How many REAL female zoolovers are in here?
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SatyrNymph
Tourist
I'm female but I'm under no obligation to prove that to anyone ? I lurk quite a lot because (shocking revelation) I'm actually quite shy ?
As a female, I have to sift through false owner claims GALORE ... We all have our struggles ?
Stormkat70
Tourist
There are people who live on the internet? I'm shocked to my very core. The perceived anonymity of the web has bred things like this, it existed before, but was a bit harder to get away with. Let's face it, a lot of people get off on doing it. If I were female, I probably wouldn't want to throw it out there in much of the web.
No you are not but as you have experienced this place works like a magnet on scammers..
Therefor why not prove you arent one of them? Isnt it tirering to sort out who has a dog and who has not eventhough they say they have.. ?Im not talking about showing a picture with face and driver license but a chest picture with a note with some details.. Everything can be faked and photoshopped but not many have the gift to make it so it cant be seen.
I really sense im alone in this thread and people dont care..
The reason is what i think pretty much because people are here to fap or wank .. Its a shame to waste other peoples time who takes it more serious and are not here to (just) fap.
But you are right you dont have to prove anything and can do exactly as it pleases
Mooster
Tourist
I am a woman, new to the site too. However, to throw trap (gamer term) around and spouting proof is idiotic. You can't prove you're worth the interest. To treat it as order is a turn off to women, in general, anyways and to do it on a forum where this type of sexuality is, at best, frowned upon in public is asinine. Before you're flagging and that "you're a dude", I've already shown without shame or corrosion. ?
Oh my.. You got hit hard ..
I really dont see whats idiotic in a place where people are who they really are and not who they pretend to be..
You gonna survive dear?
Im really most into honest people..
Mooster
Tourist
Survive what?? People are here from unsure to knowing taboo sex information, friending, and ect. You're coming out questioning strangers their gender (lie or not) without need nor want. What do you think you'll get out of it, seriously?? Free new pussy pics to choke your "little boy" to? Honest people get irritated and worse at needlessly proving rituals of a stupid presumption. It's hard enough to be judged by the norms of society but here? Do you think you're good enough to judge?Oh my.. You got hit hard ..
I really dont see whats idiotic in a place where people are who they really are and not who they pretend to be..
You gonna survive dear?
Im really most into honest people..
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UR20Z
Dumpster Diver
Get over yourself, kid. You wanna hunt human pussy, more power to you. But don't expect that the folks here, male, female, or whatever, give a fuck with a broke dick about pleasing you.
Similarly, you don't get to dictate who does and doesn't respond, or what the responses will be. Welcome to reality. It ain't always what you want it to be. Get yourself a crash helmet and get over it.
Around 80 percent are here to fap, and on occasion that includes me. But I'm actually here for the community also - I enjoy beast sex and other people's experiences, even without the fapping. Also love the stories, chatting sometimes, and just being on here.No you are not but as you have experienced this place works like a magnet on scammers..
Im not talking about showing a picture with face and driver license but a chest picture with a note with some details.. Everything can be faked and photoshopped but not many have the gift to make it so it cant be seen.
I really sense im alone in this thread and people dont care..
The reason is what i think pretty much because people are here to fap or wank .. Its a shame to waste other peoples time who takes it more serious and are not here to (just) fap.
But you are right you dont have to prove anything and can do exactly as it pleases
SatyrNymph
Tourist
"Can do exactly as IT pleases"? ? Wow!No you are not but as you have experienced this place works like a magnet on scammers..
Im not talking about showing a picture with face and driver license but a chest picture with a note with some details.. Everything can be faked and photoshopped but not many have the gift to make it so it cant be seen.
I really sense im alone in this thread and people dont care..
The reason is what i think pretty much because people are here to fap or wank .. Its a shame to waste other peoples time who takes it more serious and are not here to (just) fap.
But you are right you dont have to prove anything and can do exactly as it pleases
There's nothing in this world that would compel me to prove shit to an aggressively entitled individual such as yourself. What have you done to deserve a "chest shot", or any other kind of shot?
Try making connections, stop worrying about scammers (because, quite frankly, if you're having trouble spotting them, you're letting your pee-pee do the thinking ... Maybe don't do that). This level of entitlement, like we're here specifically for YOU, is incredibly off putting.
