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My Fellow Americans

you literally went for the easiest, most obvious country as "we're totally better than them".... pointless to try to explain how it makes you look.
But I thought everyone was "free like the usa ppl" you asked a question and got a factual answer and now you're upset about it. I think I'd be more concerned about how you look.
 
But I thought everyone was "free like the usa ppl" you asked a question and got a factual answer and now you're upset about it. I think I'd be more concerned about how you look.
you not seeing what i ment makes it almost painfully funny. i asked you "which ppl" and you went straight for the worst of the worst as your "see? we're free" answer, proving my point. everyone has it better than north koreans, do we all go around proclaiming how free we are?
Nope, but I don't keep myself from being who I am because of the law.
meaning you don't do "zoo-ey" things in private? or you do, because of the law?
 
you not seeing what i ment makes it almost painfully funny. i asked you "which ppl" and you went straight for the worst of the worst as your "see? we're free" answer, proving my point. everyone has it better than north koreans, do we all go around proclaiming how free we are?

meaning you don't do "zoo-ey" things in private? or you do, because of the law?
You just went for the easiest subject to try to take a stab at me with. Are you attending any zoo pride events? I didn't think so. But I do show my girl love in public anyway if that's what you're asking. Nobody goes out and has sex in the street. Using zoo against another zoo? Now that's low.
 
If no one had any sense of pride for their flag and home it would be a sad life. As for chest bumps, how else do keep the morale and willingness to fight for the guy on the left and right?
"Why" are you fighting?, "who are you fighting"?
A Revolution is when you know your enemy
A war is when your Gov't tells you who your enemy is.
Read: War Is A Racket by Maj. General Smedley Darlington Butler
The Gov't is just a capitalists' regime your pride and self worth
doesn't come from a flag, doesn't come from Gov't or anyone else telling you
what you should be proud of, are you not proud of your accomplishments
without a letter from your representative telling you how good you did
and do you get a letter thanking you for all your taxes you give a bunch of baboons
that squander it on B.S.
 
You guys are all missing the part where I said I don't give a sh!t about the government... I'm not even disagreeing with you about the 5 rich families either. But I will say those 5 families have yet to come to my door and tell me what to do. Again, I wouldn't listen if they did.
The 5 family's are the rule makers and shakers
Read: "War is a Racket", this short 79 page book put's it all in perspective
 
You just went for the easiest subject to try to take a stab at me with. Are you attending any zoo pride events? I didn't think so. But I do show my girl love in public anyway if that's what you're asking. Nobody goes out and has sex in the street. Using zoo against another zoo? Now that's low.
i went for the easiest subject? you're the one who started both "we americans have it better than other ppl" and "being a zoo makes me more free than most" i just rolled with it..
what i did (and i mean really did, not your projections) is ask you what being "free" means to you and if non-americans are not "free" in your eyes. while also giving a few examples why you aren't "the bestest, free-est country in the world" (you know the medical/measurement systems you just glossed over because they didn't fit your narrative?) and your little "i totally have values i chose on my own and wasn't raised into them so i'm free" illusion explained that a page ago.

as for zoo prides, i probably wouldn't attend even if they were a thing. i don't believe in meaningless pride (meaning pride in things one has no control over). if there was a "got to a point in life to be able to own a house" pride event, i totally would attend.
 
Look, for what it's worth I didn't come in here to "spew talk about how free I am" or argue with anyone. All I said was it's ok to love your country and I have my own value system. You're only as oppressed as you let yourself be. I never said I was any better than anyone else. I never said my country was better than anyone else's either. You asked for an example of a place where you could go to jail for free speach against laws or country, not somewhere less free than the US. I just used disobeying zoo laws as an example of being free. Don't put words in my mouth now, because you up and attacked the medical system and measurements here unprovoked. I can see you like your country too though you don't shout it out so to speak and I respect that. I respect your opinions as well. Pissing matches get nobody anywhere.

What is freedom to me? Living how I want, no matter who hates me for it or says I can't do it. Which is all I've been trying to say here.

