Online Security

[pes]

Windows 11 with the Recall feature becomes a nightmare.

This Hacker Tool Extracts All the Data Collected by Windowsâ New Recall AI

Windows Recall takes a screenshot every five seconds. Cybersecurity researchers say the system is simple to abuse—and one ethical hacker has already built a tool to show how easy it really is.

www.wired.com

It logs your browser history, screenshots, command line, documents, filenames, emails, personal conversations...
Even if you are not hacked, this information is available to anyone with physical access to your computer unencrypted.

 

[UR20Z]

Windows 11 with the Recall feature becomes a nightmare.

This Hacker Tool Extracts All the Data Collected by Windowsâ New Recall AI

Windows Recall takes a screenshot every five seconds. Cybersecurity researchers say the system is simple to abuse—and one ethical hacker has already built a tool to show how easy it really is.

www.wired.com

It logs your browser history, screenshots, command line, documents, filenames, emails, personal conversations...
Even if you are not hacked, this information is available to anyone with physical access to your computer unencrypted.

Gotta love them obligatory "improvements" that keep getting foisted on us, huh? Thankfully, I don't do Windows, but even here in Mac-land, we've got a few things that I'd dearly love to slap the shit out of somebody over. Nothing (that I know of yet, anyway...) approaching this level of incompetence, but still changes purely for the sake of change that do absolutely nothing to enhance the user experience, and in a couple of cases, actively make things more difficult.

 

[nastybastard666]

Windows 11 with the Recall feature becomes a nightmare.

This Hacker Tool Extracts All the Data Collected by Windowsâ New Recall AI

Windows Recall takes a screenshot every five seconds. Cybersecurity researchers say the system is simple to abuse—and one ethical hacker has already built a tool to show how easy it really is.

www.wired.com

It logs your browser history, screenshots, command line, documents, filenames, emails, personal conversations...
Even if you are not hacked, this information is available to anyone with physical access to your computer unencrypted.

Yeah I'd heard of that "feature" and no thank you. I avoided Win11 like the plague because they took away the "never combine windows" option for the taskbar, at least until the 23H2 update. Even now I won't switch over until Windows 10 goes EOL, because I've just gotten 10 neutered enough to be acceptable from a security and privacy standpoint (at least for normal daily non-sensitive tasks, like gaming or email, not this forum level of sensitive). I really don't want to have to re-STIG everything, I do enough of that shit in my professional life.

 

[Kristy]

It logs your browser history, screenshots, command line, documents, filenames, emails, personal conversations...
Even if you are not hacked, this information is available to anyone with physical access to your computer unencrypted.

Hasn't all that always been available for anyone who knows where to look in your computer, even if you keep history, etc. cleaned out? Or is Windows 11 worse than that?

 

[pes]

This feature is worse.

 

[foalmaker]

Even now I won't switch over until Windows 10 goes EOL

Personally, if I were a regular computer user I would not switch over to such an intrusive piece of software when my current one became EOLed. Specially because nowadays you have so many alternatives. It is not the 90s anymore.

 

[Kristy]

What kind of security do people here use? Thinking VPN and Tor Browser

Many people, all of whom know a lot more about such things than I do, have told me you're putting yourself in jeopardy by using both of those together. You should scroll up a little and read this:
https://www.zoovilleforum.net/threads/online-security.1275/post-2533517

 

[Kristy]

Bad news: Using TOR and VPN together can (not "will", but can) trigger a couple of conditions that effectively destroys ALL protection from EITHER. VPN folks won't tell you this, but TOR folks will. I don't pretend to understand the "how" of it, but peopel I have reason to believe have said many times that VPN+TOR=serious (and easily exploited) potential for your supposedly "private" data to leak to even casual attackers. Against a government entity with (effectively) unlimited funding, using a VPN into TOR is slightly less secure than the screen door on your front porch - Yeah, it'll keep the flies and skeeters outside, but it ain't gonna do a damned thing to stop the rottie that decides to jump through it, or the crook who wants to rob you...

I've heard that many times. It's good advice for anyone thinking multiple layers will be better.

 

[Kristy]

This feature is worse.