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BlueBeard
Guest
Talked a little more with my wife about the topic, guys online asking for proof that people (women, to be specific) are "real." Here's the insights (since she won't come on herself, wagged her head no again):
1. "Bothers *you* more than me, evidently" (saying it to me, her husband -- as if *I* ever overreact. Cha right).
2. She just ignores guys like this. Doesn't answer them. Imagines most women are like her in that regard.
3. Does recall one or two other women in groups we've belonged to that seemed to like the attention. I remembered their names; she did not.
4. Guys who post they need proof seem to attract fake profiles. (Hey... kinda makes sense! Explained below.)
5. Main insight? It's a doozy:
"Guys like that come online looking for 'real women' because they're not meeting real women in real life. Kind of a red flag, if women in real life are avoiding them."
Never bothered her, though. She had never belonged to the groups for the chance to meet up with "unlucky men." Their profiles and their postings had nothing in them to interest her. She ignored them all together.
She only ever interacted with male members who, like her, were enjoying the benefits of belonging to an online community. In her opinion, guys like Curious78 should probably expect to be as unsuccessful hooking up with real women *here* as they were with real women *out there*.
Last thing, though, is from me again, not her. My suggestion to other guys hoping to meet a suitable heterosexual zoo companion is to be more like Pillar, maybe? He doesn't come here with demands that our XX members give him documented chromosomal proof of their biological female authenticity. He just takes part in the community, learns who people are and engages with them. Who is who or into what, that shakes out in time.
I'm guessing most of that is just that he's a decent guy, kind of civilized, you know. Upstanding. (*waves arms at women members, gestures toward Pillar*... Hey, dude -- wingman, right here, buddy. )
Learn the person first. So many, many members here are actually worth interacting with, regardless of gender or sexual preferences or backgrounds. AND YES, a good many of them are indeed "female-assigned-at-birth" folks who will drop the "gender wall" to openly discuss their opinions and their sexuality with anyone who's honestly interested in them.
Poor form to demand first to know their cup size or whether they have ovaries:
"Um, no offense, but just to make sure you're not a complete waste of my time, I'm going to need to see your uterus."
(Waits while MD inspects uterus. Then gets second opinion. Twice confirmed, yet still hedging. "Might be a fake woman still. Could be an implant. So hard to tell.")
If the member *was* born with ovaries instead of testicles, let them volunteer that information to you. Let your trust have time to build up. Don't demand proof of that up front.
You're in Zooville. You're already in the right place to encounter such a person. Let it happen. This isn't a fast-food drive-up lane where you get to order what you want, hold the pickles, hold the testes. It's have a seat, peruse the menu while I get you a drink.
1. "Bothers *you* more than me, evidently" (saying it to me, her husband -- as if *I* ever overreact. Cha right).
2. She just ignores guys like this. Doesn't answer them. Imagines most women are like her in that regard.
3. Does recall one or two other women in groups we've belonged to that seemed to like the attention. I remembered their names; she did not.
4. Guys who post they need proof seem to attract fake profiles. (Hey... kinda makes sense! Explained below.)
5. Main insight? It's a doozy:
"Guys like that come online looking for 'real women' because they're not meeting real women in real life. Kind of a red flag, if women in real life are avoiding them."
Never bothered her, though. She had never belonged to the groups for the chance to meet up with "unlucky men." Their profiles and their postings had nothing in them to interest her. She ignored them all together.
She only ever interacted with male members who, like her, were enjoying the benefits of belonging to an online community. In her opinion, guys like Curious78 should probably expect to be as unsuccessful hooking up with real women *here* as they were with real women *out there*.
Last thing, though, is from me again, not her. My suggestion to other guys hoping to meet a suitable heterosexual zoo companion is to be more like Pillar, maybe? He doesn't come here with demands that our XX members give him documented chromosomal proof of their biological female authenticity. He just takes part in the community, learns who people are and engages with them. Who is who or into what, that shakes out in time.
I'm guessing most of that is just that he's a decent guy, kind of civilized, you know. Upstanding. (*waves arms at women members, gestures toward Pillar*... Hey, dude -- wingman, right here, buddy.
