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How did zoos meet before the internet?

Bigpaws_Bear said:
Nope, I received calls from all over the USA, once word got around that the BBS existed. the hard part was making sure that news that we existed got out into the wild.
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Are you willing to write a bit about that history? I've made a post here where I'm trying to collect some stories from people who've been around. I'm going to be adding a bunch of history from various sources to our wiki.
 
Been to Mexico enough to see some wild west stuff..especially border towns. Did I see a donkey show in a bar..no can't say I did. But saw enough other things to believe it happened. Plus enough of my military buddies who were older than me swore they saw it. But it doesn't really matter since those areas were cleaned up and debauchery is no longer the prime attraction. :gsd_happysmile:
 
Yeah....like the Cub Scouts, pardner....one lies, the others swear to it....makes it more likely their own stretchers will get bought.

Funny....for sixty years, I've been trying to find a believable eyewitness to such a show. Granted, they had shows with seriously large-cocked, usually Black, men appearing to rape virgins onstage, both in Havana, and Tijuana and possibly elsewhere. Those are documented. But I've never heard of anyone who could verify a beasty show. I don't buy it for several reasons: one) A venue presenting such a show would have to fork over a GREAT deal of protection money, so the admittance would be damned high. Las Avenidas Revolucion and Constitucion are the Heart of Border Tijuana....every one of the joints, whatever they sell, souvenirs, food, booze, girls, ALL are owned by ONE man. Two) Getting caught at one of these shows would be signing a virtual social death-warrant. You'd NEVER live it down. That leads to possible extortion and Blackmail. Something like that isn't unknown here. Across the Border you're a gringo, and deserve anything you may get. Three) Have you checked HERE for people willing to take a chance like this? The percentage of those with enough guts is LOW, and THESE jokers actually have a serious interest in seeing some Chiquita get her twat split by a burro with zebra stripes.
Nope....not buying that one at all...
 
Bigpaws_Bear said:
I can answer this. Because I ran a Zoo Specific Bulletin Board system for about a decade, long before ARPNET became the internet. even before FIDONET became a thing. back in the days of 150 to 300 Baud modems and Acoustic coupler's
View attachment 107874 these things. (note it's not a push button phone)

I ran Commodore 64 Based file & messaging system for folks like us.
it took a while to get going, but word of mouth advertising was the best way the word out, but you could also post on other BBS systems of your existence.
when it began it was a single phone number for a single incoming line. and I had to manually listen for the tone before putting the handset in the acoustic coupler, to make the data connection.

Skip ahead 5 years...

Now I am running a Commodore Amiga 1000, Data Speeds are now pushing 4800 to 9600 Baud and U.S.Robotics Courier Modems were all the Rage,
I and an electrical engineering student, designed and built a Multi Serial/parallel/MIDI interface for the Amiga. it could supply Data connections for 8 Modems at a time. so I upgraded to 8 incoming phone lines to handle my ever growing user base. (yes I am a Patent Owner).

Since I was a Broke ass kid like all the rest of the folks I knew, I ran the system on a "Donation" basis (give if you are able) and My users were generous enough that it cost me basically NOTHING monthly to run the system. I had between 80-100 users total, and THEY paid to keep it alive.
Then came FIDONET, and IBM based hardware/software now had a way to automate message sharing between BBS systems.
This spelled the end of My now outdated system, no matter how many incoming lines I had.
4 short years Later, the Public Internet was birthed. that was the Beginning of the end of ALL Bulletin Board systems who used direct dial technology.

So yeah we used to communicate, but it was far more difficult back in the old days.
it was far more hazardous too as Old analog lines were so very easily traced, since it came straight to your house.

Be thankful for all this wonderful new high speed communications and wireless delivery systems.
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You always have something amazing or interesting to add! The information and stories. 150 to 300 baud caught me. Semi trucks are now running a 350k and a 500,000 baud speed for the data links for the onboard "computers". Just amazing how things have advanced.
 
