCD related to their sexual desires. These are the same people that would have you castrate your animals in fear of the being maybe having sexual desires and then use the post altering lack of desire as proof animals have no desire for pleasure.

 

[K_9River_rat]

Anti-contact. Imagine not petting a dog because you're scared you'd fuck it right on the spot. Sounds like a bit of OCD related to their sexual desires. These are the same people that would have you castrate your animals in fear of the being maybe having sexual desires and then use the post altering lack of desire as proof animals have no desire for pleasure.

Right!

 

[K_9River_rat]

Ah, yes, self hatred and denial.
What a clusterfuck of a website and sewage of speech.

To bad there wasn't any way to leave that as a comment there!

 

[ryirkil]

Anti-contact. Imagine not petting a dog because you're scared you'd fuck it right on the spot.

Interestingly, I've been trying to find some confirmation that "contact" is literally any contact and not just sexual but I can not find the term used in this broader context. Kinda misleading and definitely confusing.

 

[originalnamehere]

Interestingly, I've been trying to find some confirmation that "contact" is literally any contact and not just sexual but I can not find the term used in this broader context. Kinda misleading and definitely confusing.

Well, having been on tumblr in 2016, it's usually used to refer to any interaction.

 

[MashaSobaka]

"our flag"? oO

Yeah, there are two types of zoo flags.

 

[pes]

Yeah, there are two types of zoo flags.

Zoo Resources

This is a public resource about the anti-c zoo community.

zooresources.carrd.co

There are 6. Because it makes things more simple.

 

[originalnamehere]

Yeah, there are two types of zoo flags.

What's the difference?

 

[pes]

What's the difference?

The colors represent:
Brown - Animals of the earth
Green - Animals of the water
Blue - Animals of the sky.
These are explained on the site above. I would guess this information is correct even though utterly pointless.

 

[originalnamehere]

The colors represent:
Brown - Animals of the earth
Green - Animals of the water
Blue - Animals of the sky.
These are explained on the site above. I would guess this information is correct even though utterly pointless.

I'm sorry, but what about Animals of The Fire??

 

[MashaSobaka]

What's the difference?

Purple is the older version (before 2016), brown is the newer version. The problem with purple for many was that it was easy to confuse it with LGBT flags.

By the way, as far as I know, there is no official zoo flag. The zoo community never invented and adopted its own flag.

 

[pes]

I'm sorry, but what about Animals of The Fire??

Those are way too much sexy and probably would convert anyone instantly and thus not included in case a random bystander spots the flag.

 

[MashaSobaka]

Barna - A Föld állatai
Zöld – A víz állatai
Kék – Az ég állatai.

This is correct, it is referred to elsewhere.
I don't understand why the earth/brown is at the top, since normally earth/brown would be at the bottom, water in the middle and air at the top.

 

[ryirkil]

The colors represent:
Brown - Animals of the earth
Green - Animals of the water
Blue - Animals of the sky.
These are explained on the site above. I would guess this information is correct even though utterly pointless.

Can confirm.

By the way, as far as I know, there is no official zoo flag. The zoo community never invented and adopted its own flag.

How would that work anyway? Some voting? Where? The latter flag was definitely widely accepted and the alt is circling around a lot for some reason.

 

[MashaSobaka]

How would that work anyway? Some voting?

I dont know. How were LGBT flags accepted?

I like this brown earth/water/air flag anyway. Only the zeta sign is replaced with paw.

 

[pes]

Only the zeta sign is replaced with paw.

No, that is not inclusive enough why should only canines be on the flag?

 

[originalnamehere]

No, that is not inclusive enough why should only canines be on the flag?

I say we put a dinosaur foot on it. Just to confuse people.

 

[ryirkil]

I like this brown earth/water/air flag anyway. Only the zeta sign is replaced with paw.

Yea, I guess it's more accurate to say we have our colors rather than a flag, since those are in common. And the explanation behind them is nice.

 

[pes]

I say we put a dinosaur foot on it. Just to confuse people.

Absolutely.