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How did zoos meet before the internet?

More than likely Zoos met at swingers parties. There used to be state by state magazines where swingers would post ads of themselves. I knew a coworker who was connected to a swinger group. You could find the magazines in porn shops.
 
DannyWotan said:
More than likely Zoos met at swingers parties. There used to be state by state magazines where swingers would post ads of themselves. I knew a coworker who was connected to a swinger group. You could find the magazines in porn shops.
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Wow that sounds like a better world
 
ManimalD said:
Wow that sounds like a better world
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No, it wasn't. No offense but every swinger I have ever met was an unattractive person. It was one of those situations where if your spouse was that unattractive that you would want to fuck somebody else's wife too. If you see a guy with a hot wife then he is usually not going to swap, and he usually had a good job, hence, how he got the hot wife. I also noticed that there were a lot of diseases starting to spread in the swinger scene by the mid-90s. Also, you could not get in unless you had a girlfriend or wife. Plus, someone had to vouch for you. You're not missing anything.
 
VHS tapes used to be circulated in some manner, so I would assume there were zoo groups that created and traded those tapes. It used to also be a "Scene" in Denmark and other EU countries where you could hook up with zoo's at sex clubs and brothels and shit.
 
ZooDogLover320 said:
VHS tapes used to be circulated in some manner, so I would assume there were zoo groups that created and traded those tapes. It used to also be a "Scene" in Denmark and other EU countries where you could hook up with zoo's at sex clubs and brothels and shit.
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The Netherlands was central to just about all bestiality porn being made. If memory serves me correctly, it was in 2007 that bestiality and bestiality film production was outlawed; this singlehandedly brought the beast porn industry to a screeching halt. Book & Film International disappeared overnight. Now, most beast porn comes from Brazil. Team Russia is doing great stuff but bestiality is illegal in Russia so if those get caught they are going to be doing some serious time.
 
Well one of the components was that it was not illegal in places it is now but I think it probably just did not happen as much. I have heard that some wore symbols signifying they were but I suspect it was more of you suspect someone and figure out how to tell if they were and if you could trust them. I knew and helped one farmer who I am almost certain was but we just has an unspoken understanding because neither of us were willing to actually say it and I suspect there was a fair amount of that to.
 
DannyWotan said:
Do you know the name of any such magazines?
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West coast swingers. a couple other swinger mags from other parts of the country, farm news and one called midwest farmers get together.

This was just one person. Most of the others I know who did it have either died, or drifted out of contact.
 
DannyWotan said:
No, it wasn't. No offense but every swinger I have ever met was an unattractive person. It was one of those situations where if your spouse was that unattractive that you would want to fuck somebody else's wife too. If you see a guy with a hot wife then he is usually not going to swap, and he usually had a good job, hence, how he got the hot wife. I also noticed that there were a lot of diseases starting to spread in the swinger scene by the mid-90s. Also, you could not get in unless you had a girlfriend or wife. Plus, someone had to vouch for you. You're not missing anything.
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I did some swinging in 2012-2014. It does sound like a different world
 
DannyWotan said:
No, it wasn't. No offense but every swinger I have ever met was an unattractive person. It was one of those situations where if your spouse was that unattractive that you would want to fuck somebody else's wife too. If you see a guy with a hot wife then he is usually not going to swap, and he usually had a good job, hence, how he got the hot wife. I also noticed that there were a lot of diseases starting to spread in the swinger scene by the mid-90s. Also, you could not get in unless you had a girlfriend or wife. Plus, someone had to vouch for you. You're not missing anything.
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This is def not the scene these days. Sure there's a bunch of people who aren't that attractive. But like everything else you just need the right group. Or scene where we live is full of super attractive couples. However I've never once heard any beast talk
 
In general, They DIDN'T. Swinger mags and classified ads were never a viable way to meet people. What you take for granted today didn't exist 60 years ago. Anything that referenced our little hobby was very much relegated to the stacks in a library, bus station book racks, and accident, fortuitous or no. Any reassurance of one's sanity had to come from inside. There were some "literature " sources, such as Boccaccio, and Greek Mythology, and there were Abnormal Psychology books, and Sex Studies such as Kraft Ebbing, and Kinsey, but even Masters And Johnson had yet to publish. Shere Hite and Nancy Friday are both younger than some members here.
Meet up? Yeah....with a Cop, a Judge, and a commitment to the nearest Nut-College.
You younger folk should have a little more respect for, and contact with your elders. They hold your history.
 