)Learn the person first. So many, many members here are actually worth interacting with, regardless of gender or sexual preferences or backgrounds. AND YES, a good many of them are indeed "female-assigned-at-birth" folks who will drop the "gender wall" to openly discuss their opinions and their sexuality with anyone who's honestly interested in them.
Poor form to demand first to know their cup size or whether they have ovaries:
"Um, no offense, but just to make sure you're not a complete waste of my time, I'm going to need to see your uterus."
(Waits while MD inspects uterus. Then gets second opinion. Twice confirmed, yet still hedging. "Might be a fake woman still. Could be an implant. So hard to tell.")
If the member *was* born with ovaries instead of testicles, let them volunteer that information to you. Let your trust have time to build up. Don't demand proof of that up front.
You're in Zooville. You're already in the right place to encounter such a person. Let it happen. This isn't a fast-food drive-up lane where you get to order what you want, hold the pickles, hold the testes. It's have a seat, peruse the menu while I get you a drink.
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Who havent fapped in here? But some people are just here for that and not for the community.. Others are here to argue as you see. As i already stated my primary mission here is to meet and talk to new people ?Around 80 percent are here to fap, and on occasion that includes me. But I'm actually here for the community also - I enjoy beast sex and other people's experiences, even without the fapping. Also love the stories, chatting sometimes, and just being on here.
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You forgot cumshot..
It = you.... was a typing error.
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Hey if you want to argue patronising and calling people names as kid or whatever you allready lost. Get out of my thread and make your own if you cant act like and adult.
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Uhh i hit a soft spot there.. I think i can write whatever i want as long as its within the rules in here.. If you cant deal with it and a question then why not leave this thread and move on ?
UR20Z
Dumpster Diver
Sorry, chump, but I don't take orders from the likes of you. Keep running your mouth with bullshit, keep seeing me calling you out on it. Don't like that? Simple solution: Stop talking bullshit. Real easy.
SatyrNymph
Tourist
I forgot nothing, pal ?
Whoa buddy, chill. They're just saying you can't be so demanding and be like "Prove you're a woman to me!" TBH it's weird and creepy! Not to mention it makes you come across as untrustworthy.
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BlueBeard
Guest
Not to mention, there's no way to do it.
He mentioned having a woman hold a sign up next to her naked boobs, right?
- Some fakes steal photos from the Web. Sure. That's lame. They always get busted. The proposed "fix" is to have her holding a sign with "her" screen name. Well, that proves nothing. Some men ask their wife/gf to pose with a sign so he can use her persona. (Shit, if *I* wanted to, my wife would. She'd laugh about it and do it for me, no problem. And I can't be the only husband with a kinky wife in here.) You want video? Lots of the video I've seen was clearly taken by the husband, not the wife. Which one of them posted it using the "real woman" profile? The pictures and videos prove nothing. We have no WAY to know that "she" even realizes her photo and video were posted (and downloaded and disseminated throughout the Web. Which is another reason people here don't like to verify).
- And then, damn boy, watch what you're asking for. Seems like you're also saying flat-chested zoo women don't count? (You asshole. Boobs don't make a woman. One more suggestion like this, and we'll revoke your manhood. You're making us XY types look bad).
- Plus, you all know, right, that m2f trans women on hormones often have beautiful, natural, gorgeous boobs? (we know a couple and it gives "firsthand knowledge" a certain, racey edge when I tell you how I know they're real boobs, not silicone). And how can you tell XY augmented boobs from XX augmented boobs anyway? So, are YOU going to be the one to tell t-gurls they're not women? (There will be some women who agree with you, but you know what? I'm going to stand way, WAY back here down the hallway... no huh uh, instead I mean, the parking lot, ... parking lot across the street, when you drop *that* grenade in here).
Verification schemes don't work.
Look, I've been a mod on a couple different sites, and a little, hidden KiK one just for zoos. You came in the main room we used as an application room, and if you passed verification you were allowed into our hidden room. We had to limit the available memberships (cap in KiK is 50) so membership would be balanced M:F, not all male. We verified new member candidates to fill seats as they opened via live video chats placed to a mod. As a mod, I was watching this one "woman's" application who opted to flash her breasts at me as we were talking (not required, but some women applicants have no problem with that, and really *want* to verify that way, or more -- full nudity. That was not required, but, hey, w/e). Suddenly it occurred to me that the camera (iPhone or whatever) shooting her wasn't in *her* hand and wasn't on a stand. It was moving a little bit. So I stopped her interview to ask, "Um, who's holding the camera?" She was quiet. "Who's in the room there with you?"