DanChrist said:
More than likely Zoos met at swingers parties. There used to be state by state magazines where swingers would post ads of themselves. I knew a coworker who was connected to a swinger group. You could find the magazines in porn shops.
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Being someone who used swingers magazines back during their heyday, there were clues and outright solicitations in some ads. Phrases like "Nothing is taboo", "We are unshockable", "Pet friendly" and photos including a dog or horse were clues. Some magazines had uncensored ads and ads read like ZV personals; "Seeking knot", "K9 breeding" and "Horseplay" with a nude woman standing next to a fully stretched-out stallion come to mind.

That ended in the mid 1980s, however and the beastiality references were largely eliminated. The swingers magazine ads after then were like Craigslist personals with occasional references like "knotty girl" but not much more. Then the internet arrived and online swingers ads took off with beastiality references like a decade or more before in print.
 
I think the question originally posed wss "BEFORE the internet." Funny how many answers came from everything but. History apparently DOES start two days before we're born. Penthouse Forum and Hustler both ran print ads, along with Cheri, Club International( with OLIVIA art too....yum), and some others in the States. K9 duke was there...so was I. Theres a few others here, as well....you kidz don't have a clue, do you? You missed a lot....some of it was fun.
 
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Pageant_Mom said:
There were three or four well-known clubs in Montreal where live shows took place. K9 was occasionally on the menu. In the aftermath of the clean-up following the biker wars 15 years or so ago, all of them were raided and closed down.
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Are you from Montreal ? I am from Quebec
 
Before the internet I did not know anything about what a zoo was and for the most part thought I was the only weirdo who loved horses like I do at least until I found some kink video add with horses in some porn magazine...
 
DanChrist said:
No, it wasn't. No offense but every swinger I have ever met was an unattractive person. It was one of those situations where if your spouse was that unattractive that you would want to fuck somebody else's wife too. If you see a guy with a hot wife then he is usually not going to swap, and he usually had a good job, hence, how he got the hot wife. I also noticed that there were a lot of diseases starting to spread in the swinger scene by the mid-90s. Also, you could not get in unless you had a girlfriend or wife. Plus, someone had to vouch for you. You're not missing anything.
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Bigpaws_Bear said:
I can answer this. Because I ran a Zoo Specific Bulletin Board system for about a decade, long before ARPNET became the internet. even before FIDONET became a thing. back in the days of 150 to 300 Baud modems and Acoustic coupler's
View attachment 107874 these things. (note it's not a push button phone)

I ran Commodore 64 Based file & messaging system for folks like us.
it took a while to get going, but word of mouth advertising was the best way the word out, but you could also post on other BBS systems of your existence.
when it began it was a single phone number for a single incoming line. and I had to manually listen for the tone before putting the handset in the acoustic coupler, to make the data connection.

Skip ahead 5 years...

Now I am running a Commodore Amiga 1000, Data Speeds are now pushing 4800 to 9600 Baud and U.S.Robotics Courier Modems were all the Rage,
I and an electrical engineering student, designed and built a Multi Serial/parallel/MIDI interface for the Amiga. it could supply Data connections for 8 Modems at a time. so I upgraded to 8 incoming phone lines to handle my ever growing user base. (yes I am a Patent Owner).

Since I was a Broke ass kid like all the rest of the folks I knew, I ran the system on a "Donation" basis (give if you are able) and My users were generous enough that it cost me basically NOTHING monthly to run the system. I had between 80-100 users total, and THEY paid to keep it alive.
Then came FIDONET, and IBM based hardware/software now had a way to automate message sharing between BBS systems.
This spelled the end of My now outdated system, no matter how many incoming lines I had.
4 short years Later, the Public Internet was birthed. that was the Beginning of the end of ALL Bulletin Board systems who used direct dial technology.

So yeah we used to communicate, but it was far more difficult back in the old days.
it was far more hazardous too as Old analog lines were so very easily traced, since it came straight to your house.