Thanks. I make sure I read what is contained in every Windows update before allowing it. Windows 11 has been sent a time or two, and I will keep refusing it. 10 is working fine. I don't need their perceived improvements in 11. In addition, there are also the problems you mentioned.

 

[Kristy]

Personally, if I were a regular computer user I would not switch over to such an intrusive piece of software when my current one became EOLed. Specially because nowadays you have so many alternatives. It is not the 90s anymore.

"So many alternatives" to Windows for an operating system? Other than Apple and Linux, what are they? And don't try to tell me your phone is an alternative.

 

[foalmaker]

"So many alternatives" to Windows for an operating system? Other than Apple and Linux, what are they? And don't try to tell me your phone is an alternative.

There are three major BSD Operating Systems (FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD). Notice they are independent Operating Systems by their own merits and rights - whereas Linux distributions are technically different builds of the same Operating System.

I mean, seriously, if you want to use a non Microsoft Operating System on domestic computer hardware, you have:

* 160+ Linux distributions confirmed active, tailored for desktop ussage.
* Apple.
* 3 BSD Operating Systems ( and that is without including the smaller BSDs, such as DragonflyBSD, nor the spinoffs).

This does not include the real exotic stuff such as OpenIndiana (which is a de facto continuation of Solaris). It is not like we are starved of choices.

And yes, I have seen people link a smartphone to a monitor and use it as a general computing platform, or execute mobile Operating Systems on regular tabletop computers. Not that I recommend that.

 

[Knutshack]

I've heard that many times. It's good advice for anyone thinking multiple layers will be better.

I used to think that, now I've thought again, thanks for the advice ?

 

[moanerbttm]

When I was younger and dumber I would just straight up google horse dicks with no VPN/encryption lol.

I use TOR browser for anything Zoo related now but I don't have dedicated VPN like Nord. Will I be fine for the most part just using an encrypted browser like TOR for browsing ZV?.

Thanks for the info.

Thanks for this tip, I have Nord VPN but never thought to use the TOR browser...now I am so thank you!

 

[nastybastard666]

I've heard that many times. It's good advice for anyone thinking multiple layers will be better.

Normally I am in favor of a layered defense. Tor + VPN is not one of them. Honestly the best, most unattributable system is to use a chain of VPNs, all purchased via Bitcoin or other unattributable means (e.g., gift cards), and that chain then discarded once you are done. But that's beyond the reach of most of us unwashed poors.

 

[nastybastard666]

I mean, seriously, if you want to use a non Microsoft Operating System on domestic computer hardware, you have:

* 160+ Linux distributions confirmed active, tailored for desktop ussage.
* Apple.
* 3 BSD Operating Systems ( and that is without including the smaller BSDs, such as DragonflyBSD, nor the spinoffs).

Yeah but Apple is basically, in a nutshell, BSD with the serial numbers filed off, the odometer rolled back, and a fresh coat of paint slapped on.

 

[trther]

Good info, thx.

 

[Fit2BTied]

I appreciate this thread. Gonna up my security game.

 

[frankiesmsss]

good info, I use VPN thx

 

[ILoveFemaleGSD's]

Yeah, I use NordVPN because it is pretty fast for a VPN and it does it's job

 

[SovetskiyKozel]

I accidently outed myself back in the 90,s
I used my real name and e-mail on a Zoo related USENET newsgroup.
Talking about all kinds of Animal related Sex and looking for friends that shared the same desires.
I Did not think, that anyone could really find me on there. I was Young and Dumb!
But I found one day while I was at work, Someone had copied all my postings and hung them up on the bulletin board at work.
Did I get beat up? Hell No, I was a Big guy, they were not about to try messing with me.
Did I get shunned and called names behind my Back? Of Course I did!
Did I care? Fuck No! I Played into it even more and looked for raunchy sounding T-shirts to wear at work, to just piss them off more.
I found a shirt from a rock Band that said "GOAT WHORE" The looks that got me
And I had lettering on the back of my truck that said "I LOVE BEARS" Fuck those mundane Humans, Im not going to be shamed. In fact I never felt SHAME, that's something that religion pounds into you.
So do I care if anyone finds that Im on this site? Hell No they can all just Suck a fart outta my Ass.
Im never going to change who I am, Nor going to hide what I am.
My Room-mates know, My Current Co-Workers kinda have an idea.
Even My Sister Knows. And Total Strangers I could Care less about. I Don't know them, So why should I even care what they think.
And anyone who tries to cause me bodily harm will end up on the business end of a Gun, So Be it.