The gal stopped, looked beyond the lens (obviously looking to the person holding it), waiting to be told what to say. I said, "Show me who's holding the camera."
*click* End of chat.
Dude. Any scheme you come up with to "verify" someone, there will be a man who rises to the challenge: says, "I can beat the system." You'd think it would turn them away. But naw. See, if they *beat* your system of verification, they just gained additional credibility they couldn't have *without* a verification system.
That's it, bottom line. Be careful what you ask for. The verification schemes don't weed out fakes if they get gamed. They do the opposite, giving fake profiles credibility they could *only* get through a verification system. It's a great big hassle that undermines the "benefit" guys like Curious78 hoped to gain. He's deluding himself, bolstering an illusion.
He'd be *much* better off just taking the time to know the people he was chatting with, without "proof" of who they are. I think it's *much* more reliable than an upfront verification device.
That's why I agree with ZTHorse's decision and explanation of Zooville policy from the other thread -- ground we're just rehashing here. The best way to "verify" someone is getting to know them, letting the relationship with them build.
I'm pretty positive I've made a couple good female zoo friends here. If not? Wow. Good job! (But doesn't really matter. No discussion I've been in outside this one really was all that gender-critical.)
Say, that's another thing. What is it you need to talk about that *is* so gender critical, anyway?
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Guilty as charged!
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Joelus88
Guest
I'm a woman!! Honest God, 100% bonafide lady ?
Hmm, oh my, that's a wonderful penis you have there, madam!
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Joelus88
Guest
I think you mean wonderful oversized clitoris, pillar lol
SatyrNymph
Tourist
As an adult, I don't feel the need to make newly connected acquaintances uneasy by asking them to "prove" their gender ... I'm just imagining taking a picture of myself, holding a whateverthefuck you think should be held so that YOU are convinced of my gender ... What am I talking about, no I'm not, because it would never, ever, ever happen.
Who the fuck are you, why should anyone, what have you personally done to compel anyone to do things for you?
Has having a penis given you the idea that you are entitled to shit?
Rhetorical question because clearly it has.
SatyrNymph
Tourist
It seems that others having opinions on a question YOU posed on a public forum, is considered arguing to you ?
If you don't want challenging conversation, don't write asinine tripe ?? Simples.
As you may or may not have noticed, I don't insert myself into threads generally, but your hot take on the whole "people should prove their gender" issue really pissed me off.
We are, each of us, fully formed human beans with multi faceted personalities and all you wanna know is, do you have a dick ?
Long way of saying, I don't come here to argue, but your bullshit was enough to get me involved.
You seem to be missing the glaringly obvious fact that YOU are the common asshole denominator in this whole thing. Maybe a bit of self reflection would be good.
passerby1177
BANNED
OP you should stop fighting windmills in here. There was once a guy who outed KnottyMilf for posting pics of other girls' asses as they were her own, while also going as far as linking where every ass pic was coming from.
What ensued: Knottymilf, even with startling evidence shoved in front of her bold mug, cringefuly stated that it was her pics and someone was reposting them (they all did 3-4 years before her, makes volumes of sense, yup!) and the mods banned the guy instead of her.
But it was only because of that episode that KnottyMilf bothered to submit verification. Turns out the boobs ones were her actual self, while the ass ones were, in fact, shamelessly recycled from other sites. Was a case of low self-esteem and not of catfishing, in short.
What ensued: Knottymilf, even with startling evidence shoved in front of her bold mug, cringefuly stated that it was her pics and someone was reposting them (they all did 3-4 years before her, makes volumes of sense, yup!) and the mods banned the guy instead of her.
But it was only because of that episode that KnottyMilf bothered to submit verification. Turns out the boobs ones were her actual self, while the ass ones were, in fact, shamelessly recycled from other sites. Was a case of low self-esteem and not of catfishing, in short.
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