I can answer this. Because I ran a Zoo Specific Bulletin Board system for about a decade, long before ARPNET became the internet. even before FIDONET became a thing. back in the days of 150 to 300 Baud modems and Acoustic coupler's
images.jpg these things. (note it's not a push button phone)

I ran Commodore 64 Based file & messaging system for folks like us.
it took a while to get going, but word of mouth advertising was the best way the word out, but you could also post on other BBS systems of your existence.
when it began it was a single phone number for a single incoming line. and I had to manually listen for the tone before putting the handset in the acoustic coupler, to make the data connection.

Skip ahead 5 years...

Now I am running a Commodore Amiga 1000, Data Speeds are now pushing 4800 to 9600 Baud and U.S.Robotics Courier Modems were all the Rage,
I and an electrical engineering student, designed and built a Multi Serial/parallel/MIDI interface for the Amiga. it could supply Data connections for 8 Modems at a time. so I upgraded to 8 incoming phone lines to handle my ever growing user base. (yes I am a Patent Owner).

Since I was a Broke ass kid like all the rest of the folks I knew, I ran the system on a "Donation" basis (give if you are able) and My users were generous enough that it cost me basically NOTHING monthly to run the system. I had between 80-100 users total, and THEY paid to keep it alive.
Then came FIDONET, and IBM based hardware/software now had a way to automate message sharing between BBS systems.
This spelled the end of My now outdated system, no matter how many incoming lines I had.
4 short years Later, the Public Internet was birthed. that was the Beginning of the end of ALL Bulletin Board systems who used direct dial technology.

So yeah we used to communicate, but it was far more difficult back in the old days.
it was far more hazardous too as Old analog lines were so very easily traced, since it came straight to your house.

Be thankful for all this wonderful new high speed communications and wireless delivery systems.
 
DannyWotan said:
Do you know the name of any such magazines?
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SCREW, Hustler and Penthouse both published swinger lists as quarterly supplements or in the back pages. Certain stroke book publishers added swing ads to the backpages of their offerings. If you're looking, try Ebay's adult stuff, or TripleX books for old adult magazines. Many published post-1968 carried such ads. Look around.
 
Bigpaws_Bear said:
I can answer this. Because I ran a Zoo Specific Bulletin Board system for about a decade, long before ARPNET became the internet. even before FIDONET became a thing. back in the days of 150 to 300 Baud modems and Acoustic coupler's
View attachment 107874 these things. (note it's not a push button phone)

I ran Commodore 64 Based file & messaging system for folks like us.
it took a while to get going, but word of mouth advertising was the best way the word out, but you could also post on other BBS systems of your existence.
when it began it was a single phone number for a single incoming line. and I had to manually listen for the tone before putting the handset in the acoustic coupler, to make the data connection.

Skip ahead 5 years...

Now I am running a Commodore Amiga 1000, Data Speeds are now pushing 4800 to 9600 Baud and U.S.Robotics Courier Modems were all the Rage,
I and an electrical engineering student, designed and built a Multi Serial/parallel/MIDI interface for the Amiga. it could supply Data connections for 8 Modems at a time. so I upgraded to 8 incoming phone lines to handle my ever growing user base. (yes I am a Patent Owner).

Since I was a Broke ass kid like all the rest of the folks I knew, I ran the system on a "Donation" basis (give if you are able) and My users were generous enough that it cost me basically NOTHING monthly to run the system. I had between 80-100 users total, and THEY paid to keep it alive.
Then came FIDONET, and IBM based hardware/software now had a way to automate message sharing between BBS systems.
This spelled the end of My now outdated system, no matter how many incoming lines I had.
4 short years Later, the Public Internet was birthed. that was the Beginning of the end of ALL Bulletin Board systems who used direct dial technology.

So yeah we used to communicate, but it was far more difficult back in the old days.
it was far more hazardous too as Old analog lines were so very easily traced, since it came straight to your house.

Be thankful for all this wonderful new high speed communications and wireless delivery systems.
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I was on Fidonet for a while and still remember the BBS days, however BBS were on their last legs when was around
 
Oh gosh. Lol

When I was a kid I lived on a large horse farm. I had a riding horse and I was a very inquisitive kid. I would see my horse drop his penis and was fascinated. I used to watch him breed the mates and pleasure myself. While riding him I had many orgasm on that saddle. I would often watch when he was put out to breed the mates and just run my pussy. I told my friend about it and we both ended up watching the horses. I took her riding with me and I couldn't help but rub my pussy on the saddle. She was sitting right behind me and did the same. She ended up holding into me and basically grinding out an orgasm while holding onto my waste. We did that every day all spring.
 