 

[SovetskiyKozel]

My Co-Workers also Know that Im a Nudist and live with 2 other Gay Male Nudists and our Dog,
Surprisingly none of them ever want to come over for a Beer hahahaha

 

[Lesman]

My Co-Workers also Know that Im a Nudist and live with 2 other Gay Male Nudists and our Dog,
Surprisingly none of them ever want to come over for a Beer hahahaha

A beet sound good, what's your choice of beer

 

[JohnMax]

wow, thanks to all the technical folk on this thread Plenty for me to think about. I’ve never really worried to much if others find out what porn I’ve been watching, until the past little while. Canadian if that helps. I do not have a computer, only use an iphone (safari browser, clean cache/history) use proton mail and nord. I very rarely download to my device and am careful who I share pics with. I want to say basically a ‘lurker’ but that may change in the future perhaps. In your recommendations, is there a few other things I should be doing on my iPhone to be more secure? I generally don’t consider my viewing habits that interesting to others haha but seems like a lot of knowledge here that I am not familiar with.

 

[huvvard]

Good advice all around. Good to keep in mind.

In fact it can not be easier.
Download it.
Put it on a flash disk.
Boot it.

Does tails run as slowly as tor?

I accidently outed myself back in the 90,s
I used my real name and e-mail on a Zoo related USENET newsgroup.
Talking about all kinds of Animal related Sex and looking for friends that shared the same desires.
I Did not think, that anyone could really find me on there. I was Young and Dumb!
But I found one day while I was at work, Someone had copied all my postings and hung them up on the bulletin board at work.
Did I get beat up? Hell No, I was a Big guy, they were not about to try messing with me.
Did I get shunned and called names behind my Back? Of Course I did!
Did I care? Fuck No! I Played into it even more and looked for raunchy sounding T-shirts to wear at work, to just piss them off more.
I found a shirt from a rock Band that said "GOAT WHORE" The looks that got me
And I had lettering on the back of my truck that said "I LOVE BEARS" Fuck those mundane Humans, Im not going to be shamed. In fact I never felt SHAME, that's something that religion pounds into you.
So do I care if anyone finds that Im on this site? Hell No they can all just Suck a fart outta my Ass.
Im never going to change who I am, Nor going to hide what I am.
My Room-mates know, My Current Co-Workers kinda have an idea.
Even My Sister Knows. And Total Strangers I could Care less about. I Don't know them, So why should I even care what they think.
And anyone who tries to cause me bodily harm will end up on the business end of a Gun, So Be it.

More power to you!

I mean... it's part of a decent security strategy. You don't want to rely on any one thing to protect yourself. Multi-layer security is the key. Non-logging VPN, non-tracking search engine, privacy-focused browser... those are must-haves. Me, I kinda go overboard... I do all my questionable activities within a Linux virtual machine, because I do not trust any non-open-source operating system to not report back to the mother-ship, and it's pretty easy to nuke a virtual machine, since the virtual hard drive is just another file on your system... delete the file, empty Recycle Bin, and wipe the free space on the HD. Then again, what I do for a living... I kinda know some of the tricks of the trade

Why a VM over tails?

 

[pes]

Does tails run as slowly as tor?

It is the same network, so yes.

 

[lockeliberal]

My Co-Workers also Know that Im a Nudist and live with 2 other Gay Male Nudists and our Dog,
Surprisingly none of them ever want to come over for a Beer hahahaha

So what does it mean when their name is black, and can't be clicked?

 

[pes]

So what does it mean when their name is black, and can't be clicked?

Deleted account.

 

[lockeliberal]

Deleted account.

I wanted to ask him how his meet up in AZ went. Did he give a reason why?

 

[pes]

I wanted to ask him how his meet up in AZ went. Did he give a reason why?

He did not like the social environment of the forum.

 

[lockeliberal]

Okay I was worried he got got. I remember him talking about doing some sort of meet up in AZ.