Be thankful for all this wonderful new high speed communications and wireless delivery systems.
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Fascinating!! Sounds like your own version of Matthew Broderick in War Games!? I remember the old Compuserve/Prodigy. My first computer exposure to the subject was via BBS....back when you had to insert a boot disk. Ahhh, I do miss the old times.
 
Not pre Internet, but early, early internet days, I owned a dog. I walked that dog a LOT. It took me YEARS to even consider trying the internet. Luckily, I've always traveled at least a little for work, so I had many different places to walk that dog. Or, I should say dogs, since I've had several of them over the years. It has always been a source of great amusement to me, all the guys crying about not being able to find k9 girls. And, my first thought is ALWAYS, do you even own a dog? Do you go fishing without bait? Duh. Get a dog. Then get somewhere where women will SEE the damn dog. Like, you know why guys always joke about borrowing a niece or nephew baby right? Because bitches LOVE babies. Full Stop.

Dogs are a close second. Or, more correctly, cute or curious pets in general. Dogs get fucking TONS of female attention. Now, for the slower ones out there, that doesn't mean interest in your dog means she wants to fuck the dog, use your big head to do the thinking. Some of them DO want to fuck the dog. You just need to learn the cues that tell you that. Once you've cracked that code, it's very very easy to spot the potential candidates. Like understanding any secret language really. Ever wonder how Doms find subs or subs find Doms? Same exact thing. Cues.
 
Dogdaddy69 said:
Not pre Internet, but early, early internet days, I owned a dog. I walked that dog a LOT. It took me YEARS to even consider trying the internet. Luckily, I've always traveled at least a little for work, so I had many different places to walk that dog. Or, I should say dogs, since I've had several of them over the years. It has always been a source of great amusement to me, all the guys crying about not being able to find k9 girls. And, my first thought is ALWAYS, do you even own a dog? Do you go fishing without bait? Duh. Get a dog. Then get somewhere where women will SEE the damn dog. Like, you know why guys always joke about borrowing a niece or nephew baby right? Because bitches LOVE babies. Full Stop.

Dogs are a close second. Or, more correctly, cute or curious pets in general. Dogs get fucking TONS of female attention. Now, for the slower ones out there, that doesn't mean interest in your dog means she wants to fuck the dog, use your big head to do the thinking. Some of them DO want to fuck the dog. You just need to learn the cues that tell you that. Once you've cracked that code, it's very very easy to spot the potential candidates. Like understanding any secret language really. Ever wonder how Doms find subs or subs find Doms? Same exact thing. Cues.
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How do subs find doms? Asking for a friend..
 
Zethin said:
How do subs find doms? Asking for a friend..
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By each person recognizing character traits in each other that they find appealing. Same way people who like blonds meet blonds. Except that hair color is visual and therefor a lot easier to pick up immediately. Which, of course is the original point I was making really, that it isn't complicated, don't make it harder than it is. I'd recommend detailing to yourself a set of behaviors, characteristics, types of responses, etc that you identify as things you find appealing and zero in on those things.
 
Accidental back in 1975 - yeah I'm an old bastard now. Worked with a woman, became friends, then somehow fuck buddies. She told me about her desires and what she was doing with her dog one night. I'm accepting of most everything, plus I had fantasizes of zoo and watched some early films that came from Europe. She introduced me to really having a zoo relationship. Thank you "J" !!!
Next girl knew "J" and was just starting out on a zoo lifestyle. By the time we broke up, it was a full zoo relationship as well.

1990's re-entered the scene when we had BBS to chat with other zoo's. Had gotten together with a woman I knew when we were both like 21 but never got together sexually, just really good friends. I'm widowed and she's divorced. She was zoo curious, I helped her become zoo active. As a couple it was easier to make friends on the Bulletin Boards with other couples. We got together with 2 other couples during out time together, but kept it really secret obviously.

Was on BF occasionally and new to here. Not looking for another relationship now. Just like to talk with people that understand the life and attraction to zoo.
 
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