GreyKnot said:
Oh gosh. Lol

When I was a kid I lived on a large horse farm. I had a riding horse and I was a very inquisitive kid. I would see my horse drop his penis and was fascinated. I used to watch him breed the mates and pleasure myself. While riding him I had many orgasm on that saddle. I would often watch when he was put out to breed the mates and just run my pussy. I told my friend about it and we both ended up watching the horses. I took her riding with me and I couldn't help but rub my pussy on the saddle. She was sitting right behind me and did the same. She ended up holding into me and basically grinding out an orgasm while holding onto my waste. We did that every day all spring.
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That's a fun bonding experience
 
Bigpaws_Bear said:
I can answer this. Because I ran a Zoo Specific Bulletin Board system for about a decade, long before ARPNET became the internet. even before FIDONET became a thing. back in the days of 150 to 300 Baud modems and Acoustic couplers.
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Was it mostly local? Did you have contact with other such groups? I don't think this kind of history has been preserved anywhere, so I'd really like to get some of these stories on our wiki.
 
DogMichael said:
Was it mostly local? Did you have contact with other such groups? I don't think this kind of history has been preserved anywhere, so I'd really like to get some of these stories on our wiki.
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Nope, I received calls from all over the USA, once word got around that the BBS existed. the hard part was making sure that news that we existed got out into the wild. to do this I would contact other BBS systems & drop a note/advert with the Telephone #. momentum was very slow at first, it took over a year before we started to get "clientele" who would call on a regular basis. Regular usually meaning 1-2 times a month, since these were Toll Calls, and subject to Long distance charges to the caller. BUT we also got some local callers, and hackers who had found us using a tool called a "War Dialer" which one would put a Range of telephone Prefix's into & let the computer dial huge lists of numbers "looking" for other computers with Modems attached.

Being a "BBS systems operator" or (sysop) was very much a Novelty.
Sometimes a small group of system operators would gather, because we (back then) were sort of an Elite group. Very few "Users" would attend because mostly we were a group of Geeky social outcasts who had enough computer knowledge to be "Interesting" to one another, we would often trade files or sometimes even hardware to help one another along.
I remember I was one of the Younger system operators, and the others had 15 to 20 year of age beyond my own. Most were former Telephone engineers, or had other jobs in the blossoming computer industry.
 
Bigpaws_Bear said:
I can answer this. Because I ran a Zoo Specific Bulletin Board system for about a decade, long before ARPNET became the internet. even before FIDONET became a thing. back in the days of 150 to 300 Baud modems and Acoustic coupler's
View attachment 107874 these things. (note it's not a push button phone)

I ran Commodore 64 Based file & messaging system for folks like us.
it took a while to get going, but word of mouth advertising was the best way the word out, but you could also post on other BBS systems of your existence.
when it began it was a single phone number for a single incoming line. and I had to manually listen for the tone before putting the handset in the acoustic coupler, to make the data connection.

Skip ahead 5 years...

Now I am running a Commodore Amiga 1000, Data Speeds are now pushing 4800 to 9600 Baud and U.S.Robotics Courier Modems were all the Rage,
I and an electrical engineering student, designed and built a Multi Serial/parallel/MIDI interface for the Amiga. it could supply Data connections for 8 Modems at a time. so I upgraded to 8 incoming phone lines to handle my ever growing user base. (yes I am a Patent Owner).

Since I was a Broke ass kid like all the rest of the folks I knew, I ran the system on a "Donation" basis (give if you are able) and My users were generous enough that it cost me basically NOTHING monthly to run the system. I had between 80-100 users total, and THEY paid to keep it alive.
Then came FIDONET, and IBM based hardware/software now had a way to automate message sharing between BBS systems.
This spelled the end of My now outdated system, no matter how many incoming lines I had.
4 short years Later, the Public Internet was birthed. that was the Beginning of the end of ALL Bulletin Board systems who used direct dial technology.

So yeah we used to communicate, but it was far more difficult back in the old days.
it was far more hazardous too as Old analog lines were so very easily traced, since it came straight to your house.

Be thankful for all this wonderful new high speed communications and wireless delivery systems.
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You sir, are a legend. Honestly, just to hold first hand knowledge of such remarkable undocumented nuggets of history. You’re a pioneer and no one ever told the story.
 
So, could you potentially move to Brazil and make zoo porn? What about Japan??

Also, what if team russia, just isnt in actually russia lol
 
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