As far as the "got to a point in life to be able to own a house" pride event, that I can get behind. ✌️
 
What is freedom to me? Living how I want, no matter who hates me for it or says I can't do it. Which is all I've been trying to say here.
You can do that in every country, regardless of what governmental "freedoms" you're "entitled" to. Even if the government oppresses something you can still live your life how you want, just don't get caught. Conversly, even if you're "free" to live a certain way by government say so doesn't mean someone outside the government won't take issue with it and use their "freedom" to make your life worse than an oppressing goverment would.

To quote Starship Troopers, which if you've never read the book, is basically 1984 In Space:

“Ah, yes, the "unalienable rights." Each year someone quotes that magnificent poetry. Life? What "right" to life has a man who is drowning in the Pacific? The ocean will not hearken to his cries. What "right" to life has a man who must die if he is to save his children? If he chooses to save his own life, does he do so as a matter of "right"? If two men are starving and cannibalism is the only alternative to death, which man's right is "unalienable"? And is it "right"? As to liberty, the heroes who signed the great document pledged themselves to buy liberty with their lives. Liberty is never unalienable; it must be redeemed regularly with the blood of patriots or it always vanishes. Of all the so-called natural human rights that have ever been invented, liberty is least likely to be cheap and is never free of cost. The third "right"? - the "pursuit of happiness"? It is indeed unalienable but it is not a right; it is simply a universal condition which tyrants cannot take away nor patriots restore. Cast me into a dungeon, burn me at the stake, crown me king of kings, I can "pursue happiness" as long as my brain lives - but neither gods nor saints, wise men nor subtle drugs, can insure that I will catch it.”​

Freedom is an illusion. Change "pursuit of happiness" to "freedom" in that quote and it reads the same.
 
blind hatred vs blind patriotism discussions are always a fun read. well, "i'm proud about something i had no control over" ppl, too.

even tho i have no stakes in this, these two sentences are just too absurd to not further question. what does this "free" thing even mean to you? are "not-from-usa" ppl not "free" in your eyes? why do most usa ppl seem to be obsessed with spewing how "free" they are?
you do realize you guys still have the worst medical system (and still call yourselves a first world country) in the world? not to mention the stupid measurement system you still use or how you write dates.. is that what your "free" is? free to go bankrupt from medical bills and measure stuff in elbows or whatever?

Freedom is not free...............you are correct about that but if you work hard enough you earn that freedom.

I live in the USA and I am free to walk out of my front door and go pretty much anywhere in my country that I want to go to and free to do pretty much anything I want to do.

Nothing is indeed free...........................you have to work for it and earn it. No one gives us anything.

One of the biggest problems with people in the USA is that there are too many that expect something for free and they think themselves to be entitled to it without working for it and earning it.

Freedom is an expression here it's not a literal thing that is just given out in gift baskets.
 
Look, for what it's worth I didn't come in here to "spew talk about how free I am" or argue with anyone. All I said was it's ok to love your country and I have my own value system. You're only as oppressed as you let yourself be. I never said I was any better than anyone else. I never said my country was better than anyone else's either. You asked for an example of a place where you could go to jail for free speach against laws or country, not somewhere less free than the US. I just used disobeying zoo laws as an example of being free. Don't put words in my mouth now, because you up and attacked the medical system and measurements here unprovoked. I can see you like your country too though you don't shout it out so to speak and I respect that. I respect your opinions as well. Pissing matches get nobody anywhere.

What is freedom to me? Living how I want, no matter who hates me for it or says I can't do it. Which is all I've been trying to say here.

As far as the "got to a point in life to be able to own a house" pride event, that I can get behind. ✌️
You'll never win any argument with trolls but I'd agree with you 100% on all counts. Those who live in the proverbial dumpster fire in life try to spread hate and misery onto others to bring them down to their level. Misery loves company ya know. ??
 
You'll never win any argument with trolls but I'd agree with you 100% on all counts. Those who live in the proverbial dumpster fire in life try to spread hate and misery onto others to bring them down to their level. Misery loves company ya know. ??
I find the DF to be quite entertaining. Hard to believe some of the views I read. Some real wackos out there.
 
You'll never win any argument with trolls but I'd agree with you 100% on all counts. Those who live in the proverbial dumpster fire in life try to spread hate and misery onto others to bring them down to their level. Misery loves company ya know. ??
Im sure it does....so of course we're glad to have you and all the rest of the babblers helping to muddy the puddle. ?
 
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