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Is it okay to have sex with an animal you don’t own?

Last I saw him I was 11. Made me very self sufficient by 9 years old . Shooting, skinning, fishing and all the awesome stuff that not a single kid now knows and would die the second day out in the woods alone. Hell, die in a day in his own home, if mama left or died. Sad world it is now. But who gives a fuck about them. I know I'm fine.
 
UR20Z said:
If you think I'm gonna apologize for, or retract what I said, you're *SERIOUSLY* barking up the wrong tree, son. Expect NOTHING BUT hostility to the idea of fence-hopping - regardless of how horny you are - from anybody here who isn't part of the "drooling wanker with dick in hand" brigade.

I'm actually surprised that nobody else has walloped you. Likely, few people have noticed your post - yet. Typically, such a question gets the poster metaphorically skinned alive, then rolled in salt and vinegar. That isn't completely out of the question, even now - Don't be surprised if you take even worse as people start noticing your post.

Tip: *THINK* before you post. The saying "The internet never forgets" is a true one. It also rarely, if ever, forgives.

Yeah, I get that you're all excited that you've found "folks like me". We've *ALL* been there. Some of us figured out real quick to actually *THINK* instead of just throwing our mouth into high-gear and posting whatever comes spewing out. Those who didn't quickly fall by the
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While I could expend the energy required to defend myself here, I simply do not have the same drive to argue with strangers on the internet when all they have a pension for is insulting those around them. You may continue on with your immaturity into perpetuity. I’m not wasting my energy on the likes of you.
 
WolfLoverX said:
While I could expend the energy required to defend myself here, I simply do not have the same drive to argue with strangers on the internet when all they have a pension for is insulting those around them. You may continue on with your immaturity into perpetuity. I’m not wasting my energy on the likes of you.
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Awwww... I hurted the poor widdle wannabe fencehopper's feelz by telling him the truth about how such activity is viewed around here, and now he says he won't play wif me no more... Whatever shall I do?!?!? How can I ever recover?
 
UR20Z said:
Methinks you likely meant exactly the opposite - He asked "Would it be morally wrong..."

Or are you referencing something else that I can't figure out since you didn't bother to quote anything to give some context?
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i just answered the question given in the title and used your post as reasons why since i'm mostly sure i would've typed out pretty much the same thing.
 
It's a controversial topic in this community, my personal take is that it's ok so long as the animal wants it as well but I understand that for some it's a huge no
 
Steven Raccoon said:
My grandpa always had his shotgun loaded and leaning right on the doorframe. He has shot at a few stragglers "wandering" onto his property. I miss the old fart.
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Non lethal rounds, I hope? Firing lethal rounds at somebody just for wandering onto your property is definitely illegal everywhere in the USA. You would have to have reason to believe they are threatening your life before lethal force would be an acceptable and legal response.
I'm actually not even sure firing the non lethal rounds would be legal, but if not it certainly wouldn't get you the kind of time you'd be looking at for attempted murder. If you've got trespassers, tell them to leave and let the police sort them out if they don't. You can keep a gun handy just in case, but don't even point it at them unless they are being threatening (yes they can get you charged with assault in some cases)
 
Iffy subject to me. Bear in mind my opinions are specifically in the case the owner doesn't know.

I'll say if it's a dog - No. Those are pets to some people. They belong to people. They're those people's baby in some cases.

Horse(or nearly any large farm animal) - I think it's fine. You aren't going to hurt it, if it doesn't want you you'll know.
 
Jmmp2803 said:
It's a controversial topic in this community, my personal take is that it's ok so long as the animal wants it as well but I understand that for some it's a huge no
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yeah there were some people that jumped down my throat about it but I was only asking a question??‍♂️I didn’t say I planned on doing it so I appreciate you being chill
 
WolfLoverX said:
yeah there were some people that jumped down my throat about it but I was only asking a question??‍♂️I didn’t say I planned on doing it so I appreciate you being chill
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Yeah but I meant like in general. What you’d be doing is trespassing which I definitely don’t agree with.
 
amorousdog5 said:
Non lethal rounds, I hope? Firing lethal rounds at somebody just for wandering onto your property is definitely illegal everywhere in the USA. You would have to have reason to believe they are threatening your life before lethal force would be an acceptable and legal response.
I'm actually not even sure firing the non lethal rounds would be legal, but if not it certainly wouldn't get you the kind of time you'd be looking at for attempted murder. If you've got trespassers, tell them to leave and let the police sort them out if they don't. You can keep a gun handy just in case, but don't even point it at them unless they are being threatening (yes they can get you charged with assault in some cases)
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Oh, blow it out of your ass. Or maybe don't, anything that comes out of your ass is probably lethal. Lol. Only way the law will know is if you open your mouth.

The murder clearance rate was below 50% in 2020. I think 50-50 chance of getting away with it is a fairly good chance of getting rid of a pest.

Source: Murder clearance rate
 
WolfLoverX said:
yeah there were some people that jumped down my throat about it but I was only asking a question??‍♂️I didn’t say I planned on doing it so I appreciate you being chill
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Hey objectively speaking... You shouldn't do it... If you got no rights of guardianship or ways to pay for their bills as well as other extras (yes goes for both male/female variants) and if the animal misbehaves or is altered in behavior you won't deal with the person mainly caring for them will... If injury happens that's when the owner becomes liable even when it's the human's fault who infringed on the animals rights. (personally depending on circumstances). And this is a neutral speak.

Morally speaking: it's wrong since you don't have the owner's/guardian's blessings of such a action. However it would be more "moral" to find work there to help around the place if you feel fascinated with the stallion to well bond no more or less (this part is my subjective thoughts)

Personally between me and you: I don't blame your urges however be sure everyone is safe as well as consenting. This part is said as a "just in case it happens" policy. But you make your choices. But I don't believe in lethality of trespassing however... I would definitely feel that way if my past mate was well... Done things without my knowledge or consent.

Take it how you will I'm saying this in a non biased fashion.
 
WolfLoverX said:
I want to start by saying that going behind people’s backs is wrong, however I have been attracted to stallions my entire life (I’m 23M). A new family bought my dad’s old house two doors down and today they brought a beautiful black stallion home and are likely going to repair the fence my father built around the pasture. Would it be morally wrong if I snuck over at night and gave him treats and spent time with him in the hopes of one day having sex with him?
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Ultimitly i would say yes. This is wrong for many reasons. Sneaking on to your neighbor's property to give the horse treats and build a relationship. You can get in trouble for that still even if your intentions were completely wholesome. But lets say you get away with that for some time and get caught in the act. You are gambling with a lot of variables with this.

Hopefully you can find a better way that wont put yourself at risk of getting in trouble. ?
 
WolfLoverX said:
I want to start by saying that going behind people’s backs is wrong, however I have been attracted to stallions my entire life (I’m 23M). A new family bought my dad’s old house two doors down and today they brought a beautiful black stallion home and are likely going to repair the fence my father built around the pasture. Would it be morally wrong if I snuck over at night and gave him treats and spent time with him in the hopes of one day having sex with him?
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Developing a strong emotional bond between you two is leaps and bounds more important than sex. In fact, I personally find it problematic that your end goal is to have sex with him.

@Mare Lover 1975 would agree with me on this. As would my boyfriend.
 
Steven Raccoon said:
Oh, blow it out of your ass. Or maybe don't, anything that comes out of your ass is probably lethal. Lol. Only way the law will know is if you open your mouth.

The murder clearance rate was below 50% in 2020. I think 50-50 chance of getting away with it is a fairly good chance of getting rid of a pest.

Source: Murder clearance rate
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Even assuming you place no value on any human life other than your own, a 50% chance to essentially end your own life just because you're impatient and don't want to do things legally still sounds like the absolute pinnacle of stupidity.
 
Yada yada. Just step on my property. Unfortunately, you'll never know if I was one of the murder cases that was solved or not.
 
Yada yada. Just show the fuck up and you'll find out that I'm the real deal. And that's all I'm going to say.
amorousdog5 said:
More likely I'd find out you're a blowhard who's more comfortable boasting in a consequence free online environment.

But as you say, we'll never know :gsd_happysmile:
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Steven Raccoon said:
Oh, blow it out of your ass. Or maybe don't, anything that comes out of your ass is probably lethal. Lol. Only way the law will know is if you open your mouth.

The murder clearance rate was below 50% in 2020. I think 50-50 chance of getting away with it is a fairly good chance of getting rid of a pest.

Source: Murder clearance rate
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If it was a pest sure, but that's a person. Murder can be sometimes necessary in very extreme situations but it's never something that should be taken lightly
 
People don't mean shit to me. They're the worst organisms nature has made. Just hope nature realizes that before it's too late and remedies it Just animals are worth everything. That's all. Can't convince me otherwise. So you'll just waste your time responding in that topic.
 
WolfLoverX said:
I want to start by saying that going behind people’s backs is wrong, however I have been attracted to stallions my entire life (I’m 23M). A new family bought my dad’s old house two doors down and today they brought a beautiful black stallion home and are likely going to repair the fence my father built around the pasture. Would it be morally wrong if I snuck over at night and gave him treats and spent time with him in the hopes of one day having sex with him?
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Yes, wrong, for many reasons in many ways. A "beautiful black stallion," is it? They're going protect that expensive horse by any means necessary, and rightly so. That's IF that spirited stallion doesn't stomp you or kick you to death as a figure who's approached him in the dark of night.
As for the owner, as I would be if I were him, if you're found here at night, you won't be found here in the morning.
 
UR20Z said:
Awwww... I hurted the poor widdle wannabe fencehopper's feelz by telling him the truth about how such activity is viewed around here, and now he says he won't play wif me no more... Whatever shall I do?!?!? How can I ever recover?
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There there...I'm sure another fencehopper will come along. They always do, each one dumb enough to think, "I can make friends with the pretty horsie, fool him with snacks into thinking we're friends! And then! And then! He'll let me play with his peener!"
These people get more and more stupid.
 
If I'm going to weigh in on fence-hopping here, I would say it's wrong. Assuming I had horses, and I found a trespasser having sex with them, I would definitely end that person's life by shooting them.

...with a camera. Turn over a few candids of him fucking a horse to the police. They get registered as a sex offender, a few years in prison, and shunned by polite society for the rest of their existence. Depending on your state it could also be perfectly legal to upload those photos online since they gave away their right to privacy by being naked and doing sexual things on your property (also fair game if they do it in public). Just have to watch out in the few states that have "Revenge Porn" laws with language that doesn't care about right to privacy.
 
The thing is, shagging animals that do not belong to you could be dangerous to the traspasser and more importantly the animals themselves. There's just no way of knowing their quirks, back story and medical history. Have they been "fixed" ? Do they have any allergies or need some special or strict diet? Are they currently treated for some condition and need to stay calm? Are they rescues that at some point have been abused and will react defensive or aggressive in some situations? The list goes on…
There's also the risk of security cameras or getting caught by a very disgruntled owner who'll rip the intruder into pieces.

Morally, I don't think it's okay to do it. I want all the best for my girl and I'd never let anyone near her if I cannot be absolutely certain they know her and threat her with the utmost care and respect.
 
UR20Z said:
Unless you have permission from the owner(s), yes. Anything else is a real good way to get shot. Further, what you're asking is "is it OK for me to fence-hop?" Not a good idea around here - Unless, of course, you're looking to get jumped on with both feet by most of the folks here who are worth more than a wet fart...
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From this standpoint, I agree, it's really dangerous and could get you in a lot of trouble.

As a general idea, it depends on the situation. It goes back to whether or not the animal consents basically; just like how you wouldn't swing with an unwilling human partner, you gotta check with the animal too, see how they respond.